Hitler Portrait

[Broletariat90]

I've noticed in some of the World War Wednesdays that the portrait of Adolf Hitler has been censored. Will it be censored in the U.S release or is it just for Germany and Austria? I'm also curious as to why this has been done since I've never seen him or other Nazi leaders being censored out of previous installments of this game. I'm sure I'm not the first person to bring this up but I am curious.

 

[Nelfe]

It's censored only in Germany (and Austria, but I don't know the law about nazi stuff in this country). Dunno why they play with the censored version - maybe because the diffusion of the WWW could be banned in theses countries if they play with the uncensored one, or maybe because it's banned in Sweden too.

 

[Vidkjaer]

Try searching threads in the forum...
Germany has laws banning certain material regarding Hitler and some other stuff. The faded image will be in the German version.
In earlier HOI versions his image was a real picture. In HOI4 it is a cartooned image. There is the difference i guess.

 

[Broletariat90]

It's censored only in Germany (and Austria, but I don't know the law about nazi stuff in this country). Dunno why they play with the censored version - maybe because the diffusion of the WWW could be banned in theses countries if they play with the uncensored one, or maybe because it's banned in Sweden too.

That's what I thought, that they wanted the streaming sessions to be seen by everyone hence why they are using that version. Guess I just answered my own question.

 

[Mioman]

It's censored only in Germany (and Austria, but I don't know the law about nazi stuff in this country). [...]

Do you have a link for that? That would be the first time I have read it. IIRC they only shadow him in the USK-Region (Which does not contain Austria, last time I have checked)

 

[LordOfWar16]

It's censored only in Germany (and Austria, but I don't know the law about nazi stuff in this country). Dunno why they play with the censored version - maybe because the diffusion of the WWW could be banned in theses countries if they play with the uncensored one, or maybe because it's banned in Sweden too.

austria gets the international version, which supports all languages. Austria doent censor nazi stuff in games, but are usualy stuck with the censored german version since the big publishers wont bother making 2 german versions.

 

[Nelfe]

Do you have a link for that? That would be the first time I have read it. IIRC they only shadow him in the USK-Region (Which does not contain Austria, last time I have checked)

austria gets the international version, which supports all languages. Austria doent censor nazi stuff in games, but are usualy stuck with the censored german version since the big publishers wont bother making 2 german versions.

I didn't know for Austria (I referred to an old topic), thanks for the clarification

 

[FruitcakeFTW]

Can anybody clarify whether they will censor it in Switzerland? Although Switzerland doesn't have laws regarding Nazi and Hitler stuff, like Austria and Germany, we tend to get lumped in with them by game devs and often get the censored versions.

 

[LordOfWar16]

Can anybody clarify whether they will censor it in Switzerland? Although Switzerland doesn't have laws regarding Nazi and Hitler stuff, like Austria and Germany, we tend to get lumped in with them by game devs and often get the censored versions.

the international version, which austria and switzerland gets includes all languages including german. There is only a seperate version for germany.

 

[Glustrod]

As this is just a pic shouldn't it be able to replace very very easy with a mod? (Just like Flags)
So people can revert that change easily and paradox doesn't have any kind of discussion about this.

 

[Augustus93]

It's censored only in Germany (and Austria, but I don't know the law about nazi stuff in this country). Dunno why they play with the censored version - maybe because the diffusion of the WWW could be banned in theses countries if they play with the uncensored one, or maybe because it's banned in Sweden too.

It is definitely not banned in Sweden.

 

[potski]

Stop getting anxious about a non-issue. The devs said in WWW that you can just enable the pictures, if you want to see the evil bastard's face. Daniel didn't.

That option won't be available in Germany, for legal reasons.

Previous versions shipped as a single German language version, that some distribution outlets shipped to other places that spoke German (Austria, Switzerland), but HOI4 is delivered by Steam. Steam knows exactly what country you are in, and provides content accordingly. Not least because it needs to know what currency you will be paying in.

They confirmed that in Scotland (?) Hitler's face can be enabled. And I think you can take it that the presenter (who is from Scotland) meant that this could be done everywhere in the world, except Germany.

 

[LordOfWar16]

Stop getting anxious about a non-issue. The devs said in WWW that you can just enable the pictures, if you want to see the evil bastard's face. Daniel didn't.

That option won't be available in Germany, for legal reasons.

Previous versions shipped as a single German language version, that some distribution outlets shipped to other places that spoke German (Austria, Switzerland), but HOI4 is delivered by Steam. Steam knows exactly what country you are in, and provides content accordingly. Not least because it needs to know what currency you will be paying in.

They confirmed that in Scotland (?) Hitler's face can be enabled. And I think you can take it that the presenter (who is from Scotland) meant that this could be done everywhere in the world, except Germany.

You can quiet easiely buy uncensored or censored keys for steam. It doesnt download it according to your location, but what version you activated. An austrian might aswell somehow buys an censored german verison, while an german can quiet easiely buy an uncensored international key and activate and download the game on steam. If you got an uncensored key steam will download the uncensored verison, regardless of your location.

 

[rjohansen]

The censored face was also for some of the generals I belive they said on stream, but still, only for the Germans. I think it was a very cool picture anyhow, and a nice way around the German laws.

 

[Montanegrianlemon]

Would the censorship be activated only in Germany? Or in Israel too? Because we too have strict laws regarding nazism and fascism

 

[Maizel]

The German censors are ridiculous. I am glad I don;t live there where games are concerned.

 

[Miragu]

I dunno, I personally think the darkened pic makes him look cooler and all mysterious-ish.

 

[Maizel]

I dunno, I personally think the darkened pic makes him look cooler and all mysterious-ish.

I agree, the pic is pretty badass, but the reasons behind having to do it are just worthless.

As if the German players are going to ask themselves. 'Who is that?'

It;s like bleeping 'shit' or 'fuck' on US TV. Completely useless.

Apparently the German censors think it;s completely cool to simulate the aggression of Nazi Germany during that period, but seeing an animated portrait of Hitler cause them to be like. 'Oh nononono, this is too much for our citizens'

German gamers must feel like they are being treated like children sometimes.

 

[Wulf145]

You can quiet easiely buy uncensored or censored keys for steam. It doesnt download it according to your location, but what version you activated. An austrian might aswell somehow buys an censored german verison, while an german can quiet easiely buy an uncensored international key and activate and download the game on steam. If you got an uncensored key steam will download the uncensored verison, regardless of your location.

I wouldn't be too sure about that, Steam does have the capability to ensure that you only get the censored Version based on your Account and location.
It will be interesting to see how long it will take those Players resident in Germany to 'free' their Games, since It will not be aesthetically pleasing having just one portrait clouded out.

 

[LordOfWar16]

I wouldn't be too sure about that, Steam does have the capability to ensure that you only get the censored Version based on your Account and location.
It will be interesting to see how long it will take those Players resident in Germany to 'free' their Games, since It will not be aesthetically pleasing having just one portrait clouded out.

i got the uncensored version of HoI III aswell and tons of other uncensored games on my german steam account. It is allowed by law to be able to aquire and play those games as an grown adult, they simply cant publicly advertise it in germany if it doesnt recieve an usk badge, which very rarely happens these days. The USK has no authority to ban games in germany since it is an private institute and the court barely in very rare extreme exceptions actually does that.

Steam games are sold as versions and you always download what you bought. The only exception are russian keys, which are geo-blocked due to all those keyshop selling them basicly for nothing in europe. If you activate an uncensored version of an game you can download the uncensored version, regardless of your location. Even Amazon does offer imported Austrian and UK versions of games which are of course PEGI rated but still legal in germany.