HoI2 ARMA 1.3b multiplayer on Gameranger

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**SR is only permitted when ALL provinces required to retreat through are not adjacent to enemy forces, retreating enemy forces do not count as adjacent.


This wording will fix the situation and allow encirclements and salients to be played out fairly. This allows any Sr'ing units to take into account the regions they must travel through to get to there destination.


As for #3 i couldnt possibly agree more with you.

 

[Zardnaar]

How often do the Axis win in these MP games?

 

[Pepsi_max]

Depends on luck, average skill player, barbarossa date, and USA entry of war.
But in most of case, allies tend to win if axis doesn't destroy atleast 150-250 divisions in the early years.
That's why with same player skill, normal barba/PH date, allies have the best chances to win.

The only real chance for axis is to kick out of the war one of the two big powers (USA or USSR) before 1943.

 

[Zardnaar]

I'm a MP scrub so I'll probably dsee your Panzers in Moscow then

 

[Hax]

Can't even China save us?

EDIT: Zardnaar, will you play with us?

 

[Zardnaar]

Yeah but it depends on the time.

 

[Pepsi_max]

Can't even China save us?

EDIT: Zardnaar, will you play with us?

Oh no, it's already over for us in this game :rofl:.
Only a miracle can save AND european axis AND asiatic axis.
It's a good time to prepare your lugguage for argentina.

 

[Fancykiller65]

Oh no, it's already over for us in this game :rofl:.
Only a miracle can save AND european axis AND asiatic axis.
It's a good time to prepare your lugguage for argentina.

I hate Argentina. Can we go to Switzerland? Or somewhere else in Europe, with high infra.?

 

[Fancykiller65]

Savegame!!!! Please!!!

 

[Pepsi_max]

You'll be safe with me, Fancy.

http://rapidshare.com/files/443155351/Japan_1941_September_28.eug

 

[Fancykiller65]

You'll be safe with me, Fancy.

Said the man on an island, filled with IC, and stockpiles of resources.
While I sit next to Russia, India, beaches for Idiotic Americans to beach their warships, IC worth less than it should be, with troops who can't climb to Mongolia, Kill Mongolians, then not get killed by Russians. Tanks that can't climb over mountains. *Mutters darkly*

 

[Hax]

Lodovico will you mod the alliances as you promised?

 

[LodovicoAriosto]

Yes. After Pearl Harbor I will do it although it was not fair from you or Pepsi to have taken it for granted. How can anyone take save edits for granted in case he just wants to avoid problems with redeployment? Remember that if Fancy and Pepsi followed the correct procedure (and I told them to disband their alliance in advance) to be able to join the Axis, it would delay or cause some difficulties with their attack due to forced redeployments. I would have no problem with this if Pepsi and Fancy didn't know they wouldn't be able to join after they DoW while staying in the old alliance. But Pepsi admitted he knew he wouldn't be able to join the Axis if at war so it seems he intentionally did this to avoid these SR problems and attack earlier or easier than he actually could according to the rules. Or isn't it true?

It is completely legitimate not to do alliance editing. Anyone could say that Pepsi deliberately chose to exchange being in the Axis for less problems with the attack. I hope you are well aware of this.

Anyway, I think we can get over this now. I am looking forward to the next session!

 

[Pepsi_max]

Let him speak Hax, he keep speaking and trying to unfairly disadvantages axis . I have no problems in saying the truth and having a good game, even if it disadvantages me.
Your "legitimacy" comes from nothing LA.
Each player knew that this SR shouldn't have been allowed.



Game seems not enough easy for him, even with the actual barbarossagration


Let's make him pay ingame for each rule that he exploits .

 

[LodovicoAriosto]

Ok. That s enough - no alliance editing. Sorry Hax and Fancy. Pepsi chose not to join the Axis although he knew how to do it. You two seem to have had no word in his decision so complain to him that he didn't want to disband the alliance.

When we finish this game, I am no more a GM. Pepsi refused to be a GM in the next game, so I think it could be Fancy or Hax if they are interested.

I want a new GM to try to secure stability and continuation of the upcoming game. So he needs to be reliable and reasonable. I have no more patience to argue with people who obviously have nothing else to do than flame on the forum.

End of discussion about this.

 

[Hax]

Well Lodovico you promised to edit.
Yes even with this unfair situation they continue making it more unfair.
Also realistic it would be to join te alliances 2+2 IRL, just because it can't be done in hoi.

 

[LodovicoAriosto]

No. Sorry. Pepsi CHOSE not to join although he COULD, WAS TOLD TO AND WAS EXPECTED TO. As you can see above, I was ready to do the editing but I am no more. I won't be anybody's fool, be sure about that.

What is the "unfair" situation you are talking about? Yes, Pepsi tried to exploit the rules by creating a situation which should force me to edit alliances.

 

[Hax]

The unfair situation is the whole game. It's obivious we will lose if you don't do any great mistakes. With a SU who is getting stronger and can hold the lines and a US who has more IC then maybe whole axis we will lose. But I will fight to last vp!

 

[LodovicoAriosto]

Stop crying, please. As you can see now, me and SU are getting beaten - which could be expected by anyone who looked in the rules. We won't survive without the massive US help and it was meant this way.

How is the game unfair? The Axis is stronger here than in a historical game since China is with you and you can all attack SU at once.

I would gladly play the Axis with the same setup. If you remember, I didn't give a s..t about what faction I would play in. And I also made sure that there are some experienced players on both sides.

Be a GM next time if you want.

 

[Hax]

Soviet Union gets beaten?
LOL...