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HOI4 Dev Diary - 4th Anniversary

Hi everyone! This week is Hearts of Iron IVs 4th anniversary. I’ve got some cool data to share with you, new armor and radio packs as well as patch for you to celebrate! All of this releases tomorrow :)

A Look Back & Cool Numbers
It's crazy how Hearts of Iron keeps growing. I personally started with playing HOI2, and worked on HOI3 as a coder and game director on HOI4, and while people still call it a niche experience for WW2 buffs, it has also grown to be so much more (or us WW2 nerds are more numerous than we think :D). Around La Résistance release we clocked a new record on monthly players of 899k (the 1000 of you that didn't log in that month are responsible for my OCD flaring up!). HOI4 is quite unique in how stable the growth is. Most games that aren't multiplayer or the like usually has big dips between releases. I think the two big factors that keeps us so stable is the replayability as well as the amazing mods that keep updating giving people new stuff to play with continuously :) Here is what the curve has looked like over the years:
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I also took a look at country popularity between the last year and the release year. These are the top 10 nations currently with comparison to 2016:
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Most see relative reductions here because we have in general made a lot more nations playable with more focus trees and other improvements (in 2016 Poland had Hungary's spot while now its pushed below both Spain and Hungary). There are a couple of obvious increases who all seem to come from focus tree changes also :)



Allied Armor Pack
Tomorrow we also release the followup to last years Axis Armor Pack, this time for the allies. This includes 45 armored vehicles for USA, UK, France and Soviets. On top of this we also add in 32 tanks from the Colonel Edition for those nations also for a total of 77 :) This is one of the reasons that we stopped selling the Colonel Edition last month - it was making it messy to buy cosmetic packs and we didn't want to split stuff up further. To make sure previous colonel edition players don't feel like they get as much, and also because its been such a great year for HOI4, we will be giving the whole pack for free to all those who had the Field Marshal. or Colonel Editions Enjoy!
(the observant players may remember that there is some ships in the colonel edition also, people who have that will keep them but they are not included in this armor pack. We will sort those boat boys out in the future).

Below are some examples of vehicles included:
allied_armor.png


Allied Speeches
People seemed to like the radio addition last year, but this year we wanted to test something a bit different and more tied to gameplay. We have added 70 minutes of speeches from allied leaders and commanders, set them to music and trigger them based on ingame events. So for example when Japan declares war on USA you will be able to hear Roosevelt deliver his "a date which will live in infamy" speech.
Here is a sample using one of Churchill's more famous speeches to give you an feeling for how it will sound:

Its a great feeling when they kick in and adds some really nice historical flavor :) Note also that they are playable like any other tracks should you want to.

1.9.3 Patch
For this patch we wanted to focus on naval issues and improvements as we didn't touch that very much for La Résistance. To summarize the most important changes:

Naval tech rebalance
It's best to check the changelog for details here, but our goal has been to make tech investments into more efficient submarines more expensive and sub countering and investments into capital ships cheaper.

Convoys and stun-locking
A very annoying strategy in multiple and sometimes in SP has been being able to essentially stun lock an enemies transports of troops in place at sea by lots of small naval engagements with submarines. Even if well screened they still need to wait to retreat and then would get caught again and again, sometimes taking months to get across the atlantic. To deal with this we have increased the retreat speed bonuses from being well screened and also implemented a cooldown system. This system will give transports a cooldown after being caught where they can not be re-spotted again. The length of it depends on the length of their path as well as how well screened they are. For an unscreened vessel they will be caught pretty quickly in more interceptions while a properly screened one can continue on until the invasion beach if its not too far.

Carriers and other naval changes
Carriers in the pacific really struggle with the large air zones and the weather penalties. It didn't make sense to us to apply the area size penalties to a mobile base with so few planes, so now any mission targeting a specific location (port strike, CAS etc) for planes stationed on a carrier will not have this penalty.

On top of this it didn't make sense to have carriers planes suffer a 100% penalty from bad weather when land based ones had a much smaller one. While I doubt any planes could take off during a really bad storm, it makes little sense when we only really have one level of weather here to make it so brutal, so this penalty has been reduced to 80%. We also felt that if the weather is truly this bad guns really should be struggling more than they do as well as doubled that penalty to 20% to close the gap.

Carriers now also help the fleet overall. The side with the carrier plane advantage in the battle will penalize positioning of the other side, similar a bit in spirit to the effects of air superiority on land. We also made light guns a bit worse and buffed targeting and power of bigger guns to try and strengthen mixed fleets. We have also increased the base detection abilities of carriers a bit to better model how important they were for spotting enemies at sea.

Another thing of note is that we have fixed an annoying interaction between air superiority and naval spotting. Because air superiority applies on average on the zones a task force was operating you could shield them with planes in a zone they were not even in, which might be somewhere your enemy couldn't even reach and contest. Now it will be looking at the specific area they are in instead.

Out Of Syncs
Telemetry was telling us that the vast majority of out of syncs were happening in the first half of 1936, and for weeks we simply could not reproduce this inhouse, but recently we had a breakthrough. We found some data related to technologies that was not properly reset when entering a new game and this is hopefully the core reason for this. We will be looking at telemetry data to hopefully see the OOS frequency take a nose dive, because this stuff is truly hard for us to test fully ourselves, but we are optimistic!

Expand here to see the full patch log:
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# Balance
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- decreased suppression value of SP-Art battalions
- decreased suppression value of SP-AA battalions
- decreased suppression value of SP-AT battalions
- decreased research cost on destroyer hulls
- decreased research cost on depth charge technologies
- increased research cost on 1940 and 1944 submarine hulls
- increased research cost on torpedo module upgrades
- decreased research cost of naval munitions upgrades for light and heavy guns
- decreased research cost of armor schemes
- increased the cost of initial radar tech, lowered cost on all other radar techs
- decreased IC cost of all ship heavy batteries
- increased damage of all heavy ship batteries
- increased piercing of all medium ship batteries
- increased damage of all medium ship batteries
- Carrier planes no longer take area coverage penalties on their targeted/ground missions
- Increased carrier hull surface detection base from 20 to 26
- Added a cooldown timer after naval transfers are engaged at sea and escape to avoid stun-locking issues with many small fleets. The cooldown depends on the screening efficiency of the defenders so a defended convoy will have a longer cooldown the better defended it is
- Added an extra speed boost to convoys retreat speed when screened
- Effective carrier plane advantage in naval combat now gives penalties to positioning for the other side
- Increased air-to-air damage factor in carrier battles from 5 to 6
- increase air attack targeting scoring for carriers to make them more likely targets for other carriers
- increased naval hit penalty from 10% to 20% in heavy rain
- reduced carrier traffic penalty from 100% to 80% in heavy rain
- Reduce heavy gun target signature from 90 to 80 and increased light gun target signature from 40 to 45 to make heavy guns a bit more versatile and light guns a bit slower at picking off screens
- Patrol convoy raiding and convoy escort missions now rely on local navy position for air superiority rather than average of air zones to stop high air superiority in a zone from saving the ships from spotting in another.


##################################
# Stability & Performance
##################################
- Fixed OOS related to asking an operative to resume their mission after the operation they are assigned to completes
- Fixed OOS linked to technologies not being properly reset between games
- Fixed OOS triggered by a country asking for manpower after a civil war
- Prevented crash when trying to respond to faction invite from a faction that no longer exists
- fixed a ctd that happens when a non-existing capitulated country checks for uncapitulation


##################################
# Modding
##################################
- Added play_song and scoped_play_song effects
- added on_war_relation_added on action (scope is attacker, from is defender)
- Made targeting weights for air-to-ship in naval combat moddable. See NAVAL_COMBAT_AIR_*_TARGET_SCORE defines.


##################################
# Bugfix
##################################
- Updated the forum link in main menu to match the new forum
- Bulgaria will no longer start with Flexible Navy focus completed in 1939

So what are we up to now?
We have been wanting to shorten the time between content update for a while and are going to take a serious stab at it now. That means that we are currently working on two things at once in parallel actually. In the pipe we have 1.10 ‘Collie as well as 1.11 Barbarossa. That's about as much information as I can give you right now. We are not yet ready to start dev diaries on ‘Collie’ but look forward to it some time after summer vacation. We have some massively awesome stuff planned and I think you are all gonna like it (if people wanna see the roadmap, it was last updated in this dev diary).

As part of the anniversary we are also doing a really cool new take on the 3-day war stream with influencers vs devs and... democracy?
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Check out details here!


aaaand thats it from me! Hope you will like the updates and everything else tomorrow!
 
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they would have to put skins and historical 2d and 3D images for the transport planes of the main countries like Junkers 52 Germans or DC3 Douglas North Americans
 
If you wanna have more Speeches there is a Mod for it, which workes like the Speeches the Devs brought in. I have him installed since it comes out for Version 1.9.

So Games everytime a consens between the Worldwide Laws and special Laws from seperate Countrys. That´s the Problem with historical Games (like Hearts of Iron). Cool thing is, that the Devs and their Freelancers make the Hearts of Iron-Series as autentical they can with the Law- ect. Limitations.

And what they can´t do they work togehter with the Modders which give us the other 30 to 40 % of that. I use Mods which make the Game autenthier when I get the Chance. And in Hoi 4 I use many Mods to get the History autentic as good as possible.
 
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It doesn't matter what they put in the middle, the flag will be ugly as sin. The design is honestly just so bad you'd think Hitler was a failed artist or something. I'd much rather they stick to the current good looking flag.
The design may not be pretty but it's effective in its objective, so it's a good design.
 
Then it will be to unoverseeable like in Hoi 2 and 3. That´s exactly what the Devs wanna avoid. They need the normal Players, which are 90 to 95% of the Gamers and not only Experts which only are 5 to 10% of the Gamers. Only Experts don´t bring in the Money, so a compromise between this 2 Groups have to be found. And Hoi 4 make it very good.

The Devs are overworking the Supply system, but not so unoverseeable like in Hoi 2 or 3. We will know it in Patch 1.10 "Collie" or 1.11 "Barbarossa" where it fits in very good what the Devs wanna bring in in Supply-Refit..
 
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I did it in HOI3, but it never felt right to give such strong bonuses out of nowhere which is why we avoided them for HOI4. I like the idea of comeback mechanics but I prefer them to tie into something real. As an example: rather than boosting the soviet counter attack you can penalize attackers through weather or the like in a non-linear manner
I agree with weather, but think the biggest factor in bogging down an offensive should be supplies!
It'd work both in Russia and in China.
 
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The Bogging down of an Offensive with Supplys is there already. It´s the Infrastructure (Harbors, Railways / Streets), blocking by Enemy forces, Ressistance, Sabotage and so on. Let your Generals do their Job and you see it perfectly working, esp. in China, Poland and such special Countrys where the Infrastructure isn´t good.

Short said: It´s already there and working perfectly.

Fast clicking and rushing can do everyone, what most of you are doing and there you can´t see the Supply Problems. POINT!
 
I think it should be new to put 3d skins for the vehicles of communist China somewhat similar to the Soviet models.

Also Sinkiang should have the same skins as the rest of the Chinese warlords
 
Collie might involve naval tweaks and perhaps the introduction of trees for French Indochina, Dutch East Indies, British Malaya, and Siam. All their overlords have trees and could interact with them. It would add new alternative history paths for the game in a region that hasn't been touched since Waking the Tiger. Siam participated in the war and there is a current trend of giving trees to regional minors with potential. FI would be about Vietnamese independence, DEI would be about Indonesian independence, and BM would be about Malaysian independence. In theory they could help each other out and form a bloc against the Japanese and Europeans.
I agree and advocate that some day that the Southeast Asian countries should be worked and have their own trees as they are very powerful countries for the theme of that area.
 
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When does Swedish summer vacation end? I wish I got vacation in my job but I live in the United States. Temps get no vacation in my job. And regulars only get 5 weeks after like 10 years of service.
 
Yesterday I played as the UK and created the Imperial Federation and found some issues in 1.9+. India does not have any compliance, which does not make sense since they agreed to the federation proposal, and also Transvaal, South Africa is not a core which it should be.
 
I think we will get a new Patch and DLC this year. Podcat mentiond after the last 2 big Patches and DLC´s (1 Year Rhytm with 1.8 and MtG and 1.9 with La Ressistance), that they wanna do some 1/2 year ones with Patches and DLC´s again to upgrade the Game like in the first Steps.

But I have the Feeling, that won´t integrate the big announced rework for the Army R & D, Groundbattles etc. Therfore they need a big one like for 1.8 or 1.9 incl. DLC.

Patch 1.10 "Collie" will have some new Focus-Trees (for the not done Colonies in Asia for France, UK, USA, Netherlands, Japan etc. and if we get lucky the Overwork in the Mediteranen with Italy. The Airforce Rework in R & D included.

Patch 1.11 "Barbarossa" then for the forgotten East-Block-Staates-Focuses as well as Scandinavia, rework of UdSSR and Poland-Focuses, rework of Supply-Delivery (a little bit more possibilitys to change the Routes) and such. But the big Rework for the Army I don´t see in this Patch.

And some other Surprises, we don´t know yet. If the Codenames for the Patches are correct interpreted.
 
Hi everyone! This week is Hearts of Iron IVs 4th anniversary. I’ve got some cool data to share with you, new armor and radio packs as well as patch for you to celebrate! All of this releases tomorrow :)

A Look Back & Cool Numbers
It's crazy how Hearts of Iron keeps growing. I personally started with playing HOI2, and worked on HOI3 as a coder and game director on HOI4, and while people still call it a niche experience for WW2 buffs, it has also grown to be so much more (or us WW2 nerds are more numerous than we think :D). Around La Résistance release we clocked a new record on monthly players of 899k (the 1000 of you that didn't log in that month are responsible for my OCD flaring up!). HOI4 is quite unique in how stable the growth is. Most games that aren't multiplayer or the like usually has big dips between releases. I think the two big factors that keeps us so stable is the replayability as well as the amazing mods that keep updating giving people new stuff to play with continuously :) Here is what the curve has looked like over the years:
View attachment 584547

I also took a look at country popularity between the last year and the release year. These are the top 10 nations currently with comparison to 2016:
View attachment 584311
Most see relative reductions here because we have in general made a lot more nations playable with more focus trees and other improvements (in 2016 Poland had Hungary's spot while now its pushed below both Spain and Hungary). There are a couple of obvious increases who all seem to come from focus tree changes also :)



Allied Armor Pack
Tomorrow we also release the followup to last years Axis Armor Pack, this time for the allies. This includes 45 armored vehicles for USA, UK, France and Soviets. On top of this we also add in 32 tanks from the Colonel Edition for those nations also for a total of 77 :) This is one of the reasons that we stopped selling the Colonel Edition last month - it was making it messy to buy cosmetic packs and we didn't want to split stuff up further. To make sure previous colonel edition players don't feel like they get as much, and also because its been such a great year for HOI4, we will be giving the whole pack for free to all those who had the Field Marshal. or Colonel Editions Enjoy!
(the observant players may remember that there is some ships in the colonel edition also, people who have that will keep them but they are not included in this armor pack. We will sort those boat boys out in the future).

Below are some examples of vehicles included:
View attachment 584179

Allied Speeches
People seemed to like the radio addition last year, but this year we wanted to test something a bit different and more tied to gameplay. We have added 70 minutes of speeches from allied leaders and commanders, set them to music and trigger them based on ingame events. So for example when Japan declares war on USA you will be able to hear Roosevelt deliver his "a date which will live in infamy" speech.
Here is a sample using one of Churchill's more famous speeches to give you an feeling for how it will sound:

Its a great feeling when they kick in and adds some really nice historical flavor :) Note also that they are playable like any other tracks should you want to.

1.9.3 Patch
For this patch we wanted to focus on naval issues and improvements as we didn't touch that very much for La Résistance. To summarize the most important changes:

Naval tech rebalance
It's best to check the changelog for details here, but our goal has been to make tech investments into more efficient submarines more expensive and sub countering and investments into capital ships cheaper.

Convoys and stun-locking
A very annoying strategy in multiple and sometimes in SP has been being able to essentially stun lock an enemies transports of troops in place at sea by lots of small naval engagements with submarines. Even if well screened they still need to wait to retreat and then would get caught again and again, sometimes taking months to get across the atlantic. To deal with this we have increased the retreat speed bonuses from being well screened and also implemented a cooldown system. This system will give transports a cooldown after being caught where they can not be re-spotted again. The length of it depends on the length of their path as well as how well screened they are. For an unscreened vessel they will be caught pretty quickly in more interceptions while a properly screened one can continue on until the invasion beach if its not too far.

Carriers and other naval changes
Carriers in the pacific really struggle with the large air zones and the weather penalties. It didn't make sense to us to apply the area size penalties to a mobile base with so few planes, so now any mission targeting a specific location (port strike, CAS etc) for planes stationed on a carrier will not have this penalty.

On top of this it didn't make sense to have carriers planes suffer a 100% penalty from bad weather when land based ones had a much smaller one. While I doubt any planes could take off during a really bad storm, it makes little sense when we only really have one level of weather here to make it so brutal, so this penalty has been reduced to 80%. We also felt that if the weather is truly this bad guns really should be struggling more than they do as well as doubled that penalty to 20% to close the gap.

Carriers now also help the fleet overall. The side with the carrier plane advantage in the battle will penalize positioning of the other side, similar a bit in spirit to the effects of air superiority on land. We also made light guns a bit worse and buffed targeting and power of bigger guns to try and strengthen mixed fleets. We have also increased the base detection abilities of carriers a bit to better model how important they were for spotting enemies at sea.

Another thing of note is that we have fixed an annoying interaction between air superiority and naval spotting. Because air superiority applies on average on the zones a task force was operating you could shield them with planes in a zone they were not even in, which might be somewhere your enemy couldn't even reach and contest. Now it will be looking at the specific area they are in instead.

Out Of Syncs
Telemetry was telling us that the vast majority of out of syncs were happening in the first half of 1936, and for weeks we simply could not reproduce this inhouse, but recently we had a breakthrough. We found some data related to technologies that was not properly reset when entering a new game and this is hopefully the core reason for this. We will be looking at telemetry data to hopefully see the OOS frequency take a nose dive, because this stuff is truly hard for us to test fully ourselves, but we are optimistic!

Expand here to see the full patch log:
################################################################
######## Hotfix 1.9.3 "Husky" ########
################################################################

##################################
# Balance
##################################
- decreased suppression value of SP-Art battalions
- decreased suppression value of SP-AA battalions
- decreased suppression value of SP-AT battalions
- decreased research cost on destroyer hulls
- decreased research cost on depth charge technologies
- increased research cost on 1940 and 1944 submarine hulls
- increased research cost on torpedo module upgrades
- decreased research cost of naval munitions upgrades for light and heavy guns
- decreased research cost of armor schemes
- increased the cost of initial radar tech, lowered cost on all other radar techs
- decreased IC cost of all ship heavy batteries
- increased damage of all heavy ship batteries
- increased piercing of all medium ship batteries
- increased damage of all medium ship batteries
- Carrier planes no longer take area coverage penalties on their targeted/ground missions
- Increased carrier hull surface detection base from 20 to 26
- Added a cooldown timer after naval transfers are engaged at sea and escape to avoid stun-locking issues with many small fleets. The cooldown depends on the screening efficiency of the defenders so a defended convoy will have a longer cooldown the better defended it is
- Added an extra speed boost to convoys retreat speed when screened
- Effective carrier plane advantage in naval combat now gives penalties to positioning for the other side
- Increased air-to-air damage factor in carrier battles from 5 to 6
- increase air attack targeting scoring for carriers to make them more likely targets for other carriers
- increased naval hit penalty from 10% to 20% in heavy rain
- reduced carrier traffic penalty from 100% to 80% in heavy rain
- Reduce heavy gun target signature from 90 to 80 and increased light gun target signature from 40 to 45 to make heavy guns a bit more versatile and light guns a bit slower at picking off screens
- Patrol convoy raiding and convoy escort missions now rely on local navy position for air superiority rather than average of air zones to stop high air superiority in a zone from saving the ships from spotting in another.


##################################
# Stability & Performance
##################################
- Fixed OOS related to asking an operative to resume their mission after the operation they are assigned to completes
- Fixed OOS linked to technologies not being properly reset between games
- Fixed OOS triggered by a country asking for manpower after a civil war
- Prevented crash when trying to respond to faction invite from a faction that no longer exists
- fixed a ctd that happens when a non-existing capitulated country checks for uncapitulation


##################################
# Modding
##################################
- Added play_song and scoped_play_song effects
- added on_war_relation_added on action (scope is attacker, from is defender)
- Made targeting weights for air-to-ship in naval combat moddable. See NAVAL_COMBAT_AIR_*_TARGET_SCORE defines.


##################################
# Bugfix
##################################
- Updated the forum link in main menu to match the new forum
- Bulgaria will no longer start with Flexible Navy focus completed in 1939

So what are we up to now?
We have been wanting to shorten the time between content update for a while and are going to take a serious stab at it now. That means that we are currently working on two things at once in parallel actually. In the pipe we have 1.10 ‘Collie as well as 1.11 Barbarossa. That's about as much information as I can give you right now. We are not yet ready to start dev diaries on ‘Collie’ but look forward to it some time after summer vacation. We have some massively awesome stuff planned and I think you are all gonna like it (if people wanna see the roadmap, it was last updated in this dev diary).

As part of the anniversary we are also doing a really cool new take on the 3-day war stream with influencers vs devs and... democracy?
View attachment 584380
Check out details here!

aaaand thats it from me! Hope you will like the updates and everything else tomorrow!


Probably the biggest reason that human players have a large advantage over the AI is that human players have this type of god mode view of the battlefield and can issues orders to divisions one hour, and then two hours later, change the order to a completely different order, paying no real penalty for the new decision. In real life, this wasn't possible. If Churchill ordered his land forces from Egypt to Greece to support the Greeks, this decision was made after an incredible amount of deliberation and planning. Sure, the the order could have been cancelled or changed, but such changes would have taken at a minimum, hours to get to the right people, who would then need to communicate those orders to many other people and so on and so forth. It would have cause massive disorganization and disruption to alter the plan.

The game takes this into account now, but the penalty is about 20% as strong as it needs to be. It's only very serious with naval embarkations and strategic redeployment. I believe Paradox should expand the command power greatly, and that changing orders quickly should result in a loss of command power. I think army divisions should be given times to attack well in advance of the attack, similar to HOI2. I believe there should be much greater consequences for deploying your forces in a poor way or launching a bad attack. The game should try to emulate the decision making of heads of state back in WWII, and right now, instead, the game more closely emulates what it would be like to be an all knowing, all powerful god in charge of millions of men, with direct communication to all said men.

Thanks!
 
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I think the AI sees more than the Human Player. You need Minimum 1 Division on some Country Border for only 1 Country. If not possible Radar or Air-Recon.

Or do you mean anything else?
 
I have the Field Marshal edition but I’ve not received the new Allied Armour Pack, when is this meant to happen exactly?

Did you check the "Owned DLC" section of the game in your library? The game's store page says I don't own the pack despite the list of owned DLC saying I do, it's a problem I hope they fix soon to stop people from spending money on something they already own.