HOI3 Alternate History Events Thread

[daemonofdecay]

So to coincide with the "historical events" thread, I was wondering what other types of plausible events the other people here would want to see in HOI3.

Personally, one of my top favorites would be series of events to explore the 'What if' of having Germany continue to persue economic and military ties with China (Nationalist China and the "60 Division Plan", for instance).

 

[Don_Quigleone]

I agree, also the German "New Order", perhaps social Chaos in the USA?

 

[BaronX]

I agree, also the German "New Order", perhaps social Chaos in the USA?

Yes, and also Japanese Greater East Asia Prosperity Sphere.

 

[daemonofdecay]

I would also like to see one that could reflect the political reality of trying to hold an Alliance together between the western Allies and the Soviet Union, and which could tie into a number of alternate "Bitter Peace" events.

For instance, Stalin was always insisting on the Allies to open up another front in Europe to help ease the burden off of the Red Army. So, lets say that by 1943 if the Soviet Union is at war with Germany, the Allies/Soviet Union would start getting events for conferences similiar to the Casablanca Conference, and the Soviet Union could start asking about Allied intervention on the continent.

One of Stalin's greatest fears was that the Allies would conclude a seperate peace with Germany to let Germany destroy Communism for them (and the Allies feared Stalin making a seperate peace with Hitler), which meant that Stalin might be willing to settle for a white peace with Germany if the Allies have not intervened in the European continent and the Red Army is not having great successes against Germany.

So, if relations between the Soviet Union and UK/US sour, Germans are not on Soviet soil, and there is no significant Allied presense in Europe at a random date begining in 1943 (with very low chances of firing this early but increasing as time goes on) then an event like "Should we offer a seperate peace?" event would pop up for the Soviet Union, and the USSR could have 3 choices like Yes, No, or Delay the Question a little longer.

If they choose yes, then Germany would get a "Stalin offers a seperate peace" event that the German player could then accept, decline, or negotiate. The chance of Germany accepting it should be low if Hitler is still in charge, but if he isn't it AI chances of choosing accept could be much higher.

 

[Don_Quigleone]

This could be handled by ingame mechanics though, unless HoI3 continues the old tradition of members of major alliances never negotiating.

 

[Galleblære]

I'd like to see some more "plausible" ways for Germany to make peace with the Western Allies as well. In HoI2 you are in total war mode with every minor out there. Maybe a peace event if Germany succeeds with a Sealion before the US enters the war.

Then maybe a peace event with the Western Allies (inc US) if... the Axis has defeated the Soviet Union, controls the British Islands, and has control of Northern Africa, with certain other modifiers for example.

Since I am sure expansion packs to HoI3 will extend the timeline, this will become more important.

 

[Keioel]

I would like to see the events in CCIP included for NatChi winning both against Japan and the Communists and I'd like to see it fleshed out even further so that when it happens in the game there's more events that "might" have been.

 

[unmerged(84988)]

Maybe the possibility of Hitler getting assasinated.

Another thing, perhaps increase the likelyhood of certain random events, such as the Hitler assasination, which could go AH.

 

[Galleblære]

Maybe the possibility of Hitler getting assasinated.

Another thing, perhaps increase the likelyhood of certain random events, such as the Hitler assasination, which could go AH.

I believe such events were already part of HoI2. Can't remember the triggers though.

 

[Raczynski]

I believe such events were already part of HoI2. Can't remember the triggers though.

The triggers were such that it never happened, thought. And in rare cases when it did, there no follow-up to that - the game pressumed as if nothing happened.

 

[humancalculator]

Maybe the possibility of Hitler getting assasinated.

Another thing, perhaps increase the likelyhood of certain random events, such as the Hitler assasination, which could go AH.

That would be really important in, say a 1944 campaign.

 

[Darknesskilla]

I think all these seperate peace events could be handled by Alliance leaders being willing to negociate with other alliances. The Comintern and the Allies should be more inclined on signing a peace with the Axis than the Axis with the Comintern and the Allies etc.

 

[coolguy684]

there should be an event similar to operation unthinkable, where germany gives the west peace so they could fight communism together. how wonderful to see german, british and american troops crusading against stalin.but im not sure how that would work, would the axis be disbanded and the axis and allies combined into one alliance against comintern, or would uk and usa and commonwealth eneter the axis? towards the very end pattons voiced opinions on making peace with the nazis so they could fight the commies together. (patton had a passionate hatred of both the russian race and the communists in general.)

 

[ArneHD]

A decent Republican Spain victory would be nice, especially with a followup of some sort.

 

[DesertSnow]

In my "personal" mod of HoI2, i created an event that allows the creation of the "comittee for the creation of the russian republican army" under Vlassov by Germany. In real life, Hitler never trusted Vlassov, so even though the comitee was created, it was never adequently supported by the germans.

 

[Will Lucky]

I wouldn't mind seeing some sort of Ally intervention in the Winter War that would be the end of them for sure.

 

[Alerias]

Well a bare minimum of course include a bunch of Axis victory events, similar to HoI2, but I'd like to see more possible nuances this time around... IE, situations in which truces are signed between the factions without an overwhelming, all-ending victory.

Although it didnt happen in OTL, there were constant talks for truces, which for most of the war, could have left Germany in control of mainland Europe and quite a bit of formerly Soviet territory. There has to be a way to simulate this other than a "bitter peace" that stretches the Reich all the way past the Urals.

 

[pedal2000]

I wouldn't mind some generic events as well.

Generic alliance events, such as, this will increase our co-prosperity (+50 rep between partners) whenever you ally someone ahistorical or something.

More importantly, if things are going ahistorically, please don't have historical events firing. Add in a decent amount of "Doesn't happen if"