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Hi and welcome to another diary! I am home sick today, so this gives me something to do (besides suffering)! Today it’s time for another Bag of Tricks diary where we cover a couple of features that aren’t necessarily connected. Two of these do fit quite well with the expansions sub-theme of fleshing out democracies. Lets dig right in!

Expeditionary Force Requests
The Allies are made up of many nations and coordinating them can be difficult. To help with this Man the Guns adds the ability to request expeditionary forces from multiple nations directly when organizing your forces.
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The AI will respond immediately and assign the troops to your plan if it approves. That means you can control how they get there, should you wish it.

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It is also possible to request expeditionaries straight from an empty army. To do that click the new expeditionary army button at the bottom of the new army button:
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Useful if you have no units in an area, but an ally i your faction does. Then you could draw a plan there and tell them what to do. AI will prefer picking troops close to the plan if they can.

The AI is pretty helpful, but will not give you more than it can spare and still ensure its home areas are safe. It will also be a bit watchful, so if you always send them ahead to die you might find that it doesn’t want to hand over as much troops anymore. Depending on what plan you draw up it will also try to send suitable units. So marines for invasions for example. This means that for the AI to know if and what it should send you must first draw up the plan before sending your request.

Note that I am talking about AI here. This action isn't available towards players. It's just a lot simpler to talk to each other and use existing expeditionary sending for that.

To be able to request expeditionaries, you must either be the faction leader (which with MTG can now change from whoever created the faction), or have subject nations as the action is also available for those. The action is available for all ideologies, but we think it fits the democratic theme the most considering the plethora of smaller nations banded together against the axis.


Supervised State
Supervised States are a new autonomy level in MTG. Designed to let democracies do puppeting in a way that suits them better, and ensures the targeted nations can't just turn around and go against them.

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West Germany is here a supervised state set up by the British. A supervised state is not particularly oppressive, but does come with restrictions.
  • The nation is locked into masters faction.
  • They will ideologically drift towards master, and can not use other ideology ministers to affect things.
  • The master will be able to get some cheaper trade and more trade access.
A Supervised state is essentially on a timer, as they will also slowly regain autonomy, so you can not really keep them a subject forever. They also do not have any other steps and go directly to Free once they are autonomous enough. At this point restrictions drop and they are free to leave factions etc.


On-map decisions
This one is something I’ve been wanting as soon as I noticed that people wanted to be able to do state based or decisions with location. Often the interesting part of a decision is where, and huge lists of states isn't all that nice to scroll through. We actually had to restrict some stuff for Waking the Tiger because the list of states would have become unmanageable otherwise. To deal with that the 1.6 Ironclad update will also make decisions available on map as long as you have the decisions view open. Some are simply mirrored, so you can pick them in either the list or on the map, and some are only on the map. A good example of the second type is the Blackshirt Marches when turning UK towards fascism. A lot of different states with different costs make for overwhelming choice, but on the map it is quite easy to see both where and how costly they are.

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Here is one of the prospecting decisions, already activated, if you control Nigeria:
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And @Bratyn 's favorite, activating the flooding defenses of Netherlands, directly on the map!

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See you all next week and don’t miss out on the stream at 16:00 CET for more United Kingdom gameplay.

Rejected Titles:
- "Commonwealth, assemble!"
- HOI4, now with less giant decision lists of places you secretly don't know where they are but are too embarrassed to ask
- CLICK ALL THE THINGS
- What do you mean “A slightly less oppressed chess piece” isn’t clear art direction?
- FEATURE: Britain can now accurately represent the brilliant idea that was the Dieppe Raid
- Deliberately flooding your country is now 200% easier
- Click ~here~ to become fascist
- We are running out of chess pieces for autonomy level
- Winston Churchill has a BRILLIANT IDEA and only needs a few Colonials to do it..
- Clickbait
 
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For modders who are wondering, the decisions on map work automatically as long as you pick a state for highlighting. If you want to do it like the Blackshirt marches and have a category hiding all the choices you will need to specify that extra
 

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oh wow. you are right. I shall summon moderator powers
 

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Are you going to be adding a mechanic to remove national spirits that flip ideologies? One of my biggest complaints with the game is when you go and puppet a nation of the opposing ideology, they just flip back to it in a few years because of the spirits. I get that they won't be able to change when they are supervised states, but afterwards they flip back. As well, if I'm reading this right, supervised states are limited to democracies. At least thats what I gather from reading the DD, I could be wrong. That means there is no way for communists and fascists to set up proper puppet governments without them flipping ideology quickly.
 

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You could always add checkers pieces for the autonomy level... :D
 

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Are you going to be adding a mechanic to remove national spirits that flip ideologies? One of my biggest complaints with the game is when you go and puppet a nation of the opposing ideology, they just flip back to it in a few years because of the spirits. I get that they won't be able to change when they are supervised states, but afterwards they flip back. As well, if I'm reading this right, supervised states are limited to democracies. At least thats what I gather from reading the DD, I could be wrong. That means there is no way for communists and fascists to set up proper puppet governments without them flipping ideology quickly.
we are looking into various issues with drift you cant stop. will talk about it when done :)
 

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Can you annex a supervised state? They look to be easy to annex unless the autonomy gain is ridiculously fast.
 

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Expeditionary Force Requests
The Allies are made up of many nations and coordinating them can be difficult. To help with this Man the Guns adds the ability to request expeditionary forces from multiple nations directly when organizing your forces.
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The AI will respond immediately and assign the troops to your plan if it approves. That means you can control how they get there, should you wish it.
@podcat There is a long term bug (reported in bugforum), when I can ask my allies in TfV for lend lease, which usually my allies confirm and immediately stop sending stuff. Would it be fixed please in MtG?
 

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Speaking of autonomy levels, could you clarify why rules for almost all puppets read
"{Red Cross} Can not declare wars" (see screenshot)

Red crosses are supposed to negate the statement that come after it. In that case, it essentially means that it can declare wars. But that's not true!
 

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Will on-map decisions be applied to the WTT content? E.g. Political competition in China?
They are backwards compatible automatically, but we will probably not add content that was cut in WtT because we didn't have this technology.
 

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Does this mean that you'll be making it harder for certain nations to be completely puppeted (ie, Can't make Germany disappear after the war) in the post war peace conference?
 

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Get better, podcat and great work shown in this dev diary! I'm excited to finally play a Democratic run in Hoi4 with this expansion as normally its pretty bland otherwise... (unless you have a mod that basically enables a lot of stuff; but then again, thats a mod)