"Historical Setup" requirement for achievements seems excessive

[pplanet]

After wondering for quite some time why my Re-Reconquista isn't popping, I've come to the conclusion that it must be because I had accidentally set my game to "Normal Setup" (despite not wanting any custom nations, of course).

It would seem to me that the NOT = { num_of_custom_nations = 1 } requirement already covers the scenario where the player tries to cheese an achievement by spawning custom nations, so why do we also need the is_playing_historical_setup = yes? Unless there's a good reason to keep it, could this please be relaxed?

Also, if it can't be relaxed, it would be really useful if this was documented somewhere within the game - preferably in the form of a big pop up saying "WHOAH THERE SLUGGER, YOU'RE NOT GONNA GET ACHIEVEMENTS WITH THOSE HERE OPTIONS" before the start of the game.

 

[hobsen]

You can get achievements on normal setup, I tested that with marchy march. You must be missing something else. Do you have the baleares islands? Does a vassal own an iberian province?

 

[magnusvejby]

Do you have random basetax? that is mabey why.

 

[pplanet]

You can get achievements on normal setup, I tested that with marchy march.

When have you done this? It appears that today's patch has changed the requirement to normal_or_historical_nations = yes. Which, well... pretty much addresses my problem. Now to see if I can somehow bully the game into giving me an achievement for the old save.

You must be missing something else. Do you have the baleares islands? Does a vassal own an iberian province?

I do have the Baleares, and all Iberian Peninsula provinces are directly owned by Granada.

Do you have random basetax? that is mabey why.

Nope, not it either

 

[GChapman]

Also, if it can't be relaxed, it would be really useful if this was documented somewhere within the game - preferably in the form of a big pop up saying "WHOAH THERE SLUGGER, YOU'RE NOT GONNA GET ACHIEVEMENTS WITH THOSE HERE OPTIONS" before the start of the game.

At this stage it is not clear ingame when you can get achievements. Before patch 1.10, it was easy: Ironman means achievements. No ironman means no achievements. Now they add stuff to ironman, so you arent allowed to get achievements. So '' Ironman means achievements. No ironman means no achievements.' isn't true anymore.
Just having one mode that allows achievements will solve the problem. PI will add a new mode in the futher, so there will be 1 mode in which you can get achievements and there will be two others in which you can't get achievements. Don't ask me why they want two modes for non-achievements, but PI likes that idea.

 

[pplanet]

As long as there's a clear achievement mode, I'm happy.

Also, I can now confirm that today's patch fixed my direct issue.

 

[hobsen]

I checked it in 1.10 when I found out that I started all my games in normal mode and not historical mode. Turned out there was a good reason why I didn't get that achievement earlier. Anyways 1.11 is here now and has made things much clearer

 

[Wizzington]

Normal mode gave achievements in 1.10, the trigger was just a bit poorly named.