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Interesting session again last night.

The Battle for poland continued with German forces pausing for the final mass assult on warsaw. German Tactical bombers pounded warsaws infrastructre reducing it to 1/3, hindering the ESE (supply effiency of the units in the city). The bombers switched to interdiction to reduce org on the defenders, once all amries were at full org the assault began from all sides. The battle lasted a few days but it was never in doubt. German forces were hardley scratched, just losing some org. So to take a major city a well planned attack is need with full org on all units. Poland was soon annex after that point once the MR pact was signed.

French forces kept attacking opposited the magionot line, breaking through and pushing on to stutgart. This situation lasted about a month befor the German army was redployed and stabilised the situation pushing french forces across the border.

While this was happening German forces massed in the north of Germany for the assualt on Norway. German airpower pounded the beaches, with shore bombardment providing a huge boast to the 12 infantry trying to push there way ashore. Once again a well planned operation with all forces working as one won the day, even after Canada assumed control and moved 2 fresh infantry divs to the beach, these were brushed aside. German forces raced all over norway reaching the outskirts of Navrik were we have halted to await reinforcements and org for the final push.

German naval forces engaged a large british CV taskforce, and numerous other allied fleets in the one battle. The battle was rather even with both sides taking hits to there Battle ships and a CV each. Germany pulled its Cv fleet out as the Tripitz was almost sunk and there was little to be gained from staying. The timing was chosen carefully to allow the sub fleets under the command of donitz to stay and engaged the fleet at night time. A Uk CV was sunk in seconds, 2 CL's and a CA were also sunk along with a number of Dutch ships. I should have retreated at first dayligh with the loss of only 1 sub. But know i stayed to see what would happen and in seconds i lost another 7 subs. Lesson learnt retreat befor daylight. But ill swap 8 subs for 1 CV, 2 CL, 1 CA and a number of dutch DD anyday, plus a second carrier was reduced to 50, the BC hood was almost sunk and a second BB down to 50 strength, and other minor ships were damaged.

The Allies once again dragged more innocent nations into this war. Both Belgium and the Netherlands joined the war. German forces were once again out of position and a few provinces have fallen to the dutch. Soon though the full might of the German army will decend upon them all. I was willing to wait until April/May 1940 until i attacked the low countries and France, but the allies have now forced my hand. This could end up being a bonus for Germany if we get vinchy event early 1940 or even late 39 a full 6-7 months early. Reap the wirlwind Allies, Germany will not be denied.

Good fun, guys really liked those naval battles.
 
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The brave and heroic Poles fought on until the last man, draining every possible man from the Devil's Hordes, aka Wehmacht. This task was somewhat hindered by the evil Birds of Death (Luftwaffe).

The Madman in Berlin (MiB) continued his aggressive campaign of subjacation (spelling not important) of Democratic states, and this saw the loss of yet more innocent lives.

This began with the invasion of Norway, which has been halted in the mountains as the courageous Viking decendants prove their worth. German troops were reported to have been engaging in satanic rituals, although this has yet been unconfirmed.

The French "Doomed" divisions defied their title and drove the Germans from the provinces near Alsace-Lorrain (unimportant German provinces) and forced the MiB to hurry reinforcements, but he was spared further hair loss as the French generals believed that securing two resource forsaken provinces was enough of a blow.

The German invasion and attempted subjacation of the Low Countries was stopped in its tracks as the Devilish Hordes were once again repelled.
 

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Hi, gonna keep this brief to avoid getting myself too steamed up over diplomacy.

Everyone has thier own idea about what constitutes fair on a case by case basis. Fair enough.

Until now i've been playing trying to figure out what the rules are, what's expected of each player etc. Seems to be pretty individual really, again, everyone has their own idea.

From now on, I will decide what I think is most fair for the USA to do on a case by case basis, and I will implement it.

Any attempts by other players to influence USA diplomacy, diplomacy sliders, build orders, whatever, will be met with a response appropriate to the nation they are coming from. Interest in the opinions of others from democracies, and disinterest bordering on belligerence when recieving orders/advice from despots around the world. This includes demands when it comes to future diplomacy actions - i'll decide my diplomacy at the time dependant on what's going on at the time, thanks all the same.

(This exludes explicit deals i have agreed to of course, my word is good.)

If everyone disagrees with what I'm doing in any case, because they feel it's ruining the game, that's fine, just let me know. But it has to be EVERYONE.

Otherwise I'll just ignore whoever's saying whatever. I mean come on, most of the 7 players in this game are the US's freaking enemies.

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Fair enough gezeder, just let us know if your about to join an alliance or war so i can grab a save incase everyone dose object. Was our game time on sunday, 5pm or 7pm?

A Good session for Germany tonight.

Norway was finished off after a few failed attempts to storm Navrik, but after massive bombardment it finaly fell, and norway was added to the Reich.

By Mid November the Germany army was positioned to turn the Allied tide and drive them from German lands, first the netherlands would be dealth with letting us outflank the allies from north around there river line defence. Feirce fighting errupted along the river lines with Germany holding its ground it had gained, Antwerpt, Brullsells all fell in quick succession, fighting was tough. Soon it became clear to the french player that he could not hold the low countries and with drew to the french border.

Once German forces were massed along the border French forces retreated depper into france, scared of the massed german firepower. German forces paused for a few weeks to regain org, and the press the offensive. All forces were massed across the river from paris, German pnazers moved to the south to attack via the land bridge and bring the fight to paris over land. French forces attacked these panzers from paris, striaght away Hitler saw his chance and ordered and all out assult on paris from all sides. The Battle was joined and going well for Germay, French forces haltered there attack on the panzers to defend paris, so the panzers joined the fight as well. After a few short days paris fell and a week later the vinchy event fired.

So from april to october Poland was a hard fight a good 6 months of fighting. For France and the low countries less then 3 months was needed to deal with them, a pleasing result. Now Germany lies in control of all of Europe 6 months early, Hitler is ineed happy with the turn of events. All the allied resitance had done was to make the Germans angry and you dont want to be aorund when that happens.

Good session. Our next time might be Saturday but more likely monday, due to 7 player game sunday.
 

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You getting too excited for nothing mate... Just do what ever you want. I am only speaking from past experience as having played the USA and have found that USA entry in 1940 kills the game but like I said feel free to play how you see fit. Having played the USA before I found moving the intervention slider from the start of 1936 can bring the USA into the war late 1939 or 1940. So I have no idea what your intentions are and no one else does but before we play a game with so many players in the future we will write down the house rules before starting for everyone to see and not assume that everyone knows them.
 

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Fair enough gezeder, just let us know if your about to join an alliance or war so i can grab a save incase everyone dose object. Was our game time on sunday, 5pm or 7pm?

No probs, will do.

Major - Written house rules sounds good to me, things are a little murky still, especially with the crossover to HOI2 I rekon. But we can talk house rules later when we're deciding what they should be I guess.

Regarding our game, I can make 5pm no probs, from memory someone needed to check whether they were available -

Can everyone else make 5pm Sunday for the 7 player game?

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I can make it if I'm not still hungover from the victory celebration I'll be having saturday night :D

GO POWER :cool:
 

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It was me who was not sure on 5pm start...I wont know till about 2 hours before so I will SMS mike on the mobile About 3pm and he can post on the forum for me. Otherwise it will have to be 7pm but leave it at 5pm for the moment.
 

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With house rules Gez, remeber this is our first large game in HOI 2 so it will always have a few issues to sort out. Im sure as different situations present it self there will be more discussions, sometimes heated, but thats only because were passionate about the game and who we play. Just remeber this group was soley formed to create good long fun games, and house rules will come into it as we work them out. Bear in mind though I alway like to see how a few games pan out befor rules are put in place as what one player see as a problem might not be the same for another who plays that nation.

Game time is set for 5pm. If major lets me know other wise it will be 7pm. Cyas then. Go the West Coast.

P.S Go Brisbane, down with port, hehehe BB.
 

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Hey mike, Brisbane almost overan us at the end there but Port hang on to win by 2 points :)
 

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Apologies for tonight

Hi guys - unable to play tonight -- we have family arriving, but the aircraft broke down. It is now going to bypass Portland and now I have to pick mum up from Mt Gambier (2.5 hours return journey) --- apologies to all.

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OK Albatross, we have to have a fillin for you or play without you tonight, as everyone else is showing up. Game is on fo 5 pm.
 

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Finally I'm up and running again with internet access.

My availability is still very limited, however if anyone is keen on some smaller weekend games, let me know. I'm basically available only Tuesday day, and weekends from now on, but I'd like to get back into a game.

Hope the current game pans out well.
 

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joel said:
Finally I'm up and running again with internet access.

My availability is still very limited, however if anyone is keen on some smaller weekend games, let me know. I'm basically available only Tuesday day, and weekends from now on, but I'd like to get back into a game.

Hope the current game pans out well.

Joel if u want to I'm sure u could join our 7 player weekend game. Its not quite 1940 yet and I reckon we could fit u in a minor allied power like Canada or something. 8 players should wrok fine I reckon :)
 

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Yes Joel...we are currently playing a weekend game only...so far ir has been mostly Sunday nights but we have 7 players in it at the moment. look forward to having you back.

Game update 7 player game

War has started and Germany has Annex Denamrk, Poland and the Low countries and has taken Gilbralter with the help of Nationlist Spain. Meanwhile the Russians are currently in the process of bringing communism to Afganistan, Finland and Persia. Italy DOW on Yugslavia and quickly had Romania and Turkey DOW on Italy to defend their regions. Yugoslavia was quickly annexed and a peace made with Romania. After a Russian protest the Italians will seek to make peace with the Turks and no Axis troops will enter Turkey until the USSR has entered the war or Russia will DOW the Axis immediatley.

Japans hostile recpetion to any negotiations and interference in Russian domestic affairs has resulted in a Russian build up on the Chinese border as tensions rise. A DOW is iminent unless the Japanese are willing to negotiate on an extension of an existing NAP.
 

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Would be good to have you onboard joel, next session for 7 player game is set for 6pm Sunday if you can make it.

On the issue of Turkey, a correction needs to be made on the foolish Soviet comments. Italy is not part of the Axis, the only agreement made was between Italy and the USSR on no italian troops in turkey. The USSR was going to DOW on Italy over Turkey DOW on Italy, Germany promply reminded Stalin of our agreement with the MR pact which keeps both sweden and turkey netrual to both our nations. A DOW on Turkey by the USSR would not be tolerated as it is a breach of our agreement. If an unforseen event occurs such as Turkey DOW on another nation then dicussions should be had on what can be amended in our agreement. This stance was backed by Japan in a joint stand against Soviet aggression. The USSR backed down and made a seperate deal with Italy.

Only issue is by Not letting Italy invade Turkey, is the Italians will now have a war economy until they join the main event, which will greatly help them against the UK. A better solution might have been to allow Italy to take half of turkey and USSR half or something along those lines. In any event Turkey should not be left at war with Italy, i support any Italian drive to end the war which Turkey started. Im sure Italy will take the USSR's concerns into account.