In Historical Mode after defeating France Germany would attempt to invade England (Operation Sea Lion) or just relax and sit on her hands waiting 1941?
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Since germany has no way of acutally executing operation sealion they will mostly fight the british in the air and prepare for operation barbarossa. Historical mode by no means is a scripted gamemode. The AI is just weighted towards their historical decisions.
Germany has no way of getting naval supremacy in the channel or north sea in order to start a naval invasion against the UK in 1940.
Germany has no way of getting naval supremacy in the channel or north sea in order to start a naval invasion against the UK in 1940.
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But human player can beat Royal Navy and start Sea Lion operation. Its shame that AI cannot do same thing
you have to gain naval supremacy to even be able to do a naval invasion. If you cant manage to somehow gain it you simply cant invade the british isles. I dont see how germany could beat the british navy by 1940.
I was doing it all the time in HoI 2 and 3))))) I was sinking their navy in ports by bombers and with U-boats on sea, then use paratroopers to seize footholds close to shore and beach. My fleet distract rest of enemy fleet so my transports with rest of invasion force can blitz across channel and disembark on captured beachhead.
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When I play as Germany, I plan to invade by sending paratroopers. If sea is out of the question, go by air!
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Get cut of supplies sarounded and defeted, grat plan to lose manpower and equipment.
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the problem with that will be, that you will be completly cut off from supplies and your paratroopers will be overrun by the british homeland garrison. Invasions, no matter if by air or by sea, are the easy part. The hard part is to maintain a intact supply chain to supply the troops. If you land on an island where the enemy has total naval supremacy there wont be any supply comming in of course and the supply secured in the UK wont be enough to supply your troops sufficiently.
You will have to beat the Royal Navy at some point if you want to defeat the UK. You could of course send tons of naval bombers into the english channel and try to damage or sink enough enemy ships so that you can keep up with production, especially after the soviet union falls. You can also trap a big chunk of the RN in the mediteranian if you manage to take the suez and gibraltar straits, which makes it impossible for enemy surface ships to enter or leave.
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As rafan said, this won't work. There is no air supply in game, so your paratroopers will be out of supply and die horribly. And securing ports will give you nothing, because you still don't have naval superiority. Without a navy, it's impossible to invade (and hold) any island.
You don't need naval superiority to send supplies. Also, you could cover supply operations with naval aviation.
The UK could have invested more heavily in the fight on continental europe, leaving less troops to defend.
I think it's very much possible to do a ''Luftlöwe'' with some good luck and player skill.
the problem with that would be of course the british radar and their fighters. Naval bombers wont be enough to protect your supply lines aswell, aside from them being rather expensive. They dont stay in the battle and the convoys are completly defenseless against the enemies man armaments. You have nothing that could soak up damage to protect the convoys on the field. You may damage some enemy ships, but your convoys will be sunk. If the enemy has total naval supremacy there wont be any supply comming through since most if not all convoys are sunk. Even the small amount that may get through wont be able to supply a invasion force.
Ideally, it should be very hard for the player, but the AI should be able to do it as well. That would be unlike HoI3, where it was way too easy for the player and the AI never did it.
I have high hopes in the new paratrooper and naval invasion mechanic, so if we see an AI that attempts Sea Lion every thrid game and succeds every tenth or so, that alone would be amazing.
Escorts don't need naval supremacy to deliver supply. They can be sunk, lowering the overall supply throughput, but at least a little bit will always come through. And don't forget capturing major cities now grant supply as well.
Actually, it comes down to the point how many troops Britain stations on its home islands. In Hoi3 it was a joke and you could overrun whatever they had there with 10 divisions. You should need several hundred thousands paratroopers if you can't do a naval invasion, and if you can, you hopefully need to commit a large chunk of those who did the invasion of France as well.
I have high hopes in the new paratrooper and naval invasion mechanic, so if we see an AI that attempts Sea Lion every thrid game and succeds every tenth or so, that alone would be amazing.
Escorts don't need naval supremacy to deliver supply. They can be sunk, lowering the overall supply throughput, but at least a little bit will always come through. And don't forget capturing major cities now grant supply as well.
Actually, it comes down to the point how many troops Britain stations on its home islands. In Hoi3 it was a joke and you could overrun whatever they had there with 10 divisions. You should need several hundred thousands paratroopers if you can't do a naval invasion, and if you can, you hopefully need to commit a large chunk of those who did the invasion of France as well.
The hypothetical of a Britain who focuses on land at the expense of air and sea to the point that a German air or sea offensive could work is kinda strange to me. When you're Britain, land troops are gravy, now that ships and planes can actually prevent invasions as they should. Being able to hold your colonies is important, and one will hopefully be able to take part in the liberation of Europe directly, but sea power and air power are what you need to not lose - and any nation is going to put not losing first. That air power is also a vital offensive tool is just icing on the cake. Spitfires and Lancasters protect your island, and crush the German factories, not Cromwells and Churchills.