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If certain conditions are met, such as Berlin being captured by the Soviets, will the German player/AI be presented with a choice to have Hitler kill himself? If so, it should definitely include a national unity hit, as it was Hitler's fanatic refusal to let his generals surrender that kept Germany in the war until the very end.
Given Paradox's alternate historical options, I think it would be interesting to add an event after the fall of Berlin something like this:

The sound of gunshots emanating from the Reichstag building has stopped and now a red banner flies from it's roof. The Bolshevik hordes now close in on the Reich Chancellery, all hope of defending Berlin is lost.
  • "The war is not lost, we will fight on until the last man falls!" (Capitol changes to Flensburg)
  • "It's over, appoint Dönitz chancellor." ...................................(Capitol changes to Flensburg, Karl Dönitz becomes leader, National Unity changes to 50%)
  • "It's over, appoint Goebbels Chancellor." .............................(Capitol changes to Flensburg, Joseph Goebbels becomes leader, National unity changes to 60%)
  • "It's over, this war has gone on long enough." .....................(Germany capitulates)
I realize that by that stage of the game, none of these decisions will really matter, but ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 
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Since the game is a sandbox, I think it might be interesting for any fascist state (or faction leader?) to have an event like this. Imagine a ruthless, fascist American Leader, finally beaten back into a stronghold below Washington, DC making the final decision of his reign...
 
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Since the game is a sandbox, I think it might be interesting for any fascist state (or faction leader?) to have an event like this. Imagine a ruthless, fascist American Leader, finally beaten back into a stronghold below Washington, DC making the final decision of his reign...

Now that's an image and a half. Good idea.
 
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It would also be cool to have the possibility of a coup or at least for the July 20th Plot with a chance of success if you start losing the war.
Yes! And the possiblity of someone even madder getting into power after Hitler dies, e.g. Heydrich (he died in '42.. but what if..)
 
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It would also be cool to have the possibility of a coup or at least for the July 20th Plot with a chance of success if you start losing the war.

Assasination plots for any country? Yes please!
 
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And Hitlers face permanently darkened in the chancellery gardens...

Seriously, I would like a very small possibility of a successful assassination and anti-nazi coup. This maybe giving internal dissent, but a boost to the army efficiency.
 
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To be honest, his wasn't in the best of health for the last few years of his life, a death event would be interesting!
 
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the 20th of july coup attempt should have the option to bring Goerdeler to the position of HoG-after all he was the designated chancellor for after the coup would have been succesfull- but he probably only should be interim and after the war you should get an event which brings Wilhelm the third on the throne, because after all they were monarchists and had plans to reintroduce the monarchy
 
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It would also be cool to have the possibility of a coup or at least for the July 20th Plot with a chance of success if you start losing the war.

You want a coup chance for facsist countries when they lose the war? How would this be measured? National Unity threshhold?
could be interesting, but what would that change? (besides roleplay of course)
 

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Killing himself event!? You mean escaping to Argentina event. We could have a DLC on that, "In search of Hitler" where you build a spy network trying to pinpoint where he is.
 
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Killing himself event!? You mean escaping to Argentina event. We could have a DLC on that, "In search of Hitler" where you build a spy network trying to pinpoint where he is.

We all know that...he was shift supervisor at the Argentina VW plant until 1964...

 
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Des Irae Götterdammerung (i'm gonna pretend thats how it's spelled) had an event that essentially let you choose whether an assassination plot was successful. Pretty good way to do it, gives the player the power instead of RNGsus.
 
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Why would it matter? We are playing a power higher then the leader of a country...more like the war god of the country...who pulls the strings on everybody and everything. Hitler is a nobody comparted to the power I wield over Germany
 
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When I think about it: why not? Every other PDX game seems to be about a succession of leaders, be it presidents winning elections or dictators dying. So why not have a scenario where Hitler dies, but where maybe one of his cronies take over?

Since the game is a sandbox, I think it might be interesting for any fascist state (or faction leader?) to have an event like this. Imagine a ruthless, fascist American Leader, finally beaten back into a stronghold below Washington, DC making the final decision of his reign...
"...MacArthur couldn't raise enough men."
 
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Why would it matter?

Government reset chance. Constitutional Monarchy switch to "Democracy", different National Spirits, broker a reasonable peace with the Allies/outright flip through peace and then joining the Allies if you're awesome enough at diplomacy, allowing you to negotiate a thoroughly reasonable peace with SU? Possibly end up with some of the territorial gains from the early game retained, and drive the Iron Curtain waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay back. Also, monarchy.

If it's a focus, could be an attempt at a diplomatic solution to the war if played late on, or a straight-up democracy/allies alignment if played early. Kinda depends where in the tree it'd go. As an event, it'd be the former.
 
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