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Ooohaaaa! Peace with Britain at last. That should make things very interesting indeed...

...and I like the way you handled the Louisiana land purchase...or rather the lack thereof. Keep the blighters under your thumb! :p
 

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Rocky Horror - actually, it's NOT already done. I committed the cardinal sin of writing all the way up to the game's stopping place. And then put in some 'filler' and posted it, so I'm not really sure what's going to happen next. There are no recent posts because 1) I'm playing the game, and 2) my writing stinks just now and I'm trying to figure out why.

I can tell you that it seems to take much too long to move armies about in this scenario. Admittedly he planned well in advance but Napoleon took the Grande Armee from the Channel into southern Germany (Ulm, west of Munich) in only a few weeks. It's going to take all of 1804 to get the boys home from Britain, and there's no offensive taking place without those troops. In fact if I landed them on the Channel coast of France it might take them a year to march to the Mediterranean coast, which is pretty slow for a Napoleonic army.

And another thing - admittedly, France starts out with an enormous army, but with her economy (and inflation rate) she can rarely draft more than 10 - 15 thousand infantry in a year and have the money to do anything else.

As for diplomacy, forget about it - no money, no diplomats, crappy diplo ratings for the ruler (altho Napoleon is slightly better than the Directory).

Ranting? Nah. Frustrated with the freakin' Austrians, who are down 44% in war score and won't take any kind of peace? Oh, yeah, baby - just lookin' for that missing can of whoop-ass.

For reasons that will become clear later, your preferred amphibious strike has merit. This is NOT a hint or a clue - I haven't played it all out yet - but have you considered the practical effect of landing an army in Istria only to have the Poles make peace and free up the whole Austrian army to hit you? Amphib strikes HAVE to succeed; reinforcement is tough and retreat can be fatal. I would prefer to make my strike overland so as to keep my army between the Austrians and France. Then the amphib 'knife in the back' for a finishing blow.

There are two good reasons for taking the 'Alpine' road and two reasons against: They have minimal forts and it's a direct shot across Switzerland to Austria. The two negatives are the BB hit for a non-CB war and the fact that you can't annex the 2 provinces - and since both run north/south, taking one province does no good.

Stay tuned.

MrT - You snuck up on me while I was posting! Yeah, being greedy I decided to keep Louisiana. And given that the historic reasons for the sale - fear the Brits would take it and need for cash - no longer obtain, I think I'm on solid ground there.

OK, it's official - I have writer's indigestion. Not block, just... frustration. Lots of neat ideas that don't fit together.

So I'm going to go play the game and actually base the story on that. :D How's that for a radical idea?
 

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In fact if I landed them on the Channel coast of France it might take them a year to march to the Mediterranean coast, which is pretty slow for a Napoleonic army.

Sounds like you ran face first into the reason a few trolls were whinging right after EU2 came out- it does, in all honesty, a pretty crap job of simulating the Napoleonic era.

As for the amphibious strike- Dalmatia and Istria both have minimal forts IIRC from your post... Landing two largish armies and Splitting them so that there's only about 5,500 infantry in either province, and move the rest of the troops up to the north; the Balkans, Krain, Steiermark... And hold off any reinforcments nad wander the countryside defeating small forming armies, and you should buy time for at least one province to have fallen.

Of course, I'm really just looking for excuses not to go through Switzerland. Those cuckoo clocks are SCARY.
 

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Well, the writing still looks good to me Director.

I wish I'd read your post about tactics when you posted it though. I think you're missing something fundamental. If you attack Savoy then you will be at war with England, Prussia and Spain again, but if you ignore them, you will get peace again once you vassalise Savoy rather than annex them outright. Given that Helvetia has two provinces, you will still need to use vassalisation or military access there in any case. Added advantages include faster access into Austria, particularly for troops on ships, along with extending the truce with Spain.

Of course, I'm probably too late, or just plain wrong, but I thought a second opinion was needed.
 

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Originally posted by Owen
Well, the writing still looks good to me Director.
To be more precise, I should have said that my writing was overrrunning my gameplay; I was writing more and more about less and less. So I've taken a little time off and I'm ready to get 'back on track'.

I wish I'd read your post about tactics when you posted it though. I think you're missing something fundamental. If you attack Savoy then you will be at war with England, Prussia and Spain again, but if you ignore them, you will get peace again once you vassalise Savoy rather than annex them outright. Given that Helvetia has two provinces, you will still need to use vassalisation or military access there in any case. Added advantages include faster access into Austria, particularly for troops on ships, along with extending the truce with Spain.
Of course, I'm probably too late, or just plain wrong, but I thought a second opinion was needed.
First off, it's certainly not too late, and even if it was too late for the story it's never too late to discuss the strategic and operational arts.

My goal right now is to be at peace with everyone, even if it's only briefly. My war exhaustion is climbing and the revolt risk - especially in the colonies - is uncomfortably high. My thinking was that if I attack Savoy I'll have to beat all the major powers all over again for peace - and I don't think France can stand it.

I don't understand how ignoring the other major powers and vassalizing Savoy gets me peace. Not criticising here - I just don't see it. Please explain. Do you mean that Savoy would be the military leader of the new alliance and a peace with her would bring peace with the others? That would be something to think on.

The diplomatic screen shows each of the major powers as the Aliiance leader.

Starting the scenario at war, I had to overrun half of Spanish North America and Mexico to get a White Peace! I have a 44% war score with Austria, and they won't pay tribute or take a White Peace. So in my experience so far, ignoring them is not an option. :)

Declaring war on Helvetia is a temporary expedient to get access to Austria. Annexing one of their provinces gets France nothing because the capital province blocks the route to Austria. So a peace for military access and/or vassalization would be acceptable. I'd go the diplomatic route and 'buy' access except I have few diplomats and no money. :D

The purpose of showing '5 Roads to Vienna' was to demonstrate that most of them wouldn't work. :)
 

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Well,

Declaring war against Savoy will get you into war against Savoy, Spain, England and Prussia. Austria will not be in that war, because you are already at war with them.

Now, this immediately means your armies can reach Austria through Savoy, but since Austria are not in the same war as Savoy, they cannot enter Savoy to reach you unless they already have military access. Your war against Savoy depends on capturing Piedmonte reasonably quickly so you do not have to engage with Spain. England and Prussia are not a problem since you have just destroyed all their troops and navies.

Once you've captured Piedmonte, you can annex them, but that would defeat the point, since then Spain would become the primary enemy in the war. At 100%, you can take their vassalage, and even military access to make sure.

As long as you make peace with Savoy as the war alliance leader, you immediately reach peace with Spain, Prussia and England again. You can even allow Spain to capture a few of your provinces, since they'll be returned to you when you make peace with Savoy. In fact, if Spain come to fight you, you should run away, unless large numerical superiority means you would do better to finish them off.

Once you have vassalised Savoy, you have a shorter route into Austria than you would have through Helvetia, with, IIRC, a higher attrition limit.

Having said all that, I don't know what the fortress level in Savoy is, and it might take some time. Really you should have declared war on Savoy when you were still at war with all her allies, meaning that particular war would be against Savoy alone. You could then have taken control of the province, but waited to annex until your armies in Britain and Prussia were freed up. If I ever get round to playing as Napoleonic France, I'll know what to do. :D
 

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Originally posted by Owen
Declaring war against Savoy will get you into war against Savoy, Spain, England and Prussia. Austria will not be in that war, because you are already at war with them.
To make it more complicated, Russia has been added to the Alliance. Man, I wish I could put together an alliance of six nations! And yes, Austria has military access in every German country I know of.

Now, this immediately means your armies can reach Austria through Savoy, but since Austria are not in the same war as Savoy, they cannot enter Savoy to reach you unless they already have military access. Your war against Savoy depends on capturing Piedmonte reasonably quickly so you do not have to engage with Spain. England and Prussia are not a problem since you have just destroyed all their troops and navies.
Spain has no troops in Iberia worth mentioning; Britain is busy putting down revolts in Edinburgh and Hanover. :D

Once you've captured Piedmonte, you can annex them, but that would defeat the point, since then Spain would become the primary enemy in the war. At 100%, you can take their vassalage, and even military access to make sure.

As long as you make peace with Savoy as the war alliance leader, you immediately reach peace with Spain, Prussia and England again. You can even allow Spain to capture a few of your provinces, since they'll be returned to you when you make peace with Savoy. In fact, if Spain come to fight you, you should run away, unless large numerical superiority means you would do better to finish them off.

Once you have vassalised Savoy, you have a shorter route into Austria than you would have through Helvetia, with, IIRC, a higher attrition limit.

Having said all that, I don't know what the fortress level in Savoy is, and it might take some time.
Savoy has minimal fortifications - which doesn't seem right to me, given the importance of Turin, but there it is - which is a size that's safe and efficient to assault.

Given the evidence of the first war, with EACH major country being listed as the Alliance leader, I decided to experiment, and you are correct. Assaulting Savoy and forcing vassalization and military access does immediately cancel the war with Spain, England, Russia and Prussia. Sorry to doubt you, but it just didn't jibe with my experience earlier.

I suppose that's because France begins the scenario at war with those countries, but - trust me on this! - there are FIVE alliance leaders in the beginning, and getting a peace with one means nothing to the others. You have to methodically knock all the legs off before this alliance will topple.


Really you should have declared war on Savoy when you were still at war with all her allies, meaning that particular war would be against Savoy alone. You could then have taken control of the province, but waited to annex until your armies in Britain and Prussia were freed up. If I ever get round to playing as Napoleonic France, I'll know what to do. :D
Well, I was at war with Savoy, and had easy access to Austria through Hannover and Prussia. I grabbed Savoy (the province) and Sardinia but had to leave them the capital - Piedmonte. At the time it seemed more important to secure my eastern front against incursion from Austria - remember that knocking Britain out was my first priority, and required at least three armies. My largest army was occupied with Hannover and Prussia - there simply wasn't anything to spare for an attack on Austria, too.

And after wringing a peace from them, I didn't want to take the maluses for declaring war on Savoy when we had a truce.

If you don't mind making a small guest appearance, I'd love to use your strategy. :)
 

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Originally posted by Director
...If you don't mind making a small guest appearance, I'd love to use your strategy. :)
Director, it would be a pleasure. You can have me muttering about why you didn't take military access in the first place if you like :D

Oh yes, and I wonder whether Austria doesn't have access in every German country, but maybe they're the emperor. It may also be that Savoy starts out small, but your capture of the city in the previous war may have reduced the fortifications.

One last thing: I can't remember when you made peace with Savoy, but since you made peace with Spain quite early, and they still haven't attacked again, then your truce with Savoy must have only finished recently. I really hope it isn't still in place.
 

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“Well, there goes that plan,” Larry said, flinging the pointer down on the couch.

Napoleon was philosophical. “They were alone, and you cannot expect them to remain alone. I think it is good strategy on their part to get into such a powerful alliance. But I would say we cannot go through Baden to Austria without passing through Wurttemburg, and if they are allies to Saxony, Denmark and Sweden it will be most inconvenient to fight them all. So we must pass through Switzerland; this we already had planned.”

Mike chimed in with, “Going through Switzerland may be difficult because of the terrain, but it is the strategy France actually used in the 1800 campaign that lead to Marengo. So we know it’s possible.”

“Have you seen our revolt percentages! War exhaustion outside France is 8% and rising! Our government’s more centralized than China, for cryin’ out loud! We have the most centralized government on the planet, and it’s killing us! France has got to have peace!”

Napoleon shrugged a massive Gallic shrug, with hands, arms, shoulders and torso all in motion. “What cannot be cured must be endured. We must bend all our thoughts to bringing Austria to peace and gain for ourselves a respite. We must hold off the revolts until we can bring our soldiers out of England. I know that the revolts trouble you, but they are not quite so serious as they might seem. It may be inconvenient to put down these revolts, but it will be fatal to attack Austria before we have massed our force. Else the Austrians will do to us as we did to the English navy, non? And defeat us in pieces.”

“Yeah. But we won’t be in a position to fight until next year at this rate.” Larry slumped down on the couch himself. “Half of 1804’s gone and we’re still shuffling men around. These armies just don’t move fast enough!”

Napoleon studied the great map on the game floor intently. “I fear you are correct; we must wait until the spring of 1805 to move. We can sail the first shiploads from England directly to Provence. That will be a little faster.”

Larry joined him at the edge of the dais overlooking the big map. “What’s that? Where’s that pointer… there, in Mantua. What’s that? I don’t believe this! How did they get there? How did they get there? Do you see that?”



Napoleon turned and looked squarely into the excited face of his partner. “The map does not lie. There are 32,000 Dutch troops around Mantua.”

Larry did an impromptu jig. “There’s no leader with them! Quick, find me a leader we can ship in there to steal that siege! This is our solution! All of a sudden I love the Dutch!”

“Massena and MacDonald are in Provence, and of the two, Massena would be my choice for such desperate work. But we must warn the poor Dutch about his… habits. He loots from the enemy, which is bad but perhaps forgivable. But he also charges his own men for supplies and robs their payroll, which is beyond excuse. Tell the Dutch he is in command of military affairs only; tell them not to let him near the money,” Napoleon cautioned. “But for all that, he fights like a tiger.”



“Crap,” Larry swore. “Sardinia just revolted. I’ll have to split the Adriatic fleet, get Massena and a couple of thousand infantry to Mantua, and use the rest of the fleet to convoy some troops out to Sardinia. I tell you, like the skunk told the porcupine, I’ve enjoyed about all of this I can stand!”



“What is this, the revolt of the month club? That makes three revolts in Sardinia in four months! What are our guys doing down there? Do those people just like the smell of burning buildings in the morning?”

Mike called across the room, “Welcome to Revolt Club for Men! I’m not just the President, I’m also a peasant in the revolution!” Bad as it was, the joke lightened the frustration a bit. “At least you already had an army down there when the last two revolts hit. Check the revolt risk.” Larry did; it was a whopping 8% in spite of France’s +3 stability.

“Hey, Larry? While we’re waiting for spring so Napoleon can get through Switzerland, let’s ship some more troops around through the Adriatic. We can tackle Lombardy or Istria while the Dutch take on Mantua.”

Larry paused the game. “The problem with sending more troops is that the only armies we have available are defending Provence and Savoy and I hate to uncover the south by moving them. Whatever we do, we’d better move fast. Poland just surrendered.”

All three groaned at the news. “Austria only got 6 gold and Russia got Poland as a vassal, but that means the Austrian armies will be coming back this way soon.”

“All we have at risk right now is Massena,” Mike argued. “Let’s get some guys ashore and take one of those smaller forts in Dalmatia or Istria, then work out a peace treaty.”

“Look! There’s another 15,000 Dutch headed across France toward Italy! Did I tell you I love the Dutch? Man, I love the Dutch!”



They spent hours in the little room, which might have been an office, or a storage-room – or a cell. The windows – barred - were high up on the white-plastered wall; the thick wooden door was unlocked, but two armed men lounged in the hallway.

Major Foster sat huddled on a huge chest in one corner, obviously agitated but focused completely on his own thoughts. Neither Army man had seen Harding since their arrival. What had set Hitchcock’s mind completely adrift was that when they’d been brought in he’d seen clear black letters on a sizable sign stating “East India Company” along with other words he didn’t have time to read. He’d been expecting the gang of toughs to haul them out into the swamps and kill them; the Company office block was as welcome a destination as it was bizarre. Try as he might, he just couldn’t put the pieces of this puzzle together. Finally, he decided that some horrible mistake had been made, and settled down in a chair to wait while the powers-that-be sorted it all out.

As if that had been a signal a young Hindu clerk came to fetch them, and the two – and their guards – went down the long, wooden-floored halls to a small conference room. No elegance or ostentation here; this was obviously a working headquarters for some branch of the Company.

Waiting for them was the same smiling young Eastern man they had last seen wielding a nightstick, now dressed in conventional, clerkish attire. He rose as they entered, and bade them be seated. As the young Hindu served tea and date-cakes, the Parsi studied them both intently. Brilliant sunshine in the courtyard blazed through the windows at his back, making his face all but unreadable in shadow; not accidental, Hitchcock was sure.

“My name is Farroukh Dalal, gentlemen. I am an agent of the Customs Service of the East India Company, and I have been assigned by the Company and the Crown to look into this matter. I regret any inconvenience this may have caused you, but the circumstances of the situation are unique, and I do have some questions I must ask.”

“Where’s Harding – what have you done with him! You cannot kidnap officers of the Royal Army! I demand to speak…” Foster ground to a stop as the Parsi smiled and raised one hand.

“Gently, Major. Gently. Let me tell you the facts as I see them. Your friend Harding – with your help – left Dacca with an immense sum in precious metals and gems. There was tribute from the rajahs, customs fees; rubies from Burma, emeralds from Peshawar, sapphires from Ceylon. There was coin and bullion for the China trade. Harding was acting on his own and completely without authority, did you know? Doubtless you thought he was acting under orders; perhaps he even told you so. But Dacca was in chaos and doomed to fall, and perhaps he saw his duty lay in that direction. It would have been a great misfortune for such a treasure to fall into French hands. Or those of looters and pirates.”

“After arriving here, he made a few inquiries which came to the attention of my own service. This is a small, investigative branch of the Customs; we deal in the strange and unusual for the Company. With discretion, always – discretion is the very Beginning and End for us. So we investigated, but could not persuade friend Harding to unburden himself to us. All that we knew was that he had come from Dacca, whence the treasure had vanished.”

“Given the urgency of the dispatches out of Dacca and the value of the missing materials, we decided that a more direct approach was needed. And so, this morning, we tracked down the ship and the warehouse and seized them both. And then we came for the three of you.”

“Because all of the treasure is gone, gentlemen. That godown contains many fine things, but of your consignment we can find no trace. Not even the imprint of those barrels remains in the dust of the floor. Our office in Dacca has quietly estimated its value at over half a million pounds – ah, you did not know? And friend Harding claims to know nothing of the current whereabouts of the treasure.”

“Which, you see, leaves me with you.”

“So let us begin at the beginning, yes? And do tell me everything, everything that was said, thought or done. For if I believe you, all is perhaps well; and if I do not, be assured your Royal Army will not lift a finger to help men accused of theft on such a scale.”



“He looks like an owl,” Van Driesche muttered. “An owl that can see guilders in the dark,” his compatriot returned, and they both had a quick laugh. “Knock the mud off your boots, Hendrik, before you go inside. You cavalrymen have no manners!” Van Driesche retorted before pushing open the door and clomping into the entry hall of the little manor house.

Major-General Andre Massena looked up from penning yet another protest to Paris, and his mouth worked briefly – very like an owl worrying its prey - as he gazed at the two Dutch officers. Then he stood, greeted them correctly if with an obvious lack of warmth, and motioned them to a large table covered in maps.

Massena had arrived in Italy with a high opinion of himself and a great regard for money, and hadn’t wasted a minute trying to get his hands on the army’s payroll, supply stocks and commissariat. He’d even sent French officers out to notify the Dutch units that they must pay fees to him for the ammunition they expended. And that ammunition came from Dutch magazines, too! A brutal meeting with Van Driesche had resulted, with the Dutchman pounding his fist on the French orders that stated – clearly – that Massena was allowed no authority over anything financial. Van Driesche had been forced to produce the letter from Napoleon authorizing him to have Massena removed, court-martialed and shot before the Frenchman would back down.

Since then Massena had confined himself to having his troops strip the manor houses in the area, but it had all lead to a certain frosty correctness in their meetings. It made for a very awkward chain-of-command.

A bellowed, “LeFarge!” brought Massena’s adjutant out of an adjoining room and an incandescent glare stopped Van Driesche from lighting his ever-present pipe. As much as he resented being treated like a raw recruit, Van Driesche had unequivocal orders to place himself and his men at Massena’s disposal in military matters, and he intended to obey. Massena’s orders had so far been as insightful and professional as his manner was grasping and unpleasant. Van Driesche could therefore justify subordinating himself to the more experienced – and higher ranking - French officer.

Which didn’t prevent him from writing his own protests home, or from indulging in some private speculation about whether his hands really would fit around the Frenchman’s thick neck. Every man, after all, must have dreams and ambitions!

Van Rijs grinned at him behind Massena’s back, and then the three bent over the large map of the city and its surroundings. A local map, judging by the florid ‘Mantova’ scrawled across the top and the place names all inked in Italian. “We have no proper siege train – and we are unlikely to receive any heavy artillery anytime soon. Accordingly, we must starve them out. The positions you have chosen for the artillery you do possess are generally acceptable, but we should move another battery of howitzers across the Mincio to the southeastern sector. I have reviewed your request to assault the Citadelle on the north bank, the one that guards the causeway of the Via Trento. I believe such an assault must fail. We have not breached the fort, and our artillery fire on the causeway is not sufficient to prevent the city garrison from reinforcing it at need. Nor, I think, could we launch an assault across that bridge with any hope of success.”

Van Driesche found himself nodding in reluctant agreement, beard and mustachios waggling as his mouth crimped in a rueful smile. He wished the French general were more likable, or less often correct – it was the combination of abrasive manners and genuine talent that was so difficult to abide. He hadn’t thought it wise to make that assault, although several of his colonels were eager to try it. He could sympathize - it was infuriating to merely sit here, day after day, popping off cannon at the distant walls and digging endless siege parallels. His men were impatient, but better perhaps to use up spades and gunpowder than to spend blood.

Speaking of which… “Our supply trains are arriving regularly from the coast and the Venetians are still turning a blind eye to our use of that little fishing village. The wind has held, and we have enough captured luggers to bring stores upriver faster than the army consumes them. The cavalry patrols report no problems.”

Massena sniffed. “The merchants of Venice hate the Austrians from long practice, but they fear them from recent experience. The Venetians will ignore us for a little time yet, at least while we pay them well. We must prepare then for the day the balance of their terror tilts against us. But my concern today is the Austrian column here, north of Lake Garda. General Van Rijs, do your scouts have current reconnaissance?”

“Yes, General. We believe it to be a small column of six to nine thousand infantry. They were coming down from Innsbruck through Bolzano and Trento, and have pitched camp around the latter city. We have not tried to work scouts around into the valley in their rear to intercept dispatches. There is no other Austrian force in the area.”

“There soon will be.” Massena’s mouth drooped into its usual pouting grimace. “I am informed by dispatch from an agent in Venice that Austria has accepted a peace with Poland, and we can expect her attention to turn to us with the coming of spring.”

He smiled sourly as the two Dutch officers stiffened in dismay. “The Emperor Napoleon is putting together an expedition to come by sea, but it will be spring before it can arrive, if then. So, General Van Rijs, you will give extra attention to reconnaissance, yes? Place some additional scouts in the north and northeast, if you please? And General Van Driesche, please speak to your men. Digging in winter is terrible work, but we should like to be inside Mantua’s walls when the Archdukes come, yes?”

“We cannot afford the losses from assaults on such works, gentlemen; I would not attempt such an assault with less than twice our numbers. We must siege them and starve them. And paradoxically, we must now try to do so quickly.”

“One last thing, General Van Driesche. I believe we should plan now how best to pull our troops from the parallels and mass them to the north for battle. If the Austrians do not come, it will be good practice for the lieutenants; they always benefit from such work. And if the Austrians do come, we will need to redeploy swiftly.”

And Van Driesche could only ruefully nod in agreement again.

Once they were safely outside, Van Rijs caught his superior by the elbow. “The Frenchman is truly worried, isn’t he, Adolph?”

“Yes, he certainly is,” Van Driesche allowed. “He didn’t mention money even once!”



Larry shook his head doubtfully. “Run that by me again?”

Mike was bouncing on his toes with excitement. “Just pick up the other phone, Larry, and talk to this guy!”

“Hi, Larry, this is Owen. I’m on the afternoon shift in Gaming Central. Mike asked me for a judges’ ruling, and here’s the result the computer gave me. If you declare war on Savoy you’ll take a –2 hit in stability and Britain, Spain, Prussia and Russia will almost certainly honor their alliance with Savoy. So you’ll be at war with all of them, plus you’ll take a BB rating increase.”

“If you conquer Piedmonte, which is Savoy’s only province, you’ll have a 100% war score. If you annex Savoy, everyone else in the Alliance stays at war with France. If instead you make Savoy your vassal and demand military access, everyone except Austria will accept the peace too. Austria won’t, because you’re at war with them now.”

“Just out of curiosity, why didn’t you demand military access when you invaded them the last time?”

Mike answered. “We wanted the provinces of Savoy and Piedmonte, and that pretty much ruled out getting anything else. I think. Mostly I guess we just didn’t think about it. I thought we’d be annexing them if we came back this way. So I guess you never know.”

Larry looked over at Mike. “If it really is this easy, then this is our opening. I’ll get the diplomats moving, and we’ll take the armies in Savoy and Provence and start them east right away.”

Mike hung up his handset. “Shouldn’t we wait for Napoleon’s army to come south?”

“No. I can’t explain it, Mike, but I think we’d better move fast. The Austrians have been so quiet for so long… and now there’s a big, juicy Dutch target on their doorstep with no place to retreat."

"What’s that line from Star Wars? ‘I have a very bad feeling about this.’”
 

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Originally posted by Rocky Horror
Siege stealing is the lowest form of warfare. :p :D
Considering the number of times he relieved sieges of and recaptured Dutch islands in the Caribean, I think its perfectly fair. However, quite why Director did that in the first place I really couldn't say.
 

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Originally posted by Owen
Considering the number of times he relieved sieges of and recaptured Dutch islands in the Caribean, I think its perfectly fair. However, quite why Director did that in the first place I really couldn't say.
Well, we can't have the Brits getting away with our ally's territory, can we? And the Dutch are our allies - at least I think they are. And every little Brit army I beat added to my war score.

I couldn't depend on the Dutch to take their own colonies back; they were too busy charging 20,000 Brits on Jamaica with 1000 Dutchmen at a time. It takes a long time to wear away 20,000 men like that...

And if you think I'm about to let the Dutch get control of northern Italy you are seriously mistaken!

Anybody else have a weakness for Tom Lehrer songs?

"Then France got the bomb, but don't you grieve;
They're on our side - I believe."
 

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Originally posted by Director

Anybody else have a weakness for Tom Lehrer songs?

"Then France got the bomb, but don't you grieve;
They're on our side - I believe."

Well, my father does :p

seriously though I have grown up through my teenage years on them, "Poisoning pidgeons in the park, dancing the Masochism tango, Been Prepared and ended up All go together when we we go" :D

I like them a lot, though it's been a few years since last time.

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”It is contrary to all true principle to make corps which have no communication act separately against a central force whose communications are open.”– Napoleon Bonaparte



Phillippe Joseph was an experienced diplomat, with a practiced eye for the nuances and niceties of diplomacy. He knew his mission was fruitless, knew to a fraction of a Republican meter what his hosts’ response would be – and from his reception on this occasion, he was wondering if his hosts knew his mission too.

Not that a French ambassador requesting an immediate audience with a sovereign whose nation belonged to an alliance hostile to France was anything alarming, he thought dryly. The Savoyards might seem dim and provincial compared to the glitter of Paris or Vienna, but he knew from experience they were sophisticated at plots and adroit in conspiracies.

The walls of the Palazzo Madama resembled a pink, layered confection in the wintry early-morning light. The guards were stiff, the functionaries who greeted him were formal and correct – and they left him in a sitting room for most of an hour.

He allowed no flicker of emotion to disturb the placid calm of his face, of course. Even though he had begun to wonder just how angry his hosts might become, he bowed in the appropriate places and uttered the expected pleasantries with the usual functionaries. At last he was ushered through the great rooms – the deep green of the Hall of the Swiss Guards he had always thought particularly lovely – and into a smaller chamber. In which chamber awaited King Victor Emanuel of Sardinia and his current chief advisor, Bishop Gaetano Morgagni.

Joseph had no illusions about his status with the new Imperial government in France; Turin was neither prestigious as Spain nor of the critical importance of Britain or Austria. He had grown old and gray in his country’s service, moving steadily upward from post to post in one little Italian or German princedom after another, and the ambassador’s post here had been a reward for a long career of faithful service to Kings as well as Republic. He’d kept his profile low and his service loyal without participating in any plots. His rise had not been high or fast, but he’d not lost his head to Doctor Guillotine’s little toy as had so many of his peers.

It said a great deal about this country, he was fond of quipping, that all of its names belonged to something else. The royal house of Savoy doesn’t own Savoy; the King of Sardinia doesn’t rule Sardinia, and they refuse to call it Turin or Piedmont. But here he was, with more pleasantries and obsequies to deliver to the threadbare royal master of a rump Italian city-state. All the while intently studying the King and the Bishop, and being scrutinized in return. No, he finally decided, they don’t know the details. And they aren’t going to serve any refreshments, so they know something unpleasant is coming.

“Your Highness, Your Grace. I am enjoined by His Imperial Majesty Napoleon of France to request that you allow his troops free passage across the territories of your Kingdom.” His instructions had been precise; be clear, concise and unmistakable.

There was a moment of strained silence while the two digested that. “The terms of our treaty of alliance with Austria and Great Britain would not permit such a thing, even if France had any legitimate reason for such a request,” the Bishop said into the silence. His voice was resonant and steady even as his hands clenched and unclenched atop his cane.

“French troops are liberating the city of Mantua and the entire valley of the Po from their Austrian oppressors. The Empire requires passage for its troops to reinforce its armies in the field, which is certainly a legitimate purpose. France is at peace with your kingdom, and with Great Britain.” That nation is utterly unable to come to your defense because we beat them bloody, he carefully did not say, but it hung there in the air nonetheless. “And our quarrel is solely with Austria.”

“Who is our sworn ally,” the Bishop retorted.

Who you have already deserted once in this war, Joseph thought. “Who did not support you in 1795 with a single dragoon. Who reneges on your subsidies, encroaches on your lands and insists on installing their advisors in your army and in your ministries,” he said in riposte. That should be sharp enough to make them jump.

His return volley left the Bishop scarlet and the King speechless with affront. Joseph did not envy them; Austria had been trying to swallow Italy for generations, and France had invaded the peninsula more than once. But his orders were clear, and diplomatic niceties had now to give way to ruthless realism.

“You may not speak to Us in such terms,” the King snapped, recovering his composure.

“Your Majesty, I may serve you best if I speak frankly. I must say that my government’s position is quite immovable. French troops will be marching through Piedmont, with your permission or without, as Your Majesty may choose. But those troops will move through. Not the single regiment of guards you maintain nor the walls of Turin nor yet any assistance from Austria will stop them. What Your Majesty may decide here today is how much of your kingdom he wishes to retain. France seeks no gold or territory, only permission to pass. Denied permission to pass, France may well wish to redraw the map into a more congenial shape.”

“And when the Emperor sees what we have done, Austria will have her pretext, and devour us. No! I will preserve the honor of my house, and stand by that treaty!”

“Then my business here is done, Your Majesty, and my embassy is ended. I must regretfully inform you that a state of war will henceforth exist between our nations. You will excuse me, I am sure, if I am unable to wish you well. I do hope we may soon meet under more pleasant circumstances.” Pleasant for us, he thought, and bowed his way out.



Pitt looked in horror at Grenville. “The Army is a rabble, the Navy a wreckage, the budget a shambles! And we are requested to go to war with France over Savoy! The clans have seized Glasgow and all of Strathclyde and are marching on Edinburgh, Baron! We must not have foreign adventures at this time lest the kingdom go down in ruin!”

“There is no help for it, Prime Minister. Unless we would disavow the treaty and be held up to other nations as weaklings and cowards, we must. Our own people would be enraged if we allowed ourselves to be so bullied by France. Questions would be asked in Parliament, and I fear a vote of confidence might go against us. The French ambassador has assured me, however, that France desires only passage through Turin and seeks no further war with us.”

Pitt sighed. “This will be difficult, Baron, I just know it. You must notify our allies that we shall stand by the treaty and with them. Make no promises to them about troops, or ships, or subsidies. And you must notify the French – privately - that so long as they limit themselves to passage through that Kingdom we will prosecute the war in name only.”

“And Baron? Contact the King of Prussia immediately. Let us hear what he thinks of this new plunge into war.”



Larry released the PAUSE button with his laser wand and the game began to move forward again. “Alright, people – move, move, move!” he chanted, flicking in new destinations for the armies in Savoy and Provence. It was the work of a second to start Napoleon’s Armee marching south around the bulge of Helvetia and into Italy.

He stared at the map for a few seconds and then dispatched an embassy to the Swiss with a nice set of gifts for the Confederation Council, just as insurance. France had not asked the Netherlands for assistance in her war on Savoy, so the Dutch troops were doggedly pursuing the siege of Mantua. But something was different…

Oh. The Austrians were moving.



Over the months of siege, the two senior Dutch generals and their scratch staff had settled into fairly comfortable lodgings in the south along the Canal de Pajolo, not far from Massena’s commandeered house. And as the months progressed, the three generals had grown more comfortable with each other, so it was not remarkable for them to be sharing a light luncheon while talking over ammunition stocks, cavalry forage and casualty lists. Amateurs talk strategy but professionals talk logistics, after all, and the siege would continue only so long as the army could be fed and equipped.

Van Rijs took the message from the cavalry galloper and read it with a frown. “That column of Austrian infantry that Alvintzy’s been holding up around Trento is on the move, but they turned west from Verona and my scouts lost them.”

Massena dabbed at his lips with his napkin and cut another small wedge of cheese. “Please reinforce your scouts, General. We must not lose sight of an enemy force maneuvering in our area.”

“I have only a few brigades of cavalry,” Van Rijs reminded the Frenchman patiently. His compatriot had indeed learned and mellowed, Van Driesche thought. Only a few months ago, the cavalryman would have edged as close to insult as he could, just to watch the Frenchman fume. “We are conducting extensive patrols in the north, around Lake Garda, and east to the Venetian border. We are patrolling the banks of the Mincio and the Po, and south down to the border with Modena. We are short of remounts, General, and we are stretched too thinly to also patrol the west.”

Massena chewed ruminatively on his cheese, took a swallow of wine and dabbed again with the napkin. “I have arranged for the purchase of two hundred horses through a contact in Modena, and we can secure more from the same source. These will, perhaps, ease our remount situation somewhat.”

“My concern is that our army is divided into two parts by the Mincio, and the problem is especially acute here at Mantua where the river broadens into the lakes. I have concern for an enterprising commander striking at an exposed part of our siege lines and defeating us in detail. After all, to reinforce one side or the other we must march up or downstream to a bridge or to boats.”

Van Rijs nodded slowly. “A couple of hundred remounts will help a great deal, General. I will pull some men in from patrolling the riverbanks and send them out by Verona in the morning.”



“He’s a devil, Adolphe! Satan with whiskers and a frock coat! How did he know?

“Because it is what I myself would have attempted,” the Frenchman said behind them, and smiled when they jumped like guilty children. “Thank you for the compliment, General Van Rijs. A touch of the satanic is an asset for a general officer, mais oui?”

The dawn light was beginning to creep in around the window curtains. Van Driesche’s orderly had built up the fire and was heating water for tea before Van Rijs and his messenger had come clattering in. Van Driese did not rise easily in the mornings, and he had been looking forward to a long, quiet mug of tea by the fireside to start his day.

“I estimated the Austrian daily marches and thought we might hear something from them today. What news, General Van Rijs?”

“The Austrians have turned back east, crossing the Mincio at Goito. They’re leaving small detachments at bridges and keeping their right anchored on the river as they come south. They’ll be up to our siege lines before noon.”

Massena sniffed. “Perhaps, perhaps not. The Austrians have always been leadfooted. Have your scouts been seen?”

“They say not, General, and the Austrians have no cavalry.”

“Then send out messengers to tell them to keep well back. The Austrians have gone to such lengths to surprise us, it would be a shame not to cooperate.”

Van Driesche smiled, a slow sharky unveiling of teeth. “We have a reserve down at the New Church, but that is south of the Mincio. Do we bring them up to the siege lines?”

“Non. We must make every effort to avoid any watchers in the city itself. Please pass the word to the officers in the north and west to be alert, but that reserve – and my French regiment – we will send west, out of sight of prying eyes.”

“But General – how will you cross the Mincio?”

“Before the Revolution I engaged in, shall we say, ‘creative commerce’; I was a smuggler, and a good one. Here is what we will do…”



General Josef Alvintzy knew it was time to insist on laying down his field command and moving into an administrative role. His seventy-year-old bones ached from the days he’d spent in the saddle, and from sleeping on the ground at night. The tent and baggage had been left back in Goito with the army’s supply trains. He thought they might get in one blow at the northwest corner of the siege lines and then stage a withdrawal. It might force the enemy to lift the siege, or not – but it was the only chance he had to take some action before the French armies arrived. He cursed whatever strategic mastermind had stuck him in Italy with half the enemy’s strength and no cavalry at all while tiny Poland must be covered with Austrian troops.

Still, his right flank was secured by the river, and no-one could break down his detachments rapidly enough to get across that stream before he could withdraw. The left flank was hanging open, but aside from some scattered horsemen he’d seen nothing. His division should be safe while it made one strike at the siege lines.

Ahead were the enemy works around the Citadella de la Favorita; time now to deploy his column and push down the Parcarello. He saw no signal flags fluttering from church spires, no mirror-flashes in the sun, so the lookouts in the city had seen no unusual activity in the enemy lines. He felt his throat going dry and his stomach tightening; old fool, he chastised himself and drank some watered wine from his flask. You should be used to this by now.

The men were moving steadily from column into their lines, accompanied by the inevitable encouragements of the sergeants and the din of the single Turkish-type band. The general didn’t care for the noise of the cymbals, but they certainly looked good when flourished in the sunshine.

The messenger, when he rode up, was surprised at his reception. ‘French force approximately brigade size attempting to cross at Rivalta. Reinforcements and instructions needed. M.’ Alvintzy merely smiled and nodded; a reinforced battalion was in hand for just such an eventuality. He sent them off with the messenger as a guide; Mihailovitch would know how to use them.

Before him, the French had obviously strengthened their outward-looking works. They had known he was coming then; well, he’d hoped for surprise but not counted on it. He detailed a few small companies to hold the flanks and started the white-coated lines forward.

After an hour, he was ready to concede that nothing further could be accomplished; the enemy was too strong here. Now to pull the lines in reverse, form them into a column and begin the withdrawal; time to move that last regiment into position as a rearguard. Stolid and steady in defeat or victory, the Serbian infantry could be relied upon absolutely.

Time now to read through the few messages that had come in. Nothing from Mihailovitch, but that wasn’t unexpected. Polish infantry was not reliable, generally, but most of the officers were solid and Mihailovitch was no exception.

It was only later, when he saw the dark uniforms arrayed across his line of retreat at Soave that he began to wonder what had happened.



Van Driesche had brought up the rear with a regiment from Alkmaar, arriving in time to see the Austrians attempt to break out to the north. Van Rijs had scraped up a little cavalry and hit them in the flank from the east as Massena’s brigade charged from the west. Order, counter-order and disorder told the tale; there couldn’t be a handful that escaped the wreckage. Alvintzy was dead, unfortunately; fell from his horse and broke his neck.

He could only shake his head in amazement. Despite Massena’s repeated warnings as to the danger of being too fancy, he thought the plan had worked well. The French had demonstrated with a large force across the river while landing a small one from luggers and taking the bridge from behind. The reinforcing regiment had been swallowed whole before they ever knew of their danger.



Larry paused the game, satisfied. The tiny Savoyard field army had been swept aside and the French had swarmed over the defenses of Turin without a check. Now Augereau’s forces were marching east for Milan and Napoleon’s were headed for the Tyrol. From there, they could serve as a cork in a bottleneck and prevent Austrian forces from entering Italy at all.



William Pitt sat behind his heavily laden desk and studied the three reports. All were good news - and therefore suspect, in this pessimistic new age – but they did seem to support each other. The first was a confidential minute from the Prussian court – they, too, intended to make a ‘pro forma’ declaration of war and then pray the French left them alone. Second was a copy of a draft treaty between France and Savoy, which relieved Britain of her alliance obligations. Third was a dispatch direct from Foreign Minister Tallyrand himself, assuring Britain that no offensive operations were planned outside Italy.

Well enough, then. Now to make some decisions about his country’s other problems.

The King had improved remarkably upon his return to London and was calm and rational most of the time. The rebels in Scotland were being negotiated with while the Royal Army was recruited back up to strength. Most worrisome were the reports from the churches; the recent defeat had linked Catholicism and the easy-going Church of England with the French occupation and the government failings that had allowed it to occur. A new kind of virulent Protestantism was abroad in the land, a sharper and more bitter flavor wafting down from the Scottish kirks like smoke from burning houses. A searching, intolerant rigor not seen since the Puritan days of Cromwell.

He rubbed his weary eyes and wondered why he had ever wanted this thankless, crushing job. Not that he or his party would likely survive the upcoming elections, but the mess had happened while he held office and he felt an obligation to clean some of it up.

The only reason the Loyal Opposition wasn’t calling for elections was that they didn’t want the damned job either.
 

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Looks good director.

How long do you think peace with Austria will take? You might as well go for taking a few provinces from them now you have the luxury of a truce with most of the rest of Europe.

I suppose the question is how many troops Austria have sat around at the moment? I would personally go for Lombardia, Mantua and Tyrol, but you could just go for vassalisation, which the Austrian ai might be more amenable to.