Wait for the 8-core i7 processors. They will run over 5ghz per core and sport massive efficiency upgrade over the core2 architecture. I think hoi3 needs brute force to speed up, however the jerkiness could be fixed with a few optimisation patches.
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Rapid growth of requirements for what? For the graphics i saw in hoi3? CPU requirements are possibly ok. AI and modelling is necessary but the graphics...
Maybe you are meant to play the game more slowly and concentrate on it. As opposed to whizzing through WW2 in 9 hours. Just a thought.
Except that the game starts in 1936. I would like to be able to build up before the war, but I can't play the game if it will take me 10.5 hours to get to the actual war, especially when activity in that period will pretty much consist of filling the production queue and sending some diplomats and spies. That's not very much to concentrate on.
And what about playing the USA, where the war might not start until 1941? Am I to concentrate on the production queue for 17 hours?
Actually it's a 6 core called the i9, the i7 is staying as it is for a while.
Intels 2010 CPU's should be released at over 4ghz.....let alone 5.
lol, your card (6600gt)was brought on market in the end of 2004, what do you expect? to play another 5 years with it?
you should be happy that eu3 (from 2007) ran smoothly on that
edit: i correct myself, it was august 2004
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I'm running on a dualcore 3ghz laptop with a 8800 GTX card and although 24hrs takes about the same 30s to complete I have virtually no lag. UI is quick and responsive. I'm running Vista, might be a difference there as many with problems seem to be running XP.
Well, in HOI II, it was usually common to zip through the pre-war period. Regularly in MP I have gotten through 2 year in 4 hours to start in a 1936 and get to 1938. That is fast, for MP, but that is the set up, and it is boring, but if you are playing against guys it pays to be patient so you get it exactly right. Then you are basically set up for the war, which takes a lot longer. I have played full 6 hour sessions that consumed 3 months of game time, during wartime, especially at Barbarossa time.
That is one of the reasons they created the 38 scenarios. It was for people who didn't have the patience for all that.
It's not a fast game, really.
Yeah, the lag on some systems are not due to too weak machines, as high-end machines (or what i would count as those) seem to have these problems as well. It´s clearly a bug in the software, not a lack of hardware. I am not talking about trying to run the game on a system below the announced requirements, here. But i run it on a single core (AMD 3700+) with 2 gigs (DDR400) and a ATI3850 (512Mybte) under XP, and albeit it´d certainly like it to run faster, i experience no where close the lag some people experience on far superior systems. Thus, the answer to the performance problems of HoI3 in the demo-version on some machines can not be put as simple as ´get a better PC´.
EDIT: I am to *believe* (i really dont know) that the performance problems are due to multi-cores, or better put, one core waiting for the other to finish something, before it can carry on, while the other core is waiting for the first... Idle percentages of the cores usages on PCs on which the Demo lags, seem to indicate that to me.
EDIT: I am to *believe* (i really dont know) that the performance problems are due to multi-cores, or better put, one core waiting for the other to finish something, before it can carry on, while the other core is waiting for the first... Idle percentages of the cores usages on PCs on which the Demo lags, seem to indicate that to me.
maybe the hardware meets or exceeds the requirments, but in a lot of cases the system and hardware arent optimised, plus a lot of poeple run numerous other programms in the background without knowing or just becuase they think the have a superduper pc.
i really cant imagine that paradox throws a game (or demo) with such problems. they know that the community will eat them
There's a world of difference between 4 hours (and I've gotten through the 36-39 period in HoI 2 much faster than that anyway) and over 10. Are you suggesting that ten hours is a reasonable amount of time for the game to take? I don't call that playable by any stretch of the imagination. Patience is an understatement of the requirements when I could start the game before going to bed and get up the next morning to find myself still in 1938. Do you really think the game is designed to be this slow?
I know, i mean you need i9 processor to play this game?? It's funny. I got i7 myself and the game lags even if i am not fighting a lot..
I thought my computer was gonna run this fine.
AMD Athlon 64 x2 5000+ (clocked 208*13)
Geforce 8800GTX 768mb (clocked core:650 shadow: 1520 memory: 1010)
4gb memory
Vista 64
Still quite laggy, and i can't raise clocks without buying a new cooler, and i don't have money for a new computer.
AMD Athlon 64 x2 5000+ (clocked 208*13)
Geforce 8800GTX 768mb (clocked core:650 shadow: 1520 memory: 1010)
4gb memory
Vista 64
Still quite laggy, and i can't raise clocks without buying a new cooler, and i don't have money for a new computer.
Just a tip.... try turning off multisample, especially if your GPU is close to or below minimum specs.
Did wonders for me (Radeon 9400 onboard).
Did wonders for me (Radeon 9400 onboard).
Yes. That was my experience with HOI II MP. Seems to me, this is really slow paced combat stuff. Slow down for the complex stuff, speed up for the long hauls before the war. Its a long campaign. We had a 6 person East is Red game go for an entire year, 6 to 8 hours each weekend -- 1936 to 1945.
240 hours or so. And yeah, boredom is one of the reasons we don't usually have USA at start. France goes over to USA, after the fall of France if that happens.
Regularly I plya MEM mod based in a 38 6 hours a week sessions, for 8 to 10 sessions, sometimes more.
It's a strategy game, not a FPS. I could zip through the war run-up in an hour I am sure, but the devil is in the details, and if its a competative game you can blow your game right there.
It's a pace thing. I rather enjoy playing Rome on slow to medium, and trying to tune my dynasty, which is pretty much impossible at higher speeds.
Seeing as how my laptop, a 2.26ghz dual core intel CPU with 2gb ram and an Intel INTEGRATED GPU can run the game without lag I don't think the lag issues are completely related to computer specs in all cases
I think that they simply didnt know about the issue, before the demo has made their code run on other systems than those in the PIs studios (and any issues in the beta could be excused, maybe, as being beta). The problems only seem to occur on some systems. It is still a total mystery, as it seems, as to what causes the problems. But i wonder how messed up a modern PC must be, to run it soo laggish as has been reported, when my 3.5 years old system can run it without such issues (other than actually being close to the minimum-requirements - ´expectable lag´, if you want to call it so), if the problem would not reside in the game-code itself.
EDIT: it would be very interesting to see, if the issue remains on such a ´lagger´ if a format and clean reinstall of the OS was executed. Maybe it IS some other software... i really dont know. But it cant be the hardware (EDIT2: except some incompatible combination, or such - i mean overall hardware performance). I think the fact, that it runs on mine, is logic proof of that.
Okay, so now imagine if you could only play at higher speeds. Wouldn't that suck? Would you accept that as being how the game is designed?
Yes, it's all very well to play at a slow speed, but why does the fastest speed take 10 hours to advance three years? It's not like I, or anyone else complaining about the speed, wants to force you or any other MP enthusiast to play at a mile a minute. We just want the fastest speed to be, you know, fast.
Let's say I'm playing single player Hearts of Iron 3, and I load up as Germany in 1936, I fill my production queue, set my researches, send out diplomats and spies, then unpause the game. Now, if this was HOI 2, I'd maybe have to wait 5 minutes tops before having something to do again. In 3, I'm meant to sit around doing nothing for an hour? Two? How is that good design?
its from an other thread, same card, seems you have to optimize your system or shut down other programms running in the back ground
http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?t=415953&page=12
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