HOI4 Dev Diary - Yugoslavia and Air Zones

[smederevo991]

Is it a star though? It looks more like the Serbian eagle to me.

It's a star alright, they just colored it gold so someone who doesn't know the history that much wouldn't catch it with his eye. But that's a Yugoslav People's Army uniform right there, 100%, and it's nowhere near WW2 time frame. But who knows, maybe this is Paradox hinting us that they'll make a Cold War expansion...

 

[QuakeRiley]

Yug can be neutral only if you chose in focus tree "Yugoslavia path to communism". Something what Tito did in RL.

Btw, very weak f.tree in my opinion.

Making the communist path the only way to avoid tying yourself to the great powers is awful.

 

[Gamer_1745]

@smederevo991

You don't think they will change it?

They wont fix this. He is wearing a U.S. Air Force Uniform. There was no U.S. Air Force during WW II.

 

[smederevo991]

And yeah, that is Ivan Gosnjak, which somehow Paradox always includes in the Royal Yugoslav army, in all HOI versions, even though when the game starts 1936, he's a carpenter who first went to USSR and then fought in the Spanish civil war. So he was not even in Yugoslavia, but somehow Paradox makes him a general....

(this pic is from 1966, some 20 years after HOI4 timeframe)

Ivan Gošnjak was a carpenter by profession and joined the Communist Party of Yugoslavia in 1933. In 1935 Gošnjak was sent to Moscow and was enrolled for one year at the Lenin School where he also attended lectures by "comrade Walter", better known by his World War II-era codename Tito. In 1936 Gošnjak was sent to a military barracks in Ryazan where he was given the designation "Number 36", instead of his real name and was given military instruction before being sent as a volunteer to the Spanish Civil War in January 1937. A great admirer of Joseph Stalin, Gošnjak was appointed captain in the International Brigades. After the defeat of the republican forces in Spain, Gošnjak was detained in France in 1939. After the capitulation of France in 1940 Gošnjak escaped from the camp, going in 1941 to Germany as a worker. In Germany he used a fake passport, and in July 1942 returned to Croatia and immediately joined Tito's partisans.

@podcat

Please, please, can you fix it? Or at least try and fix it in some future patch ? It shouldn't be that hard to make a proper research for things like these, if you need help you can always ask around the forums.

 

[JerkyJerry]

Come on, playing Kingdom of Yugoslavia and having a general with a red star on his cap, ruins the whole game...

Funniest post ever!
The whole game! The entire game! RUINED!!!!!
Oh man.....

Once again Podcat and the team hit another home run!

 

[Rundstedt75]

its 40% among majors with trees etc. Overall popularity is 24%. screenie from my presentation at pdxcon:

Not a single country on that slide has been given attention in the dlc so far. So, unless I'm mistaken, Paradox has used their resources on countries that no one plays. Perhaps this is deliberate to encourage people to play them more but that still seems foolish to me.

Hopefully China and Japan will be getting worked on next since nearly 15% of the games are played with those countries. Hopefully it won't be another dlc focused on other countries that were annexed before the war even started or held out for a couple weeks. But at this rate it'll probably be a Denmark/Netherlands focused dlc and people will demand unique tank sprites for the mighty Danish army.

 

[smederevo991]

Funniest post ever!
The whole game! The entire game! RUINED!!!!!
Oh man.....

Once again Podcat and the team hit another home run!

Perhaps you didn't understand, by "ruining the game" i meant the playthrough with Yugoslavia, not the ENTIRE game. So yeah, you should calm the hell down a bit, and not put words in my mouth. Or maybe you would like to play, i don't know, with UK while having Soviet generals, or something?

 

[JerkyJerry]

Perhaps you didn't understand, by "ruining the game" i meant the playthrough with Yugoslavia, not the ENTIRE game. So yeah, you should calm the hell down a bit, and not put words in my mouth. Or maybe you would like to play, i don't know, with UK while having Soviet generals, or something?

Thank you so much

Long live the Red Star!
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And would you do me a favor and post, cool whip anywhere at all.

 

[ImPrettyG]

Nice!

 

[Axe99]

Why not?
Axis offers most of the challenge, but playing Germany is quite a bit on easier side, thus one plays Italy.

Unless the game is expanded so it matters how you won, playing allied nations will always be underwhelming. If the point of UK game wouldn`t just be to win, but to win while not allowing USA and USSR to challenge it`d dominance in colonies, and prevent decolonisation, UK and France would probably be much higher on the list.

It depends a bit on why/how you play Paradox games. I've had more challenge from playing Britain (and France!) than any of my HoI4 Germany games - but if one survives long enough, and the Soviets don't crumple, then an Allied game can be fun (although in 1.3.3 Germany's weakness does make playing as the Allies far less interesting - although Germany knocked me over in one 1.3.3 game as France). It's not just about outright winning or losing, but can one finish off the Axis before the end of 1944, say.

It's also worth noting that in the same presentation, Podcat noted a large proportion (nearly half? Going from memory though, that could be off) played with historical focuses off, which opens everything up fairly radically, making a playthrough far less predictable. Britain may struggle to win if Germany and the USSR ally with each other, for example .

 

[Unmutual]

 

[Caspoi]

Another question: will you going fascist or democratic affect the political tree? For example some paths being locked and the effects on other changing, such as a fascist Yugoslavia being unable to take the options to increase minority rights but not risking an anti-german coup if they join the axis.

 

[Fryslan0109]

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Achievement Idea:

Rocket Power-ed - Research all rocket technologies as Yugoslavia with Josip Broz Tito as your leader. [or maybe produce x rockets per month/year]

 

[DoubleTT]

Can I Request the land divisional name generator it really breaks immersion for me I can't play until this is fixed.

 

[Meglok]

Why not?
Axis offers most of the challenge, but playing Germany is quite a bit on easier side, thus one plays Italy.

Unless the game is expanded so it matters how you won, playing allied nations will always be underwhelming. If the point of UK game wouldn`t just be to win, but to win while not allowing USA and USSR to challenge it`d dominance in colonies, and prevent decolonisation, UK and France would probably be much higher on the list.

I assume you are referencing a point system seen in many board games (example 3rd Reich) where everyone is judged by their standing at the end. Germany could win by still having x vp hexes or having lasted until well past their historical collapse date.

That would make it interesting for majors on historical, assuming an end date closer to the end of 1945. And assuming a more challenging ai appears "in some future patch". I agree that playing the Allies is underwhelming, but I believe that is a factor of the current weakness of the Axis AI play. Unfortunately playing ahistorical I can't see that system working, way too many variables. Perhaps the idea would be better applied in a mod?

 

[Populus Romanus]

@podcat Will Prince Paul be replaced as leader of Yugoslavia by King Peter II in 1941? Prince Paul was the regent for Peter II during his minority, yet he reached the age of majority on 1941 and would have become the king. I thing it would be great to include this as an event.

 

[Caspoi]

@podcat Will Prince Paul be replaced as leader of Yugoslavia by King Peter II in 1941? Prince Paul was the regent for Peter II during his minority, yet he reached the age of majority on 1941 and would have become the king. I thing it would be great to include this as an event.

There is one already if the UK has completed the Balkan focus and Yugoslavia has aligned with Germany.

 

[Farquarsen]

Want a challenge? Play UK with all other powers at Max buffed (gear wheel, set all other countries except Uk to max), Use Expert AI, all four mods, and then see how you do.

 

[Rundstedt75]

Can I Request the land divisional name generator it really breaks immersion for me I can't play until this is fixed.

You'll have to pay another $20 for that.

 

[Warden2054]

There is one already if the UK has completed the Balkan focus and Yugoslavia has aligned with Germany.

Event is there.. But the event doesn't work now because of two issues.
First, there is no event that makes Yugoslavia join to Axis. @Archangel85 said Germany has new event exerting pressure on Yugoslavia to join your faction in 1.4 patch, so maybe this issue will be solved.
Second issue is Balkan Strategy focus is not on UK historical NF order list, so UK doesn't pick the NF until 1944~. This issue makes, at historical mode, Yugoslavia Coup never could happen on 1941 like real history.