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Collie might involve naval tweaks and perhaps the introduction of trees for French Indochina, Dutch East Indies, British Malaya, and Siam. All their overlords have trees and could interact with them. It would add new alternative history paths for the game in a region that hasn't been touched since Waking the Tiger. Siam participated in the war and there is a current trend of giving trees to regional minors with potential. FI would be about Vietnamese independence, DEI would be about Indonesian independence, and BM would be about Malaysian independence. In theory they could help each other out and form a bloc against the Japanese and Europeans.

Barbarossa would be about the invasion of the USSR and all parties involved. Since Italy was involved, they could see a rework so it would both them and the USSR would get updated. Poland by proxy would be updated as well and Finland would get its own tree. This rework may see logistic changes that PI's roadmap talked about.

Bulgaria, Greece, and Turkey may come for 1.12 and for 1.13 it may be Latin America's turn with trees for Brazil and Argentina. Two countries is a bit small so they might throw in something like Iran to go along with it.
 

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Because 2.0 usually is reserved for major game overhauls of multiple mechanics, essentially completely changing large parts of the game, while continuing with 1.10 and 1.11 means we will not have any large game overhaul updates anytime soon, so it's entirely possible for HoI IV to still do 2.0 eventually, just not now or in the near future

2.0 might be a post-war expansion when everything is exhausted already. By the time we get there, the game should have all sorts of mechanics that could translate into proxy wars and wars of independence.
 
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Video Games can not be seen as ''propoganda''.
I have the German version of the game and all "Nazi" stuff is omitted. The laws are strict in Germany. It's the content that counts not where it is used.
 

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I have the German version of the game and all "Nazi" stuff is omitted. The laws are strict in Germany. It's the content that counts not where it is used.
I have read that indeed German laws have changed. However, since the law is new, no companies have idea how it actually work, so the risk (of legal and reputation costs) of putting in Nazi stuff is just not worth taking
 

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I have read that indeed German laws have changed. However, since the law is new, no companies have idea how it actually work, so the risk (of legal and reputation costs) of putting in Nazi stuff is just not worth taking
New to me. Do you remember where you read it?
 

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Should have subtitles for those.
Yeah no, I play games to play, not to read rough translations for 10 minutes long, because that's how long the speeches are. If you want subtitles go watch the speech on youtube or something with subtitles, I don't need more clutter on the screen.
 
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2.0 might be a post-war expansion when everything is exhausted already. By the time we get there, the game should have all sorts of mechanics that could translate into proxy wars and wars of independence.
Ideally post-war is something we see, I don't see the need to wait for post-war to have 2.0 though, they might want to revise WWII stuff too, many countries that have already been worked on need to be touched up again, in particular the TfV, DoD and WtT. We'll see what they do when we get there.
 

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Yeah it was changed and there was a big discussion on the forums about PDX putting stuff in for the German version. I don't think we'll see the now unbanned Nazis stuff being put into HoI IV but I can see HoI V one day having it, I just hope other games do it too, I'm tired of seeing Wehrmacht, Heer, Lufftwaffe, Kriegsmarine, made up flags or even the black, red and gold triclour from the democratic days being used for Nazis Germany.
 

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Yeah it was changed and there was a big discussion on the forums about PDX putting stuff in for the German version. I don't think we'll see the now unbanned Nazis stuff being put into HoI IV but I can see HoI V one day having it, I just hope other games do it too, I'm tired of seeing Wehrmacht, Heer, Lufftwaffe, Kriegsmarine, made up flags or even the black, red and gold triclour from the democratic days being used for Nazis Germany.
They can easily add pictures of Hitler & Co to their portraits....
 

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Yeah it was changed and there was a big discussion on the forums about PDX putting stuff in for the German version. I don't think we'll see the now unbanned Nazis stuff being put into HoI IV but I can see HoI V one day having it, I just hope other games do it too, I'm tired of seeing Wehrmacht, Heer, Lufftwaffe, Kriegsmarine, made up flags or even the black, red and gold triclour from the democratic days being used for Nazis Germany.
Besides the association with bad things of the historical flag, and the tendency to attract neonazis like flies, it's just super ugly. It's just so incredibly red that it isn't nice to look at. I much prefer the one we have in game as it's easier on the eyes and better designed.
 

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2.0 might be a post-war expansion when everything is exhausted already. By the time we get there, the game should have all sorts of mechanics that could translate into proxy wars and wars of independence.
You really need to fix the economy or else it gets super silly. Money cause well while there's an (not that good) argument that it didn't matter that much during the war and the build up - it definitely mattered once it was over. In HOI4 however you can build Carriers and Battleships like there's no tomorrow at any date - Maginot lines everywhere and lvl 10 infrastructure cause the civilian factories don't know what else to build, millions of men in the field that don't seem to cost a penny...

Considering the amount of far fetched alt-history an earlier start might be a better choice though - but I doubt we will se either as it would involve updating a ton of focus trees - the curse of the focus trees - only a few countries at a time get updates.
 

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They can easily add pictures of Hitler & Co to their portraits....
Yep, but PDX doesn't want to for HoI IV, like I said, we'll have to wait and see what they do for HoI V

Besides the association with bad things of the historical flag, and the tendency to attract neonazis like flies, it's just super ugly. It's just so incredibly red that it isn't nice to look at. I much prefer the one we have in game as it's easier on the eyes and better designed.
Do I need to point out the bad things that communism, in particular the Soviet Union for the time frame of the game, has done. Regarding attracting neo-nazis, they're a bunch of idiots who don't even follow things that Hitler believed in, besides, who cares if someone you don't know is playing a game and not interacting at all with you. It's also not as red as other flags, there's a giant white circle in the middle with a big black swastika, how are other flags that are almost entirely red, such as the Soviet Union fine but not the Nazi flag when it comes to "incredibly red". The one we have is a adjusted war flag, the real one had the swastika and not Iron Cross. I'm tired of seeing the Iron Cross used as a Nazi symbol, it's caused so many people to believe it's a Nazi symbol and not a German symbol, it's like associating the Hammer and Sickle as a pure Russian symbol and not a symbol of communism.
 

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Yep, but PDX doesn't want to for HoI IV, like I said, we'll have to wait and see what they do for HoI V



Do I need to point out the bad things that communism, in particular the Soviet Union for the time frame of the game, has done. Regarding attracting neo-nazis, they're a bunch of idiots who don't even follow things that Hitler believed in, besides, who cares if someone you don't know is playing a game and not interacting at all with you. It's also not as red as other flags, there's a giant white circle in the middle with a big black swastika, how are other flags that are almost entirely red, such as the Soviet Union fine but not the Nazi flag when it comes to "incredibly red". The one we have is a adjusted war flag, the real one had the swastika and not Iron Cross. I'm tired of seeing the Iron Cross used as a Nazi symbol, it's caused so many people to believe it's a Nazi symbol and not a German symbol, it's like associating the Hammer and Sickle as a pure Russian symbol and not a symbol of communism.
The soviet (and prc) flag commit to being red, they go all in. It's gaudy on the german one, kinda like the Nepalese flag but that one has a cool shape.

Edit: if over 50% of your flag is red you either need to commit (ussr, prc), change the shape (Nepal, Switzerland), or break it up into smaller chunks (canada, norway).

Edit 2: also applies to dark blue.
 
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The soviet (and prc) flag commit to being red, they go all in. It's gaudy on the german one, kinda like the Nepalese flag but that one has a cool shape.

Edit: if over 50% of your flag is red you either need to commit (ussr, prc), change the shape (Nepal, Switzerland), or break it up into smaller chunks (canada, norway).

Edit 2: also applies to dark blue.
That's personal preference, to me it doesn't bother me, what does is using fake flags, I hate having to turn to mods to get proper flags for countries in HoI, and this isn't exclusively a German problem, many don't have historical flags
 
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Besides the association with bad things of the historical flag, and the tendency to attract neonazis like flies, it's just super ugly. It's just so incredibly red that it isn't nice to look at. I much prefer the one we have in game as it's easier on the eyes and better designed.
If they have to censor it, I'd prefer if at least they used the historical flag with the iron cross instead of the swastika. It would feel more realistic.
 

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If they have to censor it, I'd prefer if at least they used the historical flag with the iron cross instead of the swastika. It would feel more realistic.
It doesn't matter what they put in the middle, the flag will be ugly as sin. The design is honestly just so bad you'd think Hitler was a failed artist or something. I'd much rather they stick to the current good looking flag.
 
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Wow, yes. Looks like they took a gunpowder-era cannon (made by someone trying to compensate for something, so possibly Napoleon-era) and put it on an observation platform of some kind, and then put that in turn on a tank chassis.
Looks like a Canon de 194 mle GPF (France's first SPG, still about 50 in service when the Germans invaded).