HoI 4 - More cas are participating in battles than what is allowed v.1.11.10.29f3 [09ac]

[Cloak71]

Description of issue
Cas limit in battle not working properly v.1.11.10.29f3 [09ac]

Game Version
v.1.11.10.29f3 [09ac]

Enabled DLC
Together for Victory, Death or Dishonor, Waking the Tiger, Man The Guns, La Resistance, Battle for the Bosporus, No Step Back

Do you have mods enabled?
No

Description
Cas in size 1000 air wings do more damage in battle then cas split up into air wings of 100. The cas with 1000 in an air wing ignore the cas combat width limit of 3 times enemies combat width in battle.

Steps to Reproduce
1. Loaded up game as germany and declared war on poland (with ai off)
2. Had 2 groups of 1000 cas in konigsberg, 1 group of 1000 vs 10 groups of 100
3. Started a battle and tracked damage per day

Gives the following results
Cas in 1 air wing of 1000. 68 org damage, 39 strength damage day 1. day 2 total was 118 and 76. day 3 total was 153 and 113.

Cas in 10 air wings of 100 (1000 total) did 23 org and 14 strength damage day 1. total was 49 and 30 day 2 and 78 and 47 day 3.

Cas in air wing of 1000 is doing approximately 3 times the damage. Combat width for battle was 108 for the enemy which suggests air wings of 100 followed the game rules and air wings of 1000 all operated with no restriction.

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[bERt0r]

And it gets even worse with 1600 air wing size. I hope this gets addressed in the air patch.

 

[otcp1999]

CAS does no more damage at 180 combat width than at 90 combat width, although more CAS are put into the battlefield.

 

[Cloak71]

CAS does no more damage at 180 combat width than at 90 combat width, although more CAS are put into the battlefield.

Its not about the enemy combat width but the amount of cas present in the battle. If you are using air wings of 1000 then yes you will get the same damage at 180 as you do at 90. That is the bug. You should be doing different amounts at 90 width and 180 width because different amounts of cas should be showing up and therefore dealing different amounts of damage. You literally just confirmed the bug exists. The ui lies about the amount of cas in the combat, it only shows the max but you can have way more than that in the battle if you are using a single air wing size that is larger than the combat width allowed.

None of this matters since they announced the air rework and everything is going to operate in air wings of 100 but that's besides the point. It is currently bugged.

 

[otcp1999]

Using 8 wing of 100, CAS does no more damage at 180 combat width than at 90 combat width.

 

[bERt0r]

Oh my god no. This is not about combat width but air wing size. Seriously people learn to read. More combat width should increase CAS dmg, at least that's how it's intended.

 

[Cloak71]

Using 8 wing of 100, CAS does no more damage at 180 combat width than at 90 combat width.

This is just false. The only way you could get this result is having 1 battle in an air zone that launches 1 sortie a day and the other in an air zone that launches 2 sorties a day.

This is what happens when using 1000 cas in the same air zone with different combat widths and air wing sizes. An air wing of 1000 is clearly doing way more damage than air wings of 100 even in a battle that has 90 combat width (only allows for 270 cas). Now 1000 isn't doing straight double 540 because 540 is actually using 600 cas and 270 is using 300 but it is still doing way more than what is intended.

Not something they need to patch anymore with the air rework but that wasn't announced when I posted this bug.

 

[otcp1999]

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