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Hey @Buzz! Tell me your working (or have been) on the minor nation of Bulgaria as well. As soon as death and dishonor came out the only two nations that came to loose where Bulgaria and Greece :^)
 

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When do you guys think the new dlc will come out. Maybe within this year or early next year?
Since it's just a country pack, my guess is we'll have it by Christmas.
 

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Since it's just a country pack, my guess is we'll have it by Christmas.
My guess, even if it is optimistic, is around November. DoD had 10 diaries prior to release, so imagine this pack will be similar. The pandemic may slow the release a bit, though.
 
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Can we have a picture of the generals and the admirals?
Well Greece and even Bulgaria already having unique pictures of their Generals while Turkey is getting them with this upcoming DLC - before they got just Generic randoms pictures.
 

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I like the way this Greek tree works, should make the "I Swear I'm not a Byzantophile" Achievement much easier, and fun. I eagerly await this update.
I highly doubt it will become easier. Usually it becomes harder. I dont see you being able to take Yugoslavia and Albania becore Italy and before allies guarantee them with this new focus tree.

Maybe that's just the pessimist in me. I do WANT a good alt history Greece tree that lets you become big but i don't see it.

You know, I find that a bit... odd. Don’t get me wrong, Italy SHOULD be in an expansion, that’s for sure. But now that they are tackling Greece, and probably Turkey and Bulgaria, where would Italy fit?

Contrary to most people, I think Italy’s FT is by far worse than that of the Soviets and deserves more love. But I can’t see who would come with Italy in an expansion... Austria? Albania? Ethiopia? Switzerland? The first three are annexed rather soon and Switzerland... is Switzerland :) - they were 100% neutral the entire war!

In short, I just can’t see how they could add an “Italy themed” expansion after this pack is released. It would either be pretty much Italy alone, or Italy + 3 other random nations or so...

Anyhow, it’s just speculation, at this point. We’ll have to wait and see

Could always be Italy Hungary yugoslavia and Romania with updated trees.

I really hope this will not create even stronger minors. Even when I play as minor I don't want to feel like I can conquer all world... Still think that there should be more difference of strength between majors and minors. Maybe there should be some additional options for playing as minor?

PS also I don't understand why people are obsessed with national focuses, it's least interesting part of the game for me.

Would be much more interested to see research system would be reworked from the scratch. For example ship building mechanic could work for research system. Choose research and then add research facilities to that research. And you also could build more those research facilities.. and could bomb them on enemy lands. @podcat
But why not for strong minor potential? Otherwise why even bother playing then? You get strong because you work at it. No minor is given any sort of strength for free. Austria Hungary is still a minor and its never free. Damn rng....

There is no minor that becomes a super power for free. All minors have to work for it.

Plus it provides options for players to do instead of just playing the majors. More life in the game.
 
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Well Greece and even Bulgaria already having unique pictures of their Generals while Turkey is getting them with this upcoming DLC - before they got just Generic randoms pictures.
Thats wrong, Greece and Bulgaria had generic portraits and generals as well
 

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Yea relooking at the focus tree, the only way to get the byzatine is by going communist. The facists work with Turkey so they are in your faction so thats not possible and the Byzatine Themata is democratic so thats not a thing either. So the Byzantine Empire will be much easier with the basic tree sadly unless you can bypass the ally turkey focus by declaring on turkey earlier, but we'll see how it actually plays out, but the way it looks like, the achievment just got ten times harder unless you go communist which is just... wrong.
 
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Communist Byzantium is coming
Again, thats just from what I saw looking at the tree posted here. It looks like the facist side sides with Turkey for a Turkey and greece alliance, while communist does communist things, monarchist is the democratic side.

And even right now, trying to do the Byzatine Empire comes down to so much luck as well as skill but still alot of luck. Its honestly really grating trying to get the achievment. So, it is just from what was posted to us that my assumption is the Byzatine Empire will be even more difficult to make which is already one of the hardest things to do in the game.
 
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Again, thats just from what I saw looking at the tree posted here. It looks like the facist side sides with Turkey for a Turkey and greece alliance, while communist does communist things, monarchist is the democratic side.

And even right now, trying to do the Byzatine Empire comes down to so much luck as well as skill but still alot of luck. Its honestly really grating trying to get the achievment. So, it is just from what was posted to us that my assumption is the Byzatine Empire will be even more difficult to make which is already one of the hardest things to do in the game.
Read the DD again, democratic path is the one that focuses on Meghali idea which can also get expanded into Byzantium later on if the government colapses and fascists take over. Also it doesn't matter which ideology you are, the formable state decision is usually allowed no matter which government you have (unless if they will change it).

And yes it should be hard to achieve Byzantium, we're talking about an empire that collapsed 500 years ago.
 

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Read the DD again, democratic path is the one that focuses on Meghali idea which can also get expanded into Byzantium later on if the government colapses and fascists take over. Also it doesn't matter which ideology you are, the formable state decision is usually allowed no matter which government you have (unless if they will change it).

And yes it should be hard to achieve Byzantium, we're talking about an empire that collapsed 500 years ago.
Correct, but now it looks even harder when its already one of the most difficult achievments there. I don't mind a challenge. I mind it when I have to bang my head against the wall 600 times as well as pray that luck is on my side to get an achievment. And it the government collapses. That's cryptic.

Again, the only way to currently get it is cheeseing Italy out of Albania and getting it around late 1940-1941 cause otherwise, you're never going to get it.

You also realize they can't make it too difficult cause its a achievment. lol
 

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Why are the Venizelists locked into the Megali Idea? Even in the early 30s, Venizelos and Ataturk personally started to bury the hatchet and take steps toward an alliance. Seems like there should maybe be another split in the Greek democratic tree, one involving accepting the Balkan Pact?
 
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Why are the Venizelists locked into the Megali Idea? Even in the early 30s, Venizelos and Ataturk personally started to bury the hatchet and take steps toward an alliance. Seems like there should maybe be another split in the Greek democratic tree, one involving accepting the Balkan Pact?
Yeah a more peaceful path is missing which is a shame, personally I would've given the democratic path 3 sub-trees, an war,mongering one, the one we have, a peaceful one, seeking to compromise with its neighbours and pacify the Balkans, and a middle one that takes elements from both, such as taking old Greek land but never going too crazy and still seeking allies in a Balkan Pact/Entente.
 
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