HoI 4 - Army Group-level plans do not generate XP for the Organizer trait [Hydra v 1.7.0] (d12e)

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Description of issue
Army Group-level plans do not generate XP for the Organizer trait [Hydra v 1.7.0] (d12e)

Game Version
Hydra v 1.7.0 (d12e)

Enabled DLC
Together for Victory,
Death or Dishonor,
Waking the Tiger,
Man The Guns, All of the above

Do you have mods enabled?
No

Description
It appears that Generals and Field Marshals do not gain experience in the "Organizer" trait when executing battle plans, if the plan involves the Army Group level battle planner. Other XP seems to award as normal (e.g. Unit type and Terrain bonuses)

Note that this bug does NOT seem to apply to orders made at the Army level. Army-level orders appear to award XP as normal, including awarding XP to Field Marshals of the Army Group that the unit is in. You can still put units in the army group for bonus purposes, just don't make plans using the AG-level planner.

Steps to Reproduce
Set up an Army and Army group, check their stats now for comparison.
Assign a frontline and attack order via the Army Group level planner.
Let it get setup and gain planning bonuses (The latter is optional, I think, but I do it to ensure nothing is missed)
Execute the order. DO NOT MANUALLY MOVE ANYTHING.
Check the leader stats after the order is executed. "Organizer" should not have increased (in this case, it stays at 0) while other relevant skills (e.g. Infantry Leader) will have increased.

This bug also applies to armies whos front has been set via the Army Group frontline designator but the individual order given via the Army designer. To replicate, repeat the above, but give the attack order from the Army layer instead.

This bug does NOT seem to apply to orders made at the Army level Only, per test batch 3. Test by ignoring the AG layer and using the Army order designer. In the screenshots below, the Org gain is a result of a few days of fighting.

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Still true in Avalanche 1.12.2
Since we all want our field marshals to have logistics wizard it makes army group orders effectively unusable
 
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