Historical focus invasion of Yugoslavia bugged?

[TheGlop]

I'm not sure if something is wrong with my game or is a currently known bug but it seems the german reich never declares on Yugoslavia with historical focus on. I only played five games thus far with different countries reaching way past the invasion of the soviet union and the german AI never decides to open a new front and prefers to sail to Albania.

The buildup of the german troops on the bulgarian borders of greece does happen, which is pretty cool since it simulates historical happenings quite well (Quite miffed that bulgaria needs to enter the war for them to spill into greece tho but thats how military access works atm, they can't invade only move through allied land). The coup against prince regent Paul happens as well since the child king Peter II becomes the leader of Yugoslavia at some point, but it seems the historical german AI never responds to the yugoslavian coup after the signature of the tripartite pact. It kind of messes up a passive playthrough of Bulgaria like advertised on one of the dev diaries since germany won't be able to give macedonia and southern serbia to bulgaria to garrison.

I understand a lot of people prefer not to play on historical focus on, but I do enjoy playing in the confines of history and trying to go against it with the different options provided by the game after every dlc and update, and seeing how far I can go. It's my main way to play the game and I hope to get clarifications about this issue.

 

[PanzerMan7]

Mine neither. I was disappointed on my latest yugo run. I thought I could stop the panzers but they never came

 

[Sublime Sultan]

It seems like the current AI is having even more difficulties with handling new Yugoslav mechanics with the anti-Axis coup. I also hope Croatia will rise up more frequently in the event of an Axis invasion.

 

[kettyo]

They will not come on their own.

You have to go Sign The Tripartite Pact without doing Invite German Military Mission first. Then you get a coup event. There you have to let the coup succeed. Then the Germans get an event to intervene, they get a wargoal against you.

 

[Limwris]

By the way, when I go fascist in current patch, will Yugoslavia always go into civil war? Even doing Invite German Military.

 

[Captured Joe]

By the way, when I go fascist in current patch, will Yugoslavia always go into civil war? Even doing Invite German Military.

From the devs:

Hello! This is intended behavior. You have a chance that the British will not support the coup if you improve the relations with them and if the spirit is gone, otherwise they will cause a civil war for sure.

 

[TheGlop]

They will not come on their own.

You have to go Sign The Tripartite Pact without doing Invite German Military Mission first. Then you get a coup event. There you have to let the coup succeed. Then the Germans get an event to intervene, they get a wargoal against you.

That is correct. Or at least something similar was correct since the time DoD came out. My first reaction after seeing this happen five times in a row from different countries' angles (mostly bulgaria, greece and turkey because of the dlc) is to look up the historical strategy plans file for Yugoslavia. It appears the AI on historical focus does invite german military mission first before signing the tripartite pact. Which is kind of weird since I'd assume without anti-german sentiment up, a coup would be avoidable?

I promptly cooked up a small mod to remove YUG_invite_german_military_mission entirely from their focus queue list. Surprisingly, the german reich still does not declare on yugoslavia after the Tripartite pact focus and Peter II taking up the helm. Also I haven't seen civil wars or anything happening there in my playthroughs. Historical AI Yugoslavia is a neutral safe zone. I feel that maybe an event choice priority somewhere is causing this but I didn't investigate further than that.

 

[TheGlop]

Taking a peek at what the AI was conjuring in my games, I guess something is going very wrong indeed. This is an unmodded game I played as bulgaria with historical focus on, just a couple focus shy from germany declaring on the USSR.

 

[kettyo]

Taking a peek at what the AI was conjuring in my games, I guess something is going very wrong indeed. This is an unmodded game I played as bulgaria with historical focus on, just a couple focus shy from germany declaring on the USSR.View attachment 644864

This looks like what the strategy plan tells the AI to do.

 

[kettyo]

Okay so problem is that the new event for British instigated coup DOD_yugoslavia.701 is incomplete. It doesn't fire the German intervention events.

Option DOD_yugoslavia.701.a should fire event DOD_yugoslavia.2 for Germany while option DOD_yugoslavia.701.b should fire event DOD_yugoslavia.3.

Bug report written.

 

[kettyo]

I promptly cooked up a small mod to remove YUG_invite_german_military_mission entirely from their focus queue list. Surprisingly, the german reich still does not declare on yugoslavia after the Tripartite pact focus and Peter II taking up the helm. Also I haven't seen civil wars or anything happening there in my playthroughs. Historical AI Yugoslavia is a neutral safe zone. I feel that maybe an event choice priority somewhere is causing this but I didn't investigate further than that.

They gave a new coup event which is instigated by the British, not the Yugo military so not dependent on the anti-German military idea.

The problem is that the new event is incomplete as i write one post before.

 

[TheGlop]

They gave a new coup event which is instigated by the British, not the Yugo military so not dependent on the anti-German military idea.

The problem is that the new event is incomplete as i write one post before.

Thanks a lot for the help, kettyo. That clears up a lot of confusion I had. I guess having the End of Regency focus even if its mutually exclusive to Tripartite pact is also part of the event chain. I've seen that done before in Kaiserreich a handful of times if memory serves me.

Great catch with the incomplete event. I'll cook up a small fix later.

 

[kettyo]

Thanks a lot for the help, kettyo. That clears up a lot of confusion I had. I guess having the End of Regency focus even if its mutually exclusive to Tripartite pact is also part of the event chain. I've seen that done before in Kaiserreich a handful of times if memory serves me.

Great catch with the incomplete event. I'll cook up a small fix later.

Maybe no need for your effort as i have pinned the fixing suggestion in the beta thread. I hope it will be included in some of the next beta versions

Yes the British coup event makes End Of Regency insta-completed right from the event script but it doesn't invalidate the other exlusive focus. Funny thing is i think theoretically you could advance upon both branches as technically both are completed regardless of them being mutually exclusive

 

[Dalnar]

Doesn't Italy justify on Yug and drag Germany in war? Usually before attack on Greece?

 

[TheGlop]

Doesn't Italy justify on Yug and drag Germany in war? Usually before attack on Greece?

I vaguely remember that was how it was done before DoD. After that expac, an event chain was created called "Pressure Yugoslavia" or something of the sort which germany initiates and britain can partake in too, culminating with the german reich gaining a wargoal against yugoslavia. In historical focus mode, I believe this event chain initiated the war before this patch. Since after DoD, I think historical AI Italy doesn't justify on yugoslavia or has abysmally low desire to.

Currently what happens in my games is: Italy declares on greece as they were. Germany joins that war. Bulgaria is dragged to the war so the germans have a front against the historical metaxas line and are usually bogged down there. Then nothing...

The german troops do try to outflank the line by throwing troops in Albania but nobody in the axis declares war on Yugoslavia. The situation in greece usually stays at a stalemate in my games now even as the germans invade the soviet union (they capitulated greece before operation barbarossa once during my 5 playthroughs).

Maybe no need for your effort as i have pinned the fixing suggestion in the beta thread. I hope it will be included in some of the next beta versions

Yes the British coup event makes End Of Regency insta-completed right from the event script but it doesn't invalidate the other exlusive focus. Funny thing is i think theoretically you could advance upon both branches as technically both are completed regardless of them being mutually exclusive

Thanks again. I hope they tidy up a lot of bugs for next patch. I've met some weird stuff like with bulgaria's communist path (The focus Fatherland Front mentions integrating the Zveno and Agrarians would add communist party popularity, but they don't. They still add non-aligned). I read a bit on the forums to see if anyone was talking about the AI behavior on historical focus before posting my thread. I wanted to at least get it out there and maybe find a quick fix so I can deal with it.

I also feel like japan declares war on the philippines earlier than usual and only declares war on the dutch east indies quite a decent while later to officially merge the wars and formally introduce the USA to the allies faction. Pretty weird since it shouldn't take that long to merge the wars, probably something wrong with japan's AI desire to declare war since I remember them holding off on jumping the gun with the philippines until they time it with the global war previously.
The United kingdom also consistently declares war on Iceland which I find quite funny since they historically violated their neutrality and invaded them iirc, maybe an attempt to simulate that. Here's hoping they do something similar if they ever decide to touch up norway and its situation in the future.

 

[Hungrydingo]

This really messes with the invasion of Greece when Italy finally goes to war with them (which seems to happen much alter than it should with the latest patch). You have almost no chance because Bulgaria won't join the Axis in the games I've played and the entire invasion has to be waged from Albania with it's limited supply capacity.