Hoi4 first impressions (from the videos)

[Zaku]

Guys, seriously just let the troll thread die. Don't argue.
OP is either a 12 yo. or a manchild trying to rile us up.

 

[panzerzombie]

Your opinion - while its good you have it - sounds like a shot from the hip, a hasty and superficial point of view....

and now you can call me a fanboy^^

 

[Evan05]

The game has been announced for three years now, and they have been doing World War Wednesday for months, and this is the first time you've noticed the game and giving your impression on it?

You're a bit late.

 

[Mac Lazer]

Judging from all the positive feedback that Paradox has received regarding this game, I would hardly call this a "disaster".

 

[LoLLarN]

Judging from all the positive feedback that Paradox has received regarding this game, I would hardly call this a "disaster".

Won't mean that you or I will like it.. if you have not played it. I have not so I can not say anything more than what I have seen and read.

 

[hypaspist]

The game has been announced for three years now, and they have been doing World War Wednesday for months, and this is the first time you've noticed the game and giving your impression on it?

You're a bit late.

been tracking it since first trailer, not every single day but still. i have been waiting to see a prolonged,realistic footage and these ww2 wednsdays are perfect to see how the game will mostly look. so far i am on the fence, but almost falling to the 'game is bs' camp. as i said in the main post, either those people are playing it totally wrong way (which is kinda hard to believe) or game is shit

 

[alp177]

Ok. There is no obligations that make you buy this game but as we all see the game is getting really developed since the first time we see at Gamescon and they are trying to improve the game. You should just be silent watcher and wait until the game is out. Otherwise people are thinking you as bored childish person waiting someone to argue about how the game suck. So please be more critical and also criticize more productive way like i dont like this this could change like that but anyway people can have different opinions as well

 

[hypaspist]

Ok. There is no obligations that make you buy this game but as we all see the game is getting really developed since the first time we see at Gamescon and they are trying to improve the game. You should just be silent watcher and wait until the game is out. Otherwise people are thinking you as bored childish person waiting someone to argue about how the game suck. So please be more critical and also criticize more productive way like i dont like this this could change like that but anyway people can have different opinions as well

instead of telling me what should i do, can u offer some arguments for "its not arcade" , i do not mind being wrong, i really wana be wrong on this

 

[alp177]

Ok first of all PDX released 2 good game as grand strategy EUIV and CKII recent years and since we played these games and like them. We could say this title also could be as good as them. Also after the last patch 3.03 for HOI3 it is also good game and we all contiune playing the game till HOI4 out. So what i wanna say is it is highly possible that you are wrong about this.

 

[grandad1982]

it looks like a fun,quality Boardgame for children

judging by the videos ive seen it will be a complete disaster, unless players who were playing have no idea what they are doing (all of them,even the new german guy ),then i'd change my mind

All i have seen was something thats like : " hey iamma eat my pizza now and while i do that i ll attack soviet union and UK and sweden and click the hell out of it, while eating pizza" , if thats how this game will look and play it ll be a disaster for anyone older than 16.

again, i hope i am wrong

and no , hoi4 cant be an average game, it must be Epic, i do not accept 71/100 , it must live up to the standards of Eu4/ck2 or even surpass them

Thanks for your patronising and rude opinions. Welcome to the exclusive club that is my ignore list.

 

[LoLLarN]

Thanks for your patronising and rude opinions. Welcome to the exclusive club that is my ignore list.

You are a smart person.. I have not yet used that ignore list.

 

[grandad1982]

You are a smart person.. I have not yet used that ignore list.

Is a fantastic thing. It's really improved my forum surfing

 

[Ragnar89]

Thanks for your patronising and rude opinions. Welcome to the exclusive club that is my ignore list.

This is the right answer.

 

[hypaspist]

you give 0 real arguments , all i get is "respectfully disagrees" and " troll" or " you are rude". well this is not your personal,luxurious safe space , gg. please delete account if actually hoi4 fails as a game and i am right (which i hope i am not ) , since you are so sure it isnt. you are exploding with confidence so much . gg
6 000 000 /10

 

[safe-keeper]

You are a smart person.. I have not yet used that ignore list.

It is a fantastic tool that has spared me much frustration, many pointless arguments, and probably quite a few infractions .

 

[panzerzombie]

you give 0 real arguments , all i get is "respectfully disagrees" and " troll" or " you are rude". well this is not your personal,luxurious safe space , gg. please delete account if actually hoi4 fails as a game and i am right (which i hope i am not ) , since you are so sure it isnt. you are exploding with confidence so much . gg
6 000 000 /10

Well your thread is deliberately or accidentally so unsophisticated " yadda yadda game is bs and stuff" that obviously most people here don´t bother to deliver "real" arguments....

 

[Bernard Black]

you give 0 real arguments , all i get is "respectfully disagrees" and " troll" or " you are rude". well this is not your personal,luxurious safe space , gg. please delete account if actually hoi4 fails as a game and i am right (which i hope i am not ) , since you are so sure it isnt. you are exploding with confidence so much . gg
6 000 000 /10

Since you laid out your arguments and your reasoning for your opinion in such a mature and extensive fashion, nobody can really refute what you say, its a shame isnt it.

I hope Had a Dad comes by soon

 

[hypaspist]

Since you laid out your arguments and your reasoning for your opinion in such a mature and extensive fashion, nobody can really refute what you say, its a shame isnt it.

I hope Had a Dad comes by soon

sure, my moral knight

 

[Evan05]

been tracking it since first trailer, not every single day but still. i have been waiting to see a prolonged,realistic footage and these ww2 wednsdays are perfect to see how the game will mostly look. so far i am on the fence, but almost falling to the 'game is bs' camp. as i said in the main post, either those people are playing it totally wrong way (which is kinda hard to believe) or game is shit

Your argument in the main post is vague, not really constructive, and made me confused. The game just officially entered beta a whopping four days ago. It's still under development, and one of the devs said the AI is one of the last things in game development to be properly implemented:

There are lots of stuff going on here. lets dive in:

• AI is still in development (this never stops and its usually the last feature to feel finished), even minor stuff that could take 10min to fix will kick the legs from under an AI and turn it from Guderian to braindead duck. This week we introduced a bug where AI would use most of its units for garrisons (even tank divisions) rather than on the frontline, making for easy picking (pretty sure this bug was in the WWW build). This is just how development is when it comes to AI and say germany can flip between world conquest and getting owned by poland over one days testing.

• This savegame is getting quite old now, this kind of stuff makes a big deal for AI development and it cant have planned for changes done. We are doing our best not to break the savegame during development each week, but it gets trickier and trickier as stuff changes last weeks update made thousands of airplanes disappear for the AI for example and I had to hand-edit it so it wouldnt crash

• Soviet got (From a bug because it takes quite a while these days) a Trotsky coup very early. This has some severe ramifications where their industry was reduced by 40% early on putting them way behind and I suspect they got lost and couldnt remove the penalty. Soviet also at this point I think is suffering from purging its officers and not having sorted that out yet, so AI is way behind player at this point.

• Daniel caught soviet by surprise, their troops in training and in bad shape and it was still 1940. This is a huge advantage for him being prepared for it.

• Daniel is probably the best HOI player at the office. If you think a 1500 hours player, who is doing a ton of microing, on a major nation should struggle against a beta AI you need to check your expectations because you will never be satisfied with AI performance in any game.

• As for plan complexity, Daniel is getting away with this because he is microing to make up for it and has much better industry than the soviet AI. This is basically the same as playing HOI3 and microing all your troops, or say play HOI3, put a theater objective on Moscow and just managing your industry (this usually lets me win in HOI3 on regular difficulty as theater AI will just push).

Basically, stuff is in development.

 

[hypaspist]

Your argument in the main post is vague, not really constructive, and made me confused. The game just officially entered beta a whopping four days ago. It's still under development, and one of the devs said the AI is one of the last things in game development to be properly implemented.

basically, more honest view is : " everything's done, we just need to polish it". base game concept remains,and i am talking about base game,core, the way it plays