HOI4 - Development Diary - September 9th 2016

[Meglok]

Incorporating the Enhanced Peace mod is fantastic news!

The stats regarding multiplayer are not surprising, it takes too many house rules now to play nicely with others and even then you still have to deal with all the bugs.

@podcat y'all keep plugging away, your work is appreciated. Sending you an old fashioned Alabama fly swatter to help squish the bugs

 

[Ytero99]

Interesting stats.

Pity that so few play MP, then again this is normal in a PDX game. Personally I pretty much only play MP.

A bit surprising that so few use NATO symbols. Must be all the new peeps.

I would love to play MP, but I don't think any of my friends would like this game, and I fucking suck, so I can't play with randoms.

 

[sturnado]

Well, HOI4 is going on the shelf until those MP improvements are patched in. I'm so sick of having to rehost 3+ times every MP game and SP is a joke even with advanced AI mods.

 

[Es57]

Sensible policy - have a nice weekend!

Indeed. The Stellaris and Ck2 teams should take a page from the HOI team's book and start doing the same...

Incorporating a mod in a patch would have to be the ultimate compliment for a modder. Congratulations!

Now the question is : will the modder be paid for it ? Because technically, he did the job of a dev...

 

[Sleight of Hand]

Now the question is : will the modder be paid for it ? Because technically, he did the job of a dev...

I demand $5 for the Permanent Revolution focus idea.

 

[Sonator]

12% of players use Nato counters (this jumped a whole percentage when Black ICE and August Storm mods released)

I believe with stackable counters and adding moving-direction-arrows for them, the percentage would be far greater.

 

[Sleight of Hand]

@podcat

I honestly think one of the reasons fewer people use NATO counters is that there aren't any extra division template icons, whereas there are for the Paradox icons. It would be great if you added some of your own.

Also, the extra NATO counters mod hasn't been updated since June and is outdated.

 

[rzymianin25]

save is compatibility?

 

[Sleight of Hand]

save is compatibility?

Wouldn't recommend it as they are adding new states.

 

[Sanny]

save is compatibility?

You're best not to, a lot of stuff will be changed, even if it is compatible there is no guarantee that things won't break down the line in your savegame.

 

[sturnado]

@podcat

I honestly think one of the reasons fewer people use NATO counters is that there aren't any extra division template icons, whereas there are for the Paradox icons. It would be great if you added some of your own.

Also, the extra NATO counters mod hasn't been updated since June and is outdated.

The extra NATO counters mod may be listed as "outdated" in your mod launcher, however it is working fine.

 

[Havebeard]

I demand $5 for the Permanent Revolution focus idea.

Did that one before we saw your stuff ;o)

 

[Gamer_1745]

Thanks for the stats! @podcat

I knew NATO counters would be a minority, but I really thought it would be in the 25-30%. Thanks from one of the 12% who use them for having made them!

 

[huyderman]

I didn't even realize you needed permission to take stuff from mods. I thought your policies stated that you own the rights to them.

Yeah, that would have done over well with the community.

Some people tend to get pissy if they just implement a similar feature to a mod, I shudder at the thought of the backlash taking a whole mod and just integrating it without asking would trigger. Even if it were within their rights, it would be a pretty stupid move not to seek permission first, even if it was not technically needed.

 

[Es57]

I demand $5 for the Permanent Revolution focus idea.

The difference is that yours is only an idea.

What the modder did is actual programming that probably took him hours of work (if not more). And this work deserves salary if PDX is going to earn money thanks to it.

If the modder is not paid, that could encourage unscrupulous development studios (not PDX, of course !) to release a barebones game with minimal functionalities implemented, and than count on modders to develop it for free .

I wonder if there is jurisprudence on that matter...

 

[Sleight of Hand]

The difference is that yours is only an idea.

What the modder did is actual programming that probably took him hours of work (if not more). And this work deserves salary if PDX is going to earn money thanks to it.

If the modder is not paid, that could encourage unscrupulous development studios (not PDX, of course !) to release a barebones game with minimal functionalities implemented, and than count on modders to develop it for free .

I wonder if there is jurisprudence on that matter...

Sir, I believe you may be a cynic.

 

[EnvyDemon]

I would love to play MP, but I don't think any of my friends would like this game, and I fucking suck, so I can't play with randoms.

It's kinda the same here lol.

Maybe someday I'll sit down for a multiplayer session.

Still, if you want to get into it here is a link to the HOI IV multiplayer forums

 

[EnvyDemon]

Did that one before we saw your stuff ;o)

It's official.

Evil Company who probably is EA now (They share a building with DICE after all) steals innocent player's idea and refuses to compensate because Paradox is evil.

 

[hkrommel]

France is least popular at 6%

That's hilarious, they're the nation I (by far) play the most.

 

[tom_jones]

@podcat

I honestly think one of the reasons fewer people use NATO counters is that there aren't any extra division template icons, whereas there are for the Paradox icons. It would be great if you added some of your own.

Also, the extra NATO counters mod hasn't been updated since June and is outdated.

For the extra NATO symbols am using this mod which is kept up to date. Or at least my launcher doesn't complain about it.