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Come on... Game does not have to be completely perfect, just get it out by March!
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From what I have seen when they announced the delay to the game now (via DD's) I will happily wait.
 
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From what I have seen when they announced the delay to the game now (via DD's) I will happily wait.
While i will wait for game to be released in good state, I am not happy about all those delays.

Also given all the delays, that HoI4 suffered so far, I expect game with no gamebreaking issues and not significant amount of bugs.
 
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While i will wait for game to be released in good state, I am not happy about all those delays.

Also given all the delays, that HoI4 suffered so far, I expect game with no gamebreaking issues and not significant amount of bugs.

I am not happy either concerning the delays. But i'd rather habe hoi4 later, than performance issues and lags in 1942/1943
 
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I would rather have game released sooner, with some performance optimalizations done a few weeks later, than have the whole game delayed.

Then when the game comes out and it crashes and lags constantly, you would be the first one to come to the forums to complain about it.
 
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Then when the game comes out and it crashes and lags constantly, you would be the first one to come to the forums to complain about it.
1. I didnt say anything about crashes

2. I would be OK with performance seen in recent ingame videos, especially since I have more powerful PC, than what was used in WWWs.

3. I would rather play HoI4 at speed 3 in March 2016, rather than speed 4 in September 2016.....
 
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Then when the game comes out and it crashes and lags constantly, you would be the first one to come to the forums to complain about it.

How do you know that?
 
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1. I didnt say anything about crashes

2. I would be OK with performance seen in recent ingame videos, especially since I have more powerful PC, than what was used in WWWs.

3. I would rather play HoI4 at speed 3 in March 2016, rather than speed 4 in September 2016.....

Performance testing is not only about the speed of a software. Stability is also a part of it. It doesn't matter how strong of a computer you have if the software it's unoptimized for it.
How do you know that?

I was meaning it in an non literal way.
 
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Performance testing is not only about the speed of a software. Stability is also a part of it. It doesn't matter how strong of a computer you have the software it's unoptimized for it.


I was meaning it in an allegorical way.
1. Performace optimalization =/= general QA testing. There is a vast difference, between delaying some performance optimalizations and fixing stability/bugs.

2. Devs already said, that HoI4 laredy is very stable.
 

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1. Performace optimalization =/= general QA testing. There is a vast difference, between delaying some performance optimalizations and fixing stability/bugs..

You were the one who said:
I would rather have game released sooner, with some performance optimalizations done a few weeks later, than have the whole game delayed.
QA aren't going to accept it until the performance testing is done.
 

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Yes and I dont see any reason for QA delay the game over few % performance, compared to current state, which seems to work without problems (performance wise).

But the QA team thinks otherwise.
They rejected the last beta because the performance was bad. (and it didn't have a tutorial, but that's an other matter)
 
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