HoI4 Dev Diary - Soviet Union Exiles

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“Comrade Bratyn, you have been found guilty of counter-WW2 activity. You have been seen consorting with citizens and even figurehead ideologues of the Imperator team. Undeniable proof of work by your hand can be seen in publications by this group of dissidents made over the course of the past year. You do not fool us. We know “Drikus” is just another alias you use.
“Your attempts at shirking your duties to the Team will not be tolerated. Discussion of the Classical Period is wholly unacceptable behaviour for a HoI4 citizen; publication of treasonous material is a crime far, far worse. You are hereby stripped of your rank and sentenced to the mines in HoI-beria. Perhaps a year’s hard labor working on good, proper WW2 material will enable you to see the errors of your ways, and rehabilitate you sufficiently to regain your previous liberties.
“Comrade Bratyn, I will not welcome you back. You were foolish to think you could ever leave, in the first place.”


Hello everyone, and welcome to the third (yes you read that right) dev diary on the Soviet Union focus tree! And yes, in the words of a famous hero who fought valiantly and sacrificed himself for the defense of Earth some 25 years ago: “Hello boys! I’m baaaaaaaaaack!” Not to worry, though! Unlike Russel, I’m not here to destroy the project by dealing catastrophic damage to the superweapon that is this very next DLC that we’re unleashing upon a collection of RVs near a remote and officially non-existing military base in Nevada the world. That requires backbone, and we’re not allowed to have one of those here in HoI-beria.

It has already been explained in previous DDs that the sheer size of the Soviet tree has meant multiple CDs have been slaving away working proudly on it. This has been doubly the case for the non-Communist branches (which the eagle-eyed among you already noticed in last week's diary must lurk off to the side of the picture you were shown): the collection of CDs that have contributed to these branches have almost been as numerous and varied as the groups comprising the White Movement that inspired them... *Laughs nervously, glancing at his room’s locked door* While I initially was given some background features to toil away on, I eventually was drafted into this group of laborers-- *Glances at the silhouettes of guards visible through the window in the door, sweating this time and continuing in an excessively loud voice* ...Erhhh, I-I mean, I volunteered for this honorable task to contribute in some small way to the ever-increasing glory of the HoI4 Team, which has so graciously and mercifully deigned to allow me to prove my unceasing loyalty through my labor! *Sweats profusely* ...I, uh, am also proud to have volunteered as… as spokesman for this assembled group of CDs, and tell you all about what we’ve been doing!

*Clears throat raspily* Very well, let’s get started.


The Exiles

In 1936 the so-called White Movement was in shambles. Despite extensive international support, the Bolsheviks had eventually defeated the loose and diverse anti-Communist coalition (who really only agreed on one point: that the communists must be defeated) that vied for control of the country in the Russian Civil War. With many of their leaders dead, much of the remnants of the Whites fled the country rather than be purged. Many of these fled to Manchuria, which in the early 1930s was invaded and occupied by the Japanese.

In the years afterwards these exiles in Manchuria were supported by the Japanese to cause problems for the Soviets across the border (including such intrepid endeavours as erecting a giant neon swastika 3km from the Soviet-Manchurian border). While certainly not the only collection of White exiles in the world, they were the only ones to be in any conceivable position to do any material damage whatsoever to the Soviet state. If an anti-Soviet uprising was to take place, it would therefore likely be in the old White-controlled areas of the Far East and Siberia: far from the tightly-controlled industrial areas of the far west of the Soviet Union, and where Japanese equipment and support would be most forthcoming.

Are you up for the challenge of ousting the Bolsheviks after all, guiding the nation through an Electric Boogaloo of Russian civil wars, reinstating the Romanovs, and, finally, returning its former Glory to the Russian Empire?

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The Build-Up

If so, the only way to affect such a drastic change by the mid-1930s is through civil war.

In many ways the build-up to the Civil War for the Nationalists and the Tsarists plays similar to the Communist Opposition build-ups, albeit with a somewhat different touch. The red army is highly politicized so you will find it harder to actually gain a large following there, and you won’t get any support from the NKVD either. But let’s look at the “pre-civil-war” part of the tree:

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This part of the branch all revolves around various ways in which to prepare for the civil war: obtaining equipment, units, factories, national spirits, decisions, and even advisors for when the civil war kicks off. At the same time, decisions allow you to spread your influence (starting in the Far East) throughout the Soviet Union, readying states for an uprising to coincide with crossing the border from Manchuria. Despite this preparatory work, however, the Soviets have solidified their power tremendously over the past 20 years, and this war will be a challenge.

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Religion

One way of preparing for the continuation of the counterrevolution, and undermining communist support, is to gain the support of the church. Some of the Orthodox Church’s bishops (‘metropolitans’) had fled abroad rather than cooperate with such a militant atheist government as Stalin’s. Others elected to stay, and in 1927 Patriarch Sergy issued a divisive Proclamation on behalf of the Russian Orthodox Church that professed absolute loyalty to the Communist government of the country. Many metropolitans broke communion with him as a result. Despite the proclamation, 1931 still saw the destruction of the Cathedral of Christ the Savior in Moscow, to make room for a colossal Palace of the Soviets. These are the kinds of decisions that need to be overturned to return faith and religion to the central position that it deserves in Russian society, providing suitable rewards accordingly.

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Eventually, you may begin the war:

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As stated, it will not be easy, and the Soviets enjoy a tremendous military and industrial advantage over you. You will have to make intelligent use of your resources and subversive activities to level the playing field even slightly and make an unlikely victory happen. Luckily, the possibility of foreign aid exists, though even this may not be enough. The final ‘ace in the hole’ is swallowing your pride and making the Japanese an offer they cannot resist: the elimination of a rival power to their northwest, major territorial gains on the Pacific coast, and even the installation of a subject regime in the power vacuum their rival’s collapse would create… All this might buy their direct involvement, but the price is very high...

Consolidation

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Once the civil war has been won, it is now time to consolidate your power, rebuild the war-torn nation, and replace the White provisional government with the more stable will of a Romanov. This calls for the convening of a Zemsky Sobor, who will elect Tsar Vladimir I to this position.

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These focuses (and some of the later religious branch’s focuses) also will also spark the return of many anti-Communist exiles to their homeland. From here, you may continue to embrace either of the two predominant ideological flows that comprise the White Movement:

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The first of these is the Tsarist branch - solidifying the Tsar’s autocratic control over the country and restoring the Romanov dynasty. This branch seeks to restore the Russian Empire’s old borders; reconquering the many states that were lost after the Great War, and pushing beyond.

tsarist branch.png

The second of these is the Fascist branch - turning over power to Rodzaevsky and reducing the Tsarist to a figurehead monarch, like in many nations in the West. Under this leadership, the embarrassments of old will be redressed and avenged; in particular the Empire’s defeat at the hands of Japan over 30 years prior. This path also focuses on naval build-up in the far east, and even explores bold forays into the Americas…

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Finally, a doublet of formable nations exist for these branches. As the Tsarists, it is possible to extol the unity of the Slavic Peoples, and truly take up the role of their Protector. Be strong enough, be liked enough, and Slavic nations under threat will join you willingly. If not, you may take them by force. Regardless of how you unify them: you may form a grand Union of the Slavs if you succeed in this task.

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Alternatively (and open to both branches), you might emphasize the role of the Church in the new nation you have created. Choosing this spiritual path will elevate the Metropolitan of Harbin to leader of the nation, and opens up the ability to claim Russia’s rightful place as the only true heirs of an empire long gone…

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Finally, I’ll briefly hand over the word to Comrade @Wrongwraith.

New Releasables

As hinted in last week's DD we’ve also added a few more releasable countries that can become independent in a peace deal or through focuses. So basically all SSR’s, ASSR’s and some of the Okrugs of the USSR are covered, as well as some other countries that existed before the establishment of the Soviet Union in 1922.

To give you an idea, the map can now look like this:

fragmented_SU.png

Some of the releasable countries overlap. For example, the Far Eastern Republic has cores on both Chukotka and Vladivostok as well. The map above shows as many simultaneous countries as possible in the Soviet Union area.

And of course this means loads of new flags. Some of you guessed right last week! The flags shown were for an independent communist Karelia and a non-aligned Buryat Republic.

And there are loads more, like this one for example:

sakha_republic.png


In addition, we added a few new formables for those countries, just in case you feel like reforming Idel Ural for example.



Now, with that out of the way: that was all from us for today! It should go without saying that the tree is still being actively worked on, and so what you saw here may not represent 100% what is eventually released. I do hope you liked this little peek into what’s going on with the not-so-Communist Soviet things! *Attempts to feign a joyful laugh, but then glances nervously at the door again, leans forward, and adds in an urgent whisper:* I mean it… If I don’t meet my quota of likes and get a ratio of above 90% for this diary I’ll be scrubbing keyboards for a month!

Oh - almost forgot - the Soviet Focus Tree behemoth as of currently:


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“Comrade Bratyn, you have been found guilty of counter-WW2 activity. You have been seen consorting with citizens and even figurehead ideologues of the Imperator team. Undeniable proof of work by your hand can be seen in publications by this group of dissidents made over the course of the past year. You do not fool us. We know “Drikus” is just another alias you use.
“Your attempts at shirking your duties to the Team will not be tolerated. Discussion of the Classical Period is wholly unacceptable behaviour for a HoI4 citizen; publication of treasonous material is a crime far, far worse. You are hereby stripped of your rank and sentenced to the mines in HoI-beria. Perhaps a year’s hard labor working on good, proper WW2 material will enable you to see the errors of your ways, and rehabilitate you sufficiently to regain your previous liberties.
“Comrade Bratyn, I will not welcome you back. You were foolish to think you could ever leave, in the first place.”


Hello everyone, and welcome to the third (yes you read that right) dev diary on the Soviet Union focus tree! And yes, in the words of a famous hero who fought valiantly and sacrificed himself for the defense of Earth some 25 years ago: “Hello boys! I’m baaaaaaaaaack!” Not to worry, though! Unlike Russel, I’m not here to destroy the project by dealing catastrophic damage to the superweapon that is this very next DLC that we’re unleashing upon a collection of RVs near a remote and officially non-existing military base in Nevada the world. That requires backbone, and we’re not allowed to have one of those here in HoI-beria.

It has already been explained in previous DDs that the sheer size of the Soviet tree has meant multiple CDs have been slaving away working proudly on it. This has been doubly the case for the non-Communist branches (which the eagle-eyed among you already noticed in last week's diary must lurk off to the side of the picture you were shown): the collection of CDs that have contributed to these branches have almost been as numerous and varied as the groups comprising the White Movement that inspired them... *Laughs nervously, glancing at his room’s locked door* While I initially was given some background features to toil away on, I eventually was drafted into this group of laborers-- *Glances at the silhouettes of guards visible through the window in the door, sweating this time and continuing in an excessively loud voice* ...Erhhh, I-I mean, I volunteered for this honorable task to contribute in some small way to the ever-increasing glory of the HoI4 Team, which has so graciously and mercifully deigned to allow me to prove my unceasing loyalty through my labor! *Sweats profusely* ...I, uh, am also proud to have volunteered as… as spokesman for this assembled group of CDs, and tell you all about what we’ve been doing!

*Clears throat raspily* Very well, let’s get started.


The Exiles

In 1936 the so-called White Movement was in shambles. Despite extensive international support, the Bolsheviks had eventually defeated the loose and diverse anti-Communist coalition (who really only agreed on one point: that the communists must be defeated) that vied for control of the country in the Russian Civil War. With many of their leaders dead, much of the remnants of the Whites fled the country rather than be purged. Many of these fled to Manchuria, which in the early 1930s was invaded and occupied by the Japanese.

In the years afterwards these exiles in Manchuria were supported by the Japanese to cause problems for the Soviets across the border (including such intrepid endeavours as erecting a giant neon swastika 3km from the Soviet-Manchurian border). While certainly not the only collection of White exiles in the world, they were the only ones to be in any conceivable position to do any material damage whatsoever to the Soviet state. If an anti-Soviet uprising was to take place, it would therefore likely be in the old White-controlled areas of the Far East and Siberia: far from the tightly-controlled industrial areas of the far west of the Soviet Union, and where Japanese equipment and support would be most forthcoming.

Are you up for the challenge of ousting the Bolsheviks after all, guiding the nation through an Electric Boogaloo of Russian civil wars, reinstating the Romanovs, and, finally, returning its former Glory to the Russian Empire?

View attachment 749019

The Build-Up

If so, the only way to affect such a drastic change by the mid-1930s is through civil war.

In many ways the build-up to the Civil War for the Nationalists and the Tsarists plays similar to the Communist Opposition build-ups, albeit with a somewhat different touch. The red army is highly politicized so you will find it harder to actually gain a large following there, and you won’t get any support from the NKVD either. But let’s look at the “pre-civil-war” part of the tree:

View attachment 749025

This part of the branch all revolves around various ways in which to prepare for the civil war: obtaining equipment, units, factories, national spirits, decisions, and even advisors for when the civil war kicks off. At the same time, decisions allow you to spread your influence (starting in the Far East) throughout the Soviet Union, readying states for an uprising to coincide with crossing the border from Manchuria. Despite this preparatory work, however, the Soviets have solidified their power tremendously over the past 20 years, and this war will be a challenge.

View attachment 749016

Religion

One way of preparing for the continuation of the counterrevolution, and undermining communist support, is to gain the support of the church. Some of the Orthodox Church’s bishops (‘metropolitans’) had fled abroad rather than cooperate with such a militant atheist government as Stalin’s. Others elected to stay, and in 1927 Patriarch Sergy issued a divisive Proclamation on behalf of the Russian Orthodox Church that professed absolute loyalty to the Communist government of the country. Many metropolitans broke communion with him as a result. Despite the proclamation, 1931 still saw the destruction of the Cathedral of Christ the Savior in Moscow, to make room for a colossal Palace of the Soviets. These are the kinds of decisions that need to be overturned to return faith and religion to the central position that it deserves in Russian society, providing suitable rewards accordingly.

View attachment 749017

View attachment 749026

Eventually, you may begin the war:

View attachment 749029

As stated, it will not be easy, and the Soviets enjoy a tremendous military and industrial advantage over you. You will have to make intelligent use of your resources and subversive activities to level the playing field even slightly and make an unlikely victory happen. Luckily, the possibility of foreign aid exists, though even this may not be enough. The final ‘ace in the hole’ is swallowing your pride and making the Japanese an offer they cannot resist: the elimination of a rival power to their northwest, major territorial gains on the Pacific coast, and even the installation of a subject regime in the power vacuum their rival’s collapse would create… All this might buy their direct involvement, but the price is very high...

Consolidation

View attachment 749018

Once the civil war has been won, it is now time to consolidate your power, rebuild the war-torn nation, and replace the White provisional government with the more stable will of a Romanov. This calls for the convening of a Zemsky Sobor, who will elect Tsar Vladimir I to this position.

View attachment 749027

These focuses (and some of the later religious branch’s focuses) also will also spark the return of many anti-Communist exiles to their homeland. From here, you may continue to embrace either of the two predominant ideological flows that comprise the White Movement:

View attachment 749032

The first of these is the Tsarist branch - solidifying the Tsar’s autocratic control over the country and restoring the Romanov dynasty. This branch seeks to restore the Russian Empire’s old borders; reconquering the many states that were lost after the Great War, and pushing beyond.

View attachment 749031

The second of these is the Fascist branch - turning over power to Rodzaevsky and reducing the Tsarist to a figurehead monarch, like in many nations in the West. Under this leadership, the embarrassments of old will be redressed and avenged; in particular the Empire’s defeat at the hands of Japan over 30 years prior. This path also focuses on naval build-up in the far east, and even explores bold forays into the Americas…

View attachment 749020

Finally, a doublet of formable nations exist for these branches. As the Tsarists, it is possible to extol the unity of the Slavic Peoples, and truly take up the role of their Protector. Be strong enough, be liked enough, and Slavic nations under threat will join you willingly. If not, you may take them by force. Regardless of how you unify them: you may form a grand Union of the Slavs if you succeed in this task.

View attachment 749024

View attachment 749023

Alternatively (and open to both branches), you might emphasize the role of the Church in the new nation you have created. Choosing this spiritual path will elevate the Metropolitan of Harbin to leader of the nation, and opens up the ability to claim Russia’s rightful place as the only true heirs of an empire long gone…

View attachment 749030

Finally, I’ll briefly hand over the word to Comrade @Wrongwraith.

New Releasables

As hinted in last week's DD we’ve also added a few more releasable countries that can become independent in a peace deal or through focuses. So basically all SSR’s, ASSR’s and some of the Okrugs of the USSR are covered, as well as some other countries that existed before the establishment of the Soviet Union in 1922.

To give you an idea, the map can now look like this:

View attachment 749021

Some of the releasable countries overlap. For example, the Far Eastern Republic has cores on both Chukotka and Vladivostok as well. The map above shows as many simultaneous countries as possible in the Soviet Union area.

And of course this means loads of new flags. Some of you guessed right last week! The flags shown were for an independent communist Karelia and a non-aligned Buryat Republic.

And there are loads more, like this one for example:

View attachment 749028

In addition, we added a few new formables for those countries, just in case you feel like reforming Idel Ural for example.



Now, with that out of the way: that was all from us for today! It should go without saying that the tree is still being actively worked on, and so what you saw here may not represent 100% what is eventually released. I do hope you liked this little peek into what’s going on with the not-so-Communist Soviet things! *Attempts to feign a joyful laugh, but then glances nervously at the door again, leans forward, and adds in an urgent whisper:* I mean it… If I don’t meet my quota of likes and get a ratio of above 90% for this diary I’ll be scrubbing keyboards for a month!

Oh - almost forgot - the Soviet Focus Tree behemoth as of currently:


View attachment 749042





... .- ...- . / -- . -.-.-- / .-.. .- ... - / -. .. --. .... - / - .... . / -.-. .- -- .--. / --- -. .-.. -.-- / ..-. . -.. / -- . / .- / ... .-- . -.. .. ... .... / -... .- -. .- -. .- -....- .- -. -.. -....- -.-. ..- .-. .-. -.-- / .--. .. --.. --.. .- -.-.--
That is an amazing progress of the Russian focus tree! But in the part where you can release all the SSR's and ASSR's you forgot to include the ASSR of Nakhichevan which is located in South Caucasus. It is a republic located within the borders of the Azerbaijani SSR which is mostly inhabited by ethnic Azerbaijanis. Also the Adjarian ASSR which is basically batumi inhabited by Turks and Georgians. I also wish that the devs can work on making autonomous oblasts too (those which basically stayed until 1991) like the South Ossetian Autonomous oblast, Nagorno Karabakh Autonomous Oblast and Gorno Bardakhshan Autonomous Oblast. For the oblasts I wish that you would either have these nations vote to which SSR are going to be integrated in or simply just have them as releasable nations. Keep in mind South Ossetian AO is mainly populated by Ossetians, NAgorno Karabakh AO is mainly populated by Armenians and the Gorno Bardakhshan AO is mainly populated by Pamiris. I hope you take my suggestions into notice and good luck on your projects!
 
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I do not know if this is open to suggestions, but the economic tree of the Tsarist path should replace the 5 year plan with some sort of agrarian-religious themed plan. It could work similarly as a 5 year plan in the sense that it grants bonuses and debuffs in a period. But it should deal with the restoration of agrarian property and the reorganization of industry. There should be a focus of arming the farmers and other about orthodox militias. I am sure that with a little tweaking it can be easily done. Please do not add generic names and effects that ruin the inmersion
 
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I kinda wish you couldn't control Soviet Union at start if you want to go this White route. It makes no sense that you can cripple the soviet side and focus building everything on the Siberia to let you win the civil war. I'd rather see White Russia as a seperate tag that doesn't start with any provinces, much like governments in exile.
 
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does no one who is asking for Kerensky realize no one liked him in real life and he was a complete failure? in what universe would he come back to rule Russia and have any legitimacy?
 
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I must admit I find it a bit bizarre how the Whites *must* be Tsarist and you *only* get to choose between Absolute Monarchy, Theocracy and Rodzaevsky's lot. A little bit disappointing that the disparity and variety of the Whites isn't represented despite being mentioned in this dev diary. No options for the republican Fascists, the Mladorossia, military dictatorship, etcetera etcetera. I don't want to sound ungrateful because this still looks like smashing work but to be brutally honest it seems a tad bland compared to the communist paths
 
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God, I made the mistake of reading the comment section. It's like Poland all over again. Some of you guys just can't help but bitch and whine
I don't know what you are reading but actually the vast majority of those who complained here did in a respectfull manner i had not thought possible on the PDX forums.

Most of them said that while disappointed they still like the communist paths or simply feel underwhelmed because of the standard Paradox themselves set. I guess you just want to add fuel to a fire which doesn't even exist.
 
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It is simplified to simply coring core states of the countries mentioned, but at a cost.
Instead of it, what if you make it so the states with Slav minority (such as Sudetenland and Eastern Sudetenland, also Gdansk) would not be cored by Pan-Slavic Union, just like what you did to make Imperial Federation didn't core Transvaal, Malaya, and India, right?
I think this would be a pretty fair assessment as to why the number of Tsarist/Fascist focuses individually do not quite match the other two Communist branches
Better to have more depth in basis of plausible what-ifs to those two than this branch that probably would be completed in 1942.

Also, sorry for being a bit personal, but indeed Historical stuffs better suits you.
To get in early here, no, there will not be a democratic path in the soviet tree. As you should be able to tell from the last 3 diaries, this is already our largest focus tree. We opted to spend the time that we had on making a detailed and comprehensive pass on the paths you've seen.
Grrr....
Thank you! I won't be back permanently, however - just passing through for this DLC, before moving on to new adventures :)
Oh, this explains THAT, then.
 
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I'll admit, I had basically no hopes going into this. And yet, the closest thing to a meme path is the Monarchist path being a bit overpowered. A FAR cry from the Baltic rework which... Well, let's just say it left a lot to be desired.

Overall, pretty solid all in all.
 
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After seeing how much they half-assed trees for communist/democratic Japan and confederate/commie USA i'm not surprised that Tsar tree is so small and lacking content. I find it funny though, every single Baltic nation has a bigger ahistorical path than Tsarist Russia.
 
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I don't understand at all by the way how Poland is included in the "pan-slavic union" as having any realistic chance of being cored, considering they had just fought the Russians a bit over a decade prior - but ok then.
 
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I might as well add my 2 cents regarding the democratic path, even if I am very happy with the Soviet and Exiles trees overall. If a democratic path is added as bonus, then I think that a good way to implement it would be as a small branch after the Zemsky Sobor focus, resulting basically in a constitutional democratic monarchy which could then probably join the Allies or have the Pan-Slavic nationalism focus shared idk. I am not sure what exactly a democratic path would look like since I don't know much about the history.
 
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It's kinda okay, I guess?

It's kinda short, but it's understandable.
Several options are very odd, and some good opportunities were missed.

Missed opportunities:
* Preparation for civil war seems to be limited to just Manchuria and Japan.
But back in 1936 there were still relatively strong exile organizations in europe, such as Russian All-Military Union, which only fallen apart after Yevgeny Miller was captured and executed by Soviet spies in 1937. Sure, they couldn't be the primary source of the uprising, but they could have bigger role in uprising.
It would be great if one could appeal to eastern european countries (mostly Poland,Romania, Finland) to give shelter to emigre forces who then would spawn in states like Murmask or Odessa - a second front to distract the Soviets. Some like Bermondite Poland could even intervene directly. Great powers opposed to USSR and communism, like UK, Italy, or Germany could be asked for military equipment and volunteers - while they didn't necessarily like the Whites or expect them to win, they would still welcome the opportunity to weaken the USSR.
* Multiple-sides civil war
It would make sense as backstory, and made civil war easier for the Whites, if Reds had their own civil war going between themselves in addition to White uprising.
If some configuration of Stalin, Trotsky, and Bukharin were shooting at each other (basically any civil war scenario from previos dev diaries, only with addition third faction, the Exiles), then it would make perfect sense for Whites to exploit the opportunity and crossing Amur. Because suddenly attacking united Soviet heads-on is just wrong from storytelling perspective - there needs to be narrative reason why our plucky underdogs have waited two decades to finally do something.

Odd choices:
* The Third Rome. It's just wrong. There already was Orthodox Russian State, it was just Russian Empire. Orthodox Church was always accepting of cesaropapism, they had no ambition of outright theocratic rule. But what's most disgusting, is giving it a name of "Third Rome" - it seems part of trend to give countries nonsensical names (like Bermondite Poland, Jesus Christ). If you absolutely need it to have different cosmetic tag, just name it "Holy Russian Empire".
* Exclusivity of foreign policy in Non-Aligned and Fascist paths.
I am not sure why political alignment determines whether Russian expansionism will be directed East or West. Both Tsarist and Fascist Russias could want revenge for 1906, and both would want to reclaim land in the West. I reckon than more than 90% of foci from both of those exlusive paths should in fact be shared between them - it would certainly help to make up for tree being rather small in the first place.
 
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I really don't understand, is this path considered some sort of inside joke at Paradox? It's honestly hard to tell if it is considering you literally called the reinvigoration of the Church focus "opiate of the masses". Which if "paranoia" is considered offensive or of poor taste for the Stalin purge mechanic, this is infinitely more so.

Aside from the baffling choice not to include any democratic path, or even some sort of constituational monarchy, what are some of these focuses even?

Calling for Semyonov? Really? A murdering rapist whom most of the White Movement condemned is now a key player?

A revival of Rome under a Patriarch? What? Has Orthodoxy become Catholicism? Where did this idea even come from?
 
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Why was there no patriarch? In 1917, after the fall of the monarchy, a Pomestnyy Sobor was convened, which discussed the issue of the patriarchate and elected Tikhon as patriarch.

Another question is why this national focus is establishing a theocracy in Russia, when the concept of the Third Rome did not imply anything of the kind.

The Patriarch was chosen in 1917 only because Tsar abdicated. It wasn't a strong institution at all until 1940s, when Stalin reapproached Orthodox priests, it was scraping by with Patriarch having little power until then.

A Patriarch that had to work with Soviets wouldn't ever be promoted to being a spiritual leader like a Pope too.

As you said, if restored Monarchy would want to focus on Religion, it would take the mantle of Religious Leader on himself for doing Third Rome kind of ideological choice.

It could take longer to describe the prope state of affairs in Russian Orthodox Church, but tl;dr - that event is awful as it is currently. But of course people will pretend that Orthodoxy is just like Catholicism...

P.S. Unifying All Slavs but not retaking Tsargrad? The biggest dream of Russian Empire for last 2 centuries?
 
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I will be honest. I really like the new mechanics with the communist paths and they are very detailed. But the non-communist paths are empty, you dont have choices, no democratic path, no alternative dynasty, no details. You can just win the war then bring back the tsar and conquer a bunch of stuff. It will be so boring after one game. I really hope you will rework this...
 
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Eh, I'm fine with these paths being much worse than the Communist ones- people usually complain about HOI4 being too unrealistic, so I'm glad 90% of development was spent on historical or more plausible alt history. And the communist paths are the best ones HOI4 has so far

The lack of any Democratic option like a constitutional monarchy, even like a three focus one, and locking Third Rome to a theocracy are a bit disappointing tho
 
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It's kinda okay, I guess?

It's kinda short, but it's understandable.
Several options are very odd, and some good opportunities were missed.

Missed opportunities:
* Preparation for civil war seems to be limited to just Manchuria and Japan.
But back in 1936 there were still relatively strong exile organizations in europe, such as Russian All-Military Union, which only fallen apart after Yevgeny Miller was captured and executed by Soviet spies in 1937. Sure, they couldn't be the primary source of the uprising, but they could have bigger role in uprising.
It would be great if one could appeal to eastern european countries (mostly Poland,Romania, Finland) to give shelter to emigre forces who then would spawn in states like Murmask or Odessa - a second front to distract the Soviets. Some like Bermondite Poland could even intervene directly. Great powers opposed to USSR and communism, like UK, Italy, or Germany could be asked for military equipment and volunteers - while they didn't necessarily like the Whites or expect them to win, they would still welcome the opportunity to weaken the USSR.
* Multiple-sides civil war
It would make sense as backstory, and made civil war easier for the Whites, if Reds had their own civil war going between themselves in addition to White uprising.
If some configuration of Stalin, Trotsky, and Bukharin were shooting at each other (basically any civil war scenario from previos dev diaries, only with addition third faction, the Exiles), then it would make perfect sense for Whites to exploit the opportunity and crossing Amur. Because suddenly attacking united Soviet heads-on is just wrong from storytelling perspective - there needs to be narrative reason why our plucky underdogs have waited two decades to finally do something.

Off choices:
* The Third Rome. It's just wrong. There already was Orthodox Russian State, it was just Russian Empire. Orthodox Church was always accepting of cesaropapism, they had no ambition of outright theocratic rule. But what's most disgusting, is giving it a name of "Third Rome" - it seems part of trend to give countries nonsensical names (like Bermondite Poland, Jesus Christ). If you absolutely need it to have different cosmetic tag, just name it "Holy Russian Empire".
* Exclusivity of foreign policy in Non-Aligned and Fascist paths.
I am not sure why political alignment determines whether Russian expansionism will be directed East or West. Both Tsarist and Fascist Russias could want revenge for 1906, and both would want to reclaim land in the West. I reckon than more than 90% of foci from both of those exlusive paths should in fact be shared between them - it would certainly help to make up for tree being rather small in the first place.
Yeah I agree with your additions - it would be cool if Western European exiles had the ability to influence the war. Also if anti-communist states in Europe could help the whites with their attempt and if the Red civil war had a role to play in justifying the war
 
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