HoI4 Dev Teasers (previously Podcat's Twitter Teasers)

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Here we already have France, Vichy France, Free France, Nationalist Spain, Republican Spain and I guess Italy is coming also so for this expansion we could easily have 6 like then, more if they decide to represent the Italian civil war.
Well I see just 3: France (Vichy and Free included because they are so small), National Spain and Republican Spain.

I think next one is Portugal (to many references in both trees).

Italy? Really don't know...
 

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I would like to see some work on Poland. Currently there is zero chance of staying alive without going either facist or communist. Obviously it shouldn't be easy, but there should at least be some chance especially since Germany can get huge industrial bonuses and 12 free civilian factories within first 4 focuses.

Another thing is that the game lacks any economic depth, which means that there are literally no costs (long-term or even short term) for bleeding your industry dry for military production.
 

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I would like to see some work on Poland. Currently there is zero chance of staying alive without going either facist or communist. Obviously it shouldn't be easy, but there should at least be some chance especially since Germany can get huge industrial bonuses and 12 free civilian factories within first 4 focuses.

Another thing is that the game lacks any economic depth, which means that there are literally no costs (long-term or even short term) for bleeding your industry dry for military production.

You can keep on going non-aligned and eat all the Baltic forming the commonwealth and taking a lot of cores, only giving Danzig. URSS will die if you build some defences. Cores in Ucrania are really good



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I miss some religion decisions and more events, I think it will come with Soviet Expansion :)
 
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the operational names have nothing to do with the content of the patch/DLC.
The last two were, although Hydra was purely a name reference (64 bit->multithreading, and what are hydras famous for?), not anything to do with actual Operations Hydra, and while Operation Ironclad was an amphibious operation, the more obvious connection for a naval update patch is, well, ironclads.
 

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I would like to see some work on Poland. Currently there is zero chance of staying alive without going either facist or communist. Obviously it shouldn't be easy, but there should at least be some chance especially since Germany can get huge industrial bonuses and 12 free civilian factories within first 4 focuses.

Another thing is that the game lacks any economic depth, which means that there are literally no costs (long-term or even short term) for bleeding your industry dry for military production.
You don't have to go communist or fascist, but you do have to cede to the claims of one of the sides.
You can definitely defend by yourself against either Germany or the USSR until a good opportunity to take them over appears, but against both is quite the tall order (not gonna say impossible, but I've never seen it myself).
 

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Well I see just 3: France (Vichy and Free included because they are so small), National Spain and Republican Spain.

I think next one is Portugal (to many references in both trees).

Italy? Really don't know...

They're really small, but really similar in size compared with the Warlord focus tree and combined Vichy/Free France could compete with the Focus Trees of older DLC
 

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Well I see just 3: France (Vichy and Free included because they are so small), National Spain and Republican Spain.

I think next one is Portugal (to many references in both trees).

Italy? Really don't know...
We could receive both Italy and Portugal but if we're going to get only 1 more then i bet it will be Italy for several reasons:

- PDX has started expanding and reworking 2 major nations ever since WTT
- it's the only other major besides France that was plunged into civil war during WW2 (it fits with the theme that this expansion has)
- it's near Spain and France which opens up a lot of potential for interactions

Also if they won't do Italy now then it will be left out because devs stated that they want to focus on Soviet Union and eastern front in next expansion and those two are the only major countries left that were not expanded since the release.
 

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Also if they won't do Italy now then it will be left out because devs stated that they want to focus on Soviet Union and eastern front in next expansion and those two are the only major countries left that were not

You also have Poland in need of a rework, but given their geopolitical situation they are better coming together with a Soviet Rework meanwhile the time for Italy it's now.

If this is true I hope they solve Italy joining the war even before the invasion of France since next patch will make the naval war a lot worse for the Italians.

Right now if they enter the war quickly they have to face both France and the UK, but it comes with the advantage that it you capitulate France quickly then Vichy will help your in the Mediterranean. Now if Vichy it's neutral after the armistice the AI will have to face the Royal Navy on its own.
 

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Do you guys think they'll be releasing twitter teases or a dev diary this week? I know PDXcon is this weekend but it'd still be cool to get a mini-diary or at least some teasers
 

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The last two were, although Hydra was purely a name reference (64 bit->multithreading, and what are hydras famous for?), not anything to do with actual Operations Hydra, and while Operation Ironclad was an amphibious operation, the more obvious connection for a naval update patch is, well, ironclads.
So Husky = scout dogs....
 

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Also if they won't do Italy now then it will be left out because devs stated that they want to focus on Soviet Union and eastern front in next expansion and those two are the only major countries left that were not expanded since the release.
They said a soviet rework will require its own expansion because it will be quite a lot of work. It has never been stated that it will be the focus after this one. It's important to point out because otherwise people will get their hopes up because of false information and I rather not have to read through endless toxic rage posts when it turns out the focus will be about something else entirely.
 

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I was a little worried about the upcoming Soviet stuff(from the indefinite future), but the Spanish focus tree kind of dispels most of the worries I might have had. Podcat said they were leaving it for later because they wanted to get some new gameplay mechanics in play first. I say we give him a chance and wait and see. Admittedly the game's timeframe does make good Soviet content a huge challenge because realistically Stalin had already crushed both left and right oppositions at this time.

I just hope they don't make the Right Opposition path some kind of Dengist thing. Bukharin was the leader of the "left communists" in 1918, he was hardly someone who wanted to embrace capitalism; it was more that he saw a kind of 'national socialism' as an impossibility. Trotsky and Stalin were basically the same in this regard, only Trotsky would not have called it socialism. Anyhow, here's hoping that it's good when it comes!
 

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I think the more interesting question is how powerful will the Soviets be once you overcome socialist lethargie and the purge?