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arcorelli said:
Well, it is a very commong disease in late games known as Nappy hysteria :rofl:

I know, and I hate it. That's one of the reasons behind my new 1419 scenario... to make a less terrifying France.
 

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Hive said:
What I don't get is why everyone is talking about smashing France and taking all her colonies... I mean, France is not the nation who took Venice and surrounding area from Austria. France is not the nation who attacked and totally smashed Prussia. France is not the nation who blackmailed Sweden into ceding Finland. And so on...

All in all, France have been a very good boy.
hehe of course, but you are not in bad shape, though OE can kick anyone around, you guys just don't dare fight him...
 

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Hive said:
What I don't get is why everyone is talking about smashing France and taking all her colonies... I mean, France is not the nation who took Venice and surrounding area from Austria. France is not the nation who attacked and totally smashed Prussia. France is not the nation who blackmailed Sweden into ceding Finland.

... France is nation with Napoleon :rofl:
 

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Now Portugals court would like to know has Spain accepted England&Portugal&France demands for peace?

For Portugals part as it has not heard nothing after giving its offer to England for free south/central american states to be made and so has decided to make it more accurate Spain will free Mexico and Columbia or Portugal will start immediatly use its alone 99 war score to stab hit Spain.
 

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Rezag said:
Now Portugals court would like to know has Spain accepted England&Portugal&France demands for peace?

For Portugals part as it has not heard nothing after giving its offer to England for free south/central american states to be made and so has decided to make it more accurate Spain will free Mexico and Columbia or Portugal will start immediatly use its alone 99 war score to stab hit Spain.

Since the deadline for negotiations has not been arrived yet, maybe it is a little premature making even more harsh demands? The King of Spain has the right to answer until tomorrow after all.
 

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devil said:
lol why is England&Portugal&France allied against spain, geez lets rape the guy lying down :D

A War of Indignation (at least for England) after poor Prussia was, well, attacked for Spain and Russia. So, a decision to punish evildoers (you know, we english are very righteous :D ) was taken.

But the alliance is actually for the war, so once the war is ended England will go back to their previous alliance with Portugal. We will decide who to strike and who to defend when we see events to develop.

BTW, we should not forget that the Defend Europe Act was enacted, so Prussia and Austria are under the protection of the english crown.
 

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devil said:
lol why is England&Portugal&France allied against spain, geez lets rape the guy lying down :D

Against Spain and Russia, mind you. Why? Because Spain and Russia attacked Prussia totally unprovoked, with Spain taking Münster and Russia vassalizing Prussia. Such aggression can not and will not be tolerated by peace loving nations like ours.
 

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Hive,

Given that one of your allies is now demanding the release of Mexico and Colombia, where Russia took nothing and had little to do with Spain's involvement, I find that analogy...

Lacking severely.
 

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Rezag said:
Now Portugals court would like to know has Spain accepted England&Portugal&France demands for peace?

For Portugals part as it has not heard nothing after giving its offer to England for free south/central american states to be made and so has decided to make it more accurate Spain will free Mexico and Columbia or Portugal will start immediatly use its alone 99 war score to stab hit Spain.
With those demand's i can surrender to France even before Nappy arraives! :(
if i'll give up those land's i will loose way to much, and i thought the reason why Portugal entered the war was becuase of Prussia? i'll accept the English demand to give back Münster to BB, and you'r reason for you'r war will be achived. If you still demand that i will give up my most importent provinces it's not more then an offensive gang bang, and i can't really se why Portugal want's those as indenpendent? You'r loyalty and friendship towards France is now even more exposed!
If you guys started the war cause of Prussia, you shouldn't make it to an offensive gang bang, though England+Portugal witch is super rich + France with it's MP and leaders, that war is only ridicules and 100% gang bang if you demand such a peace!

Edit, i would accept some kind of war indemnity to France and BB, though i don't think Port and England want money?
 

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Fredrik_SWE said:
With those demand's i can surrender to France even before Nappy arraives! :(
if i'll give up those land's i will loose way to much, and i thought the reason why Portugal entered the war was becuase of Prussia? i'll accept the English demand to give back Münster to BB, and you'r reason for you'r war will be achived. If you still demand that i will give up my most importent provinces it's not more then an offensive gang bang, and i can't really se why Portugal want's those as indenpendent? You'r loyalty and friendship towards France is now even more exposed!
If you guys started the war cause of Prussia, you shouldn't make it to an offensive gang bang, though England+Portugal witch is super rich + France with it's MP and leaders, that war is only ridicules and 100% gang bang if you demand such a peace!

Edit, i would accept some kind of war indemnity to France and BB, though i don't think Port and England want money?

France wants Bearn. It is a core of ours (not of yours), and it was unrightfully taken from us a while back. We want it back now. Refuse, and you shall face our wrath unleashed.
 

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Hive said:
France wants Bearn. It is a core of ours (not of yours), and it was unrightfully taken from us a while back. We want it back now. Refuse, and you shall face our wrath unleashed.
It's just kind of funny, France used BB as an excuse to make an offensive war, in return he got England and Portugal on his side, and by this England participate in an offensive war with France. Jeez, is this game balance dead or what? Anyway, just say that it is an offensive gang bang war and i will accept peace, but don't use BB for the reason because it's only silly.

Is Spain totally alone as enemie towards France in the west??
All credits for Russia, but i'm still kind of fucked here because it's a looong way to moscow! Still, Austria won't be able to participate with any great numbers against Nappy, and with a uber OE on there side i don't blame them if they stay neutral! I'll wouldn't myself make such a stupid move against Prussia, it's just stupid, by taking Munster that will cause those reactions is what we all can se the death of Spain. Damn sub :mad:
 

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Quit the game then, you know people don't give a fuck about bop these days. Everyone wants others to ensure the bop is maintained, they talk a lot but when it comes down to business they are only driven by personal gain, its definatly not the BoP.... no point in continuing to play if people are so blind/don't care, that they ruin it.

An example is: In games with damo/HG/slargos and so on, people don't dare dow'ing him, no they rather ally them and hope they doesn't screw them over.
 

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devil said:
Quit the game then, you know people don't give a fuck about bop these days. Everyone wants others to ensure the bop is maintained, they talk a lot but when it comes down to business they are only driven by personal gain, its definatly not the BoP.... no point in continuing to play if people are so blind/don't care, that they ruin it.

That was always the reason behind BoP in real life. Countries driven by their own interests, trying to look nice and making their enemies dangerous.

The real danger for BoP it is not Spain (they are large enough to recover from this war) but the situation of Austria and Prussia. But those are the countries that England, precisely, has decided to defend next session.
 

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arcorelli said:
The real danger for BoP it is not Spain (they are large enough to recover from this war) but the situation of Austria and Prussia. But those are the countries that England, precisely, has decided to defend next session.
The Spanish king share the English of there protection of Austria-Prussia, just a shame that my sub didn't do the same! :rolleyes:
 

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Fredrik_SWE said:
With those demand's i can surrender to France even before Nappy arraives! :(
if i'll give up those land's i will loose way to much, and i thought the reason why Portugal entered the war was becuase of Prussia? i'll accept the English demand to give back Münster to BB, and you'r reason for you'r war will be achived. If you still demand that i will give up my most importent provinces it's not more then an offensive gang bang, and i can't really se why Portugal want's those as indenpendent? You'r loyalty and friendship towards France is now even more exposed!
If you guys started the war cause of Prussia, you shouldn't make it to an offensive gang bang, though England+Portugal witch is super rich + France with it's MP and leaders, that war is only ridicules and 100% gang bang if you demand such a peace!

Edit, i would accept some kind of war indemnity to France and BB, though i don't think Port and England want money?

Now if Spain thinks everyhting will be just forgiven return one province Munster to Prussia like Prussia didnt suffer anything else by Spain and Portugal was before accepting that Spain could decide what south/central american states it releases well nothing was answer for that so Portugal had to make it clear there will be free states in america after this as Spain went against freedom so freedom is what it will pay to remember its wrong doing against Prussia.

So make spanish offer for free south/central american states then or Portugal will decide it itself.

Edit: I allso dont play this game for Napoleon people didnt know hey there will be in hunred or two hunred year this great general in France so we do all our actions for that like hes the only great general in history.
 
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HolisticGod said:
Hive,

Given that one of your allies is now demanding the release of Mexico and Colombia, where Russia took nothing and had little to do with Spain's involvement, I find that analogy...

Lacking severely.

Now I dont know how many times I have to say it or to point for you people Spain went against freedom so freedom shall be its punishments. Like Russia vasallized Prussia didnt conquer so Portugal wants free new states out from Spanish rule instead taking something for Portugal.