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Yours is probably blocked. Happens to accounts that were created long time ago, left unused for quite a while and got stolen by AIT crowd. Original owners try to log in afterwards yet alas it's been blocked by IM/FB/Meta.

Cheers, good to know - although mine glitched out fairly recently after being set up, and I did almost nothing with it (just set it up to look at a couple of friends' accounts). Ah well, might set another up for this (I've got a couple of alt email-addresses) - thanks for clueing me up :)

Edit: There we go, and I'm in. For those that aren't on Insta, the first one was "name this ship" (lol, I knew there was a reason drawing me to it :) ) - I'm sure answering no the forum won't put you in the running to win anything, but for info, in case of interest.

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there is also onlyfans, which may have a reputation as a charcouterie but most assuredly provides for all fans of anything.
 
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, and the one over there has been seen by 20 times more players.

Do you have metrics on how to compare 'viewers on Instagram' with 'people dedicated enough to stick around in an outdated social media format, that being a forum', especially considering the fact that Instagram (as any engagement-driven social media) is riddled with bots and may contain non-bots that just scroll through content en mass without actually being your relevant target audience?

Only mild offense intended, but you do realize this thread is basically the PDX-equivalent of "But don't you have phones?!" Diablo IV?
 
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Only mild offense intended, but you do realize this thread is basically the PDX-equivalent of "But don't you have phones?!" Diablo IV?

Are people really surprised the forum gets less views than their Instagram? I don't understand why we're being so defensive about it. This seems like an overly dramatic response to a small giveaway event.
 
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Are people really surprised the forum gets less views than their Instagram? I don't understand why we're being so defensive about it. This seems like an overly dramatic response to a small giveaway event.

Because this is another instance of PDX showcasing how out of touch (at least some of) their representitives are with the community they're supposed to represent to. Remember that Stellaris Mobile Game fiasco? Or "It's not our fault if you don't know how to play our game" in EUIV's rebellocalypse?

I mean, yeah, it's an irrelevantly small giveaway event, and probably not worth paying attention to or getting upset at. But that's the problem with actually being emotionally invested in a franchise.
 
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there is also onlyfans, which may have a reputation as a charcouterie but most assuredly provides for all fans of anything.
If they would do it on onlyfans, it would have at least enough irony to be taken seriously again.

I just hate that PDX is engaging on a platform, that should be outlawed for mental manipulation, threatening democracy and de-educating the world's population.
 
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Because this is another instance of PDX showcasing how out of touch (at least some of) their representitives are with the community they're supposed to represent to.
Who's out of touch here, exactly? If they get more engagement on Instagram (20x!), are those people not their community as well? You and I are both here on the forum, but it gets the most engagement from the overall community on big announcements and patch notes, not small giveaways.

I just disagree with comparing this to something like Diablo Immortal. Save that hyperbole for if HoI5 is announced as a mobile game!
 
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If they would do it on onlyfans, it would have at least enough irony to be taken seriously again.

I just hate that PDX is engaging on a platform, that should be outlawed for mental manipulation, threatening democracy and de-educating the world's population.
that covers all the big social medias from fascesbook to googles and so on.
and you may also notice a active campaign to close down and destroy any and all competitors that even at 0,01% the size is clearly too much of a threat to the monopolists.
 

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that covers all the big social medias from fascesbook to googles and so on.
and you may also notice a active campaign to close down and destroy any and all competitors that even at 0,01% the size is clearly too much of a threat to the monopolists.
No doubt. And because western democratic governments are to weak (or more like to slow) to deal with these monopolies, democracy is now threatened at it's core, because all of the social media works on polarization and radicalization. People always did everything for money, but the difference is, that they now can do more evil manipulation than ever - because they follow the money...
 
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Who's out of touch here, exactly? If they get more engagement on Instagram (20x!), are those people not their community as well?

That's the point I made. Do they want high numbers on some fancy looking statistic? Or a high amount of engagement by the people buying their products (aka, the playerbase)?

Believing that 20x views on Instagram must equal 20x engagement proves a complete lack of understanding of how engagement-based Social Media operates, and is operated. Showcasing that lack of understanding is perfectly fine for your average person, but not exactly acceptable for a Community Manager, who's sole purpose is specifically to represent their company (or a product thereof), towards the public, usually on said Social Media.

That said, I'll be damned if I start doing the details for Instagram as well, so for all I know maybe that one platform is for some magical reason completely different and consequently a 20x views metric actually translates to some degree (maybe 2x? Heck, technically 1.1x would be valid enough) of 'higher engagement measured in profits'. It's not impossible. But regardless of that, it was very clear that Mr. Community Manager was flaunting those "20x more engagement!" values with purpose, so I'll leave it at the judgement implied with my original comment.

I just disagree with comparing this to something like Diablo Immortal. Save that hyperbole for if HoI5 is announced as a mobile game!

Fair, it WAS a bit hyperbolic, since it's both smaller in scope AND significance. But I couldn't resist making the jab by drawing the parallel, also in curiosity as to whether Mr. CM would even recognize the reference. I considered adding a "(And I sincerely hope I do not also have to explain what THAT means.)", but felt that would be a bit too thick.
 
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Are people really surprised the forum gets less views than their Instagram? I don't understand why we're being so defensive about it. This seems like an overly dramatic response to a small giveaway event.
I don't see what is overly dramatic about expecting that they could put their own company forum first above a third-party site. Seems a no-brainer for a company.
 
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Been seen by twenty times more players bots.

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I think things like this should be on the forum for the players. I don't have instagram , facebook or any other products like them, and I don't plan on getting them, so I guess I will not get to participate. It really irks me when I see this type of action that limits what the real players that don't use other media platforms. I will admit to viewing you tube for the let's play videos, but that is it.
I also agree with the post above about paradox merchandising items like the t-shirts.
 
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I'd like to see a comparison by verified and linked accounts on here, all accounts that have basically proven we're real players who have bought the game(s), some have been here over 2 decades. I'm a newbie here with only 12 years in.

Number of posts here from proven verified Paradox gamers compared to 'views' on Instagram from who knows what. As I alluded in my previous post, a lot of the interactions on sites such as Instagram is bot activity of varying sorts. How many gamers post on there compared to gamers who view and post on here?

I highly doubt that number would be twenty times what it is here.

I mean I rarely enter these kind of things anyway, but to be dismissed as unimportant because another platform has more 'people' on it is a bit of an insult tbh.
 
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I'll only be upset if any of the rewards are actually good.

Also, is no one else bothered by the fact that the dates are in no kind of order?

Yeah, but that also goes for like half the ones I've seen in stores so more of a failing of the concept.
 
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Well when you think about it, it makes perfect sense. It occurred to me yesterday.

It's a marketing strategy, they're doing it to try and bring the HOI4 game to more people. Of course the people here on this forum already have it, so we aren't the target for such a marketing campaign. For us, they want to sell us any DLCs we haven't bought yet, so any future campaign would be arranged around that.

If they'd have said that openly and honestly, instead of the 'because more people' thing, I'm sure most people would have reacted positively and understood the reasoning.
 
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The fans loved the clothing! Should we:

A. Create merchandise that the fans are eager to purchase and sell it during the time of the year where it will absolutely sell?

B. Create a contest exclusive to social media that will have only one winner each day, alienating anyone who doesn't have an Instagram and ensuring we make absolutely no money off the merch at all?

TO INSTAGRAM!
You forgot about C. Do B. first to get people invested in the Instagram account and the game, then do A. down the line.

Sure, they would make money selling merch, but potential customers* is a long-term investment.

*I'd assume a significant majority of the people on this forum either already own HoI4, or never plan to buy it because [insert another HoI game] is superior in their eyes. Instagram on the other hand...
there is also onlyfans, which may have a reputation as a charcouterie but most assuredly provides for all fans of anything.
I think there was a museum which had to get an onlyfans because Instagram (or whatever social media it was) felt some of their historical exhibits contained too little in the way of clothing. Probably generated quite the publicity.

This is HoI4 though, not CK3.
 
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