Historical rulers

[Baxil]

The period covered by EU4 saw some of the greatest rulers of all times. In my opinion, these rulers (such as Soliman, Elizabeth, Gustavus Adolphus, Napoleon, etc.) deserve to be represented in the game and I would love to play with them and have them appearing.

Therefore an event could make these "Truly divine rulers" heirs, or directly rulers in case of republics, of their country if some conditions are met (conditions like country, year, dynasty, government form, etc.). These rulers should have very good stats, from 4/4/4 to 6/6/6. Any county cannot have more than one historical ruler.
For the ones who don't want them, an option should be included in the event giving the choice to refuse the ruler.

I think that such a simple thing like this would greatly improve the experience for players that like to have a more historical feeling with the game, while it won't change the game for people who want a more sandbox experience.

 

[MoreHistory]

YESSSSSS. That would be awesome. This would totally make the game more realistic. Hopefully your idea comes through my man.

 

[PanzerKrigs]

I'd support the idea, if the game-rules had an option to toggle it on and off, like "lucky nations".

 

[t6.28]

Napoleon can already be gained through French revolution events. Anyway, I do support that idea.
By the way, in case you were wondering: This is how the god like leaders are currently defined in the history files:
Süleyman: 6/5/6
Elizabeth: 6/6/5
Gustav Adolf: 6/6/6, 6/5/6/1 leader
Napoleon: 6/3/6, 6/6/6/2 leader (the event one is a 6/5/6 though)
Friedrich der Große: 6/6/6, 6/6/6/1 leader

 

[Timewalker102]

Like the Women in History events, but with men?

 

[George LeS]

You can write events to do this. I tested my historical leader events from EUIII, with EUIV, and they worked. I did have monarch events as well, which did work, but I thought more trouble than it's worth. But it can be done.

 

[Trin Tragula]

Sidestepping the game rules in this particular way is something we try to do rarely and for existing events mostly when there was something special there in regards to both the rulers legacy and the way he/she got into power (see Napoleon or Sher Shah Sur).
The women in history events are a bit different in this regard but they are after all optional and meant to allow a bit of a detour/what if.
I can't speak for the designers on whether this could be done on a larger scale but I doubt it.
There's of course nothing to say it might be done for a specific situation where it might be justified (like the exceptional cases we already have in the game). There's always a fine line between flavor and too much railroading though.

 

[moscal]

In early EU3 was a option "historical ruler" - not worked good.

 

[Grand Historian]

Sidestepping the game rules in this particular way is something we try to do rarely and for existing events mostly when there was something special there in regards to both the rulers legacy and the way he/she got into power (see Napoleon or Sher Shah Sur).
The women in history events are a bit different in this regard but they are after all optional and meant to allow a bit of a detour/what if.
I can't speak for the designers on whether this could be done on a larger scale but I doubt it.
There's of course nothing to say it might be done for a specific situation where it might be justified (like the exceptional cases we already have in the game). There's always a fine line between flavor and too much railroading though.

What about having it done in another Women in History-like DLC, except for rulers and leaders in general? That way those who don't want it can easily turn it off without affecting the game.

 

[Woifee]

But from day one history vhanges.

For example: How should Napoleon become Emperor of France if Corsica is part of Ireland?

 

[Grand Historian]

But from day one history vhanges.

For example: How should Napoleon become Emperor of France if Corsica is part of Ireland?

That doesn't mean someone named Napoleon wouldn't be born and travel to France.

Besides, with a game like EU4, you're going to have to have a healthy level of abstraction for anything to make sense.

 

[Woifee]

That's one of the reasons I don't like events to late in the game.

I don't know if the french people starting to realize themselves as a nation with citizenship and stuff would accept an foreigner as their consul or emperor.

 

[Grand Historian]

That's one of the reasons I don't like events to late in the game.

I don't know if the french people starting to realize themselves as a nation with citizenship and stuff would accept an foreigner as their consul or emperor.

But they did. Napoleon himself wanted to be French.

 

[Woifee]

But Corsica was part of France, corsians were french citizens.

The early french republic was not about race, ethnicity or language, it was about citizenship.

 

[Grand Historian]

But Corsica was part of France, corsians were french citizens.

The early french republic was not about race, ethnicity or language, it was about citizenship.

The Corsicans themselves didn't seem to agree since Napoleon himself was formerly a Corsican nationalist.

And that doesn't mean the French still didn't look down on people.

 

[Ridwan]

I agree with this.
In addition, using historical portrait-like illustration or special face graphic as their face graphic can add "unique character" element to this game,
like HoI, or other games like civ or Nobunaga's Ambition.
It will bring fun of talent discovery and if-personal history on them.