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did someone say Byzantine Empire :D
 

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Will the German Reich have cores on Poznan Memel and Danzig ? It sounds strange that they can have Luxemburg and Alsace as cores but not these former german territories
 

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New decision:
Add formable Byzantium to the game
Effects:
+100% increased sales among Byzantophiles
+1 unrest among historical purists
:p
 

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It doesn’t seem THAT unrealistic that Greece beats Turkey in a war. I see a path to Greek dominance of the region. I don’t see a path to the creation of a polity that never existed, that always saw itself as the Roman Empire. The communists wouldn’t want an empire, the fascists not a foreign empire, the democrats not an autocracy.

While Greek dominance of the Balkans and Anatolia was unlikely, the resurrection of Byzantium not even a goal for anyone involved. There are levels to the implausibility see. I’m fine with a lot but I want the theme to be WW2, not EU4.
That's why I asked if there would be custom names depending on the political stance, since after thinking a bit about it, having a Communist or Democratic Greece turning into Byzantium would indeed seem weird.
For the fascists or the neutrals, it doesn't seem so strange to claim their old empire back. Maybe not Byzantium itself, but there are several greek empires they can claim to have reformed (Byzantium being the closest one, but they can use Alexander or another similar figure).
 

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Would they EVER call it Byzantum though? Byzantine Empire never was called as such.
Byzantium is also used in EUIV even though it's still wrong, I suppose how the other countries would see you is taken into account (like, maybe I'm not sure how Germany called itself in this time period, how it's Nazi Germany and not Third Reich ?)
 

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could we get some more native state/province/city name change events added to the game instead of needing to mod them in? :) pretty pls...
 

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That's why I asked if there would be custom names depending on the political stance, since after thinking a bit about it, having a Communist or Democratic Greece turning into Byzantium would indeed seem weird.
For the fascists or the neutrals, it doesn't seem so strange to claim their old empire back. Maybe not Byzantium itself, but there are several greek empires they can claim to have reformed (Byzantium being the closest one, but they can use Alexander or another similar figure).

I understand what you mean, I just don’t think Byzantium would ever be used. And I would like different names depending on which ideology is in command too, so complete agreement there!

But yeah. Paradox seems to agree with me that it’s impossible and be clear that this is strictly memery. I approve of large parts of this dev diary, I enjoy formable nations and think it’s fun with alt-hist paths. I just dislike the meme nations since I would like the theme to be more WW2 than EU4. I think it’s weird that they’re in vanilla. Mods, sure, but base game?

I also am a bit shocked about how many people defend HRE, Byzantium and Roman Emperor Mussolini as historically plausible.

Those are my gripes.
 

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A-H is formable by focus in the DoD Hungary tree. They showed Germany getting a focus to integrate Alsace-Lorraine and Luxembourg last Dev stream

Imperial Germany also have a focus to influence Austria, Czechoslovakia and Hungary to form A-H.
 

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Miedzymorze?
 

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Seems to me that Byzantium is probably one of the least odd formables here. Sure, the name is ahistorical, but the Megali idea was a thing, and as recently as the treaty of Sevres, Greece was slated to get some decent sized chunks of Turkey.
 

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@podcat one important question, am i allowed to form those countries only in peace time or can i create / use the decision when i take the provinces? The most annoying thing with New nations or formable one is when i can't form them im wartime... I have to wait peacetime, FYI the game is over by then i conquered everybody
 

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I like the achivments. Its not so Random crap like in Stellaris o_O
 

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What happens when a formed country is puppeted/conquered? Does it lose it's tag if it's puppeted? Can you release/satellite/liberate the formed nation with it's tag?
 

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>Byzantium doesn't have Byzantium as its capital.

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Very cool :). I don't normally play the game on ahistoric but with all the changes to alternative history paths and now formable nations, it might be time to give it a try!