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Hello everyone, and welcome back to a new dev diary for Man the Guns and the 1.6 “Ironclad” update! Unfortunately, the next part of the naval combat rework is not entirely ready to show off, yet, and so to give them some extra time I’m stepping into the breach to give you an update on some of the things (this is by no means an exhaustive list, but rather the highlights) the HoI4 Content Design team have fixed or adjusted since showing off the focus trees :)

Issues regarding ideology (and drift)

An issue that has come up in the community on multiple occasions are the issues caused by permanent ideology drift National Spirits. For instance, puppeting a fascist nation as a communist, only to have it gradually drift back to fascism because it once upon a time got a National Spirit giving it 0.10 fascism drift.

To solve this, we’ve gone with a two-pronged approach. First of all, all National Spirits that give ideology drift now either time out after 2-3 years, or, in the case of Spirits that have other effects than just ideology drift, and therefore need to be permanent, are removed when the ideology shifts away from the ideology drift they provide.

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In addition, we’ve added new decisions that give you greater control over the ideology of your subjects. These allow you to expend political power to give an ideology drift, and, when ideology support becomes high enough, forcibly swap them to your ideology.

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Adjustments to Netherlands focus tree

I was not too pleased with the Monarchist path in the Netherlands focus tree, and so I’ve tinkered a little bit with it to make it more unique and (hopefully) more interesting. The original design suffered from, yes, being too constrained by historical plausibility. Attempting to trace the most likely path for a royal take-over we can find some indications that Queen Wilhelmina historically wanted to use her wartime popularity, combined with the weakness of the Dutch Government-in-Exile (GiE), to obtain sweeping constitutional changes that would give much greater power to the Queen, after the liberation of the Netherlands. In HoI4, however, this would entail requiring the player to play poorly, lose the fight in the continent, become a government-in-exile, then flip to Neutrality, and subsequently gain no benefits at all from the tree because you do not control your land anymore, while just sitting back and supporting the British in their war (because historically the Queen wanted to do just that, rather than doing any ‘cool independent stuff’ on her own). None of this makes for fun gameplay.

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The Monarchist path is on the left-hand side, but shares certain focuses (the branch leading up to "Request Allied Favors") with the Democratic path (the right-hand side).

It is still possible to go through the path as a GiE, as multiple focuses give you bonuses regardless of whether you have control of your homeland or not. However, it is no longer a requirement to have capitulated. New focuses give offmap military factories, as well as building up Belgium and Luxemburg after you get them through Revive the Buffer State Proposal. A final focus has been added to give a sort of ‘endgame’. Wilhelminism revolves around a cunning plot to use the German Kaiser (in exile in Huis Doorn in the Netherlands since the end of the First World War) to attract German deserters, and incite an insurrection to weaken the German position. This focus periodically spawns free divisions comprised of German deserters, while also giving Germany a National Spirit draining their manpower. Once any German territory has been ‘liberated’ by the Netherlands, an actual civil war kicks off in Germany, where the Kaiser (or his son, if he died) leads a rebellion (headquartered in the territory you just liberated) to put the von Hohenzollerns back on the German throne. This civil war nation exists as a puppet of the Netherlands, and so can be supported by you. Once the war is won, the Kaiser will require you to fulfill your end of the bargain, involving releasing them as an independent nation, and then proposes to create a formal alliance. If you happen to own Waking the Tiger, this will also set this new Germany on the Kaiserreich path, likely leading to a war with the Allies (who won’t be too happy with you doing all this in the first place).

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Adjustments to the British focus tree

In the original UK focus tree reveal, I mentioned the naval tree would get a make-over as well. This has now been done.

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Various new additions have been made to the tree. Anti-Non-Contact Committee gives tech bonuses to minelaying and minesweeping, while Anti-Submarine Training School gives doctrine bonuses to Convoy Defense, as well as a National Spirit that improves Destroyer experience gain. ASW Warfare gives 2x ahead of time tech bonuses for Anti-Submarine Warfare modules, while Expanding the Repair Yards gives a couple of Dockyards and a national spirit making repairs and refits cheaper and faster. Vanguard gives a modern Battleship template, and also creates a ‘free’ battleship of this template in Clydebank (Lanark state).

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I also added some focuses that tie in to the Reinforce the Empire branch. As the British relied heavily on their light cruisers to keep the trade lanes secure, that is now represented in a new focus that requires both Naval Rearmament as well as Service Overseas.

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Following Commonwealth Ties, then, comes the last addition: a focus representing the massive British Commonwealth Air Training Plan. This gives bonuses to air (and air wing) experience gain, reflecting the impact of one of the largest air training programs in history.

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Of these, all are part of the free rework except for those that rely on paid features; i.e. ASW Warfare, Expand the Repair Yards, Vanguard, and Anti-Non-Contact Committee will not be available without the DLC.

Map changes

The map changes dev diary had a lot of suggestions from the community, and I worked through a number of them (too many to list), but I will mention the most important here.

A number of new tags were added:

Mauritania
Namibia
Western Sahara (Sahrawi Arab Democratic Republic)
British Antilles
French Guyana
Maldives
Fiji/Melanesia
Slovenia
Bosnia
Macedonia
Northern Ireland

To accomodate Mauritania, the western-most impassable state has been made passable, allowing armies to move down into subsaharan Africa both in Egypt in the east, as well as in the west.

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Namibia has been added due to popular request, and the Caprivi strip has been fixed.

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The Balkans have been further… balkanized, and the states for Montenegro and Macedonia have been adjusted.

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Thanks to an initiative by @Tristan Edge, a large number of victory points have been adjusted and/or added.

A lot of VP adjustments happened to:
Greece, Turkey, Portugal, Mexico, Poland, Czechoslovakia, European Russia

Other VP adjustments happened to:
Spain, France, USA, Germany, Italy, China, Siberia

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Sneak preview of the new VPs in Western Poland

Also, when adding new tags, I put in an effort to ensure all releasable tags have at least one victory point (their capital). This has seen a dramatic increase in the amount of victory points in Africa, the Caribbean, and some in Asia.

Finally, some naval zones have been split up to make better use of the new naval terrain, as well as making for more interesting strategic choices with your navy. One example here: the Aegean.

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Don't forget to check out the stream today at 4PM CET, where Gabriel and Niall (Daniel is unfortunately the victim of biological warfare today) will be continuing with their communist Mexico playthrough. We'll see you guys next week, for a new dev diary! :)

Rejected titles

- Yet another focus tree about the German Kaiser
- My Conquest is the Sea of Victory Points
- HOI4: Now with 200% more balkanization
- Installing Democracies has never been so easy
- Issuing the HoI4 community challenge: Western Sahara World Conquest
- The "People Actually Live Here Now"-update
 

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I am surprised that the UK cannot get a national spirit for faster capital ship production. They built dreadnought in fourteen months and had the most extensive experience in construction.

Indeed Fisher conceived of the Battle Cruiser to defend the shipping lanes from commerce raiders. It would make sense to give the UK the option to try this path...
 

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Great stuff (although that Wilhelmism is absolute bonkers, but in a fun way). I see you fixed that province in Slovenia that should have belonged to Austria. Finally!
 

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Really, REALLY NICE.
I love the fact, that even though things are being announced, you guys still have time to do corrections along the way.
Do we finally have a launch date?
 

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Even though this was just a Bag of Tricks dev diary, it was one of my favorite dev diaries. Great job, all of these changes are excellent.
 

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Awesome diary! Great job. What tweaks did you make to the focuses I mentioned in the UK diary thread - is it possible to mention those? e.g. the Singapore/Hong Kong focuses, Balkan Strategy, Influence China... I see some of the other suggestions made it though, which is great.

Hope those 'heavy aircraft' aircraft tech bonus tags got replaced too.

Hope Sedan is among your new French VPs. :p

This is all great stuff, although honestly the Wilhelmism thing is... well, ridiculous. Artistic licence though, I guess. ;)

Will 100% be banned in MP though. I'd tone that one down a bit...
 

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Balkanized Balkans at long last.¨Cheers for Bosnia! Dream coming true




 

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A final focus has been added to give a sort of ‘endgame’. Wilhelminism revolves around a cunning plot to use the German Kaiser (in exile in Huis Doorn in the Netherlands since the end of the First World War) to attract German deserters, and incite an insurrection to weaken the German position. This focus periodically spawns free divisions comprised of German deserters, while also giving Germany a National Spirit draining their manpower. Once any German territory has been ‘liberated’ by the Netherlands, an actual civil war kicks off in Germany, where the Kaiser (or his son, if he died) leads a rebellion (headquartered in the territory you just liberated) to put the von Hohenzollerns back on the German throne. This civil war nation exists as a puppet of the Netherlands, and so can be supported by you.
Devious.

I like it.


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Soooo.....Anti-Submarine Warfare Warfare?
 

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@Bratyn



Hrm. In the last DDs is thought, that there is no difference between researching Hulls of Light or Heavy Cruisers. And the only difference depends on how our setup of the hulll is managed. I'm confused! :D
 

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Correction: I think you mean Slovenia for your list of new tags. Slovakia is already a tag, and exists in 1939. Please get their flags the right way round also. :D
 

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Soooo.....Anti-Submarine Warfare Warfare?
Exactly! When in doubt, add more warfare!


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Correction: I think you mean Slovenia for your list of new tags. Slovakia is already a tag, and exists in 1939. Please get their flags the right way round also. :D
I did indeed - I copied the list from an old doc that still had my mistake in it. It has since been caught ;)
 

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@Bratyn I've noticed a clause for when Germany goes for the Kaiserreich. What does the NF do then? It makes little sense for it to cripple the Reich then
You cash in the goodwill you've incurred by keeping the Kaiser safe for 20 years and request to join their faction :)
 

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Hrm. In the last DDs is thought, that there is no difference between researching Hulls of Light or Heavy Cruisers. And the only difference depends on how our setup of the hulll is managed. I'm confused! :D
It depends on the template. The game 'recognizes' which templates would be a light cruiser and which would be a heavy cruiser (or so I am told by @Archangel85 :p )
 

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You cash in the goodwill you've incurred by keeping the Kaiser safe for 20 years and request to join their faction :)
Just that or is there anything more? I can see the possibility for a cash gift, something like lower consumer goods penalty or off-map factories, or maybe even doctrine bonuses! As it is the NF will be mostly redundant by the time the player gets to it
 

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Last time I was this early to a DD that lets you carve up the Balkans something something Hotzendorf.
 

man0lo

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Good news ... they keep on doing great job
Bad news ... we will not have it by Christmas

PS: I cant play HOI IV without the addition of fuel ... any more