HJ Tulp said:
A question that arose from the Townhall. Is there EUtopian Military Personell detained in the secession states?
A related question/supposition is what we lost in the secession. I've got a hypothesis, based on our now-ancient military rolls:
Military Organization Documents said:
Army HQ is in Eutopia city.
1st armoured corps
2 armoured divisions (1 in Eutopia city, 1 in Hafnia)
1 mechanized infantery division (in Neuwestbaden)
1 Attack helicopter battalion (in Eutopia city)
1 Command battalion (in Eutopia city)
1 Intellegence battalion (in Eutopia city)
1 Support regiment (in Eutopia city)
2nd Infantery corps (motorized, 6x6 trucks)
3 Infantery divisions (1 in New Lancaster city, 1 in Chateauvallon, 1 in St Brendanstown
1 Command battalion (based in New Lancaster city)
1 Intellegence battalion (based in New Lancaster city)
1 Supply regiment (based in New Lancaster city)
3rd Infantery corps (motorized, 6x6 trucks)
3 Infantery divisions (1 in St Martin de porres, 1 in Buen Puerto, 1 in Fort-aux-Francais)
1 Command battalion (based in St Martin de porres)
1 Intellegence battalion (based in St Martin de porres)
1 Supply regiment (based in St Martin de porres)
2 Mountain ranger brigades (1 in Farpoint, 1 in a small city in WET)
1 Airborne regiment (in Eutopia city)
2 Transport helicopter battalion (in Eutopia city)
So here, it looks like we lost the third infantry corps to Tilapia and St. Esprit, but none of our advanced equipment (helicopters, tanks, and APCs) went with them.
Military Organization Documents said:
The Airforce HQ is in Eutopia city.
10 airbases (1 in Eutopia city, 1 in Harton, 1 in Nueva Córdoba , 1 in Spalding, 1 in Villefranche, 1 in Montaigu, 1 on Isla Real, 1 in the northwest part of WET, 1 in New Lancaster city, 1 in Neuwestbaden)
5 AD battalions (1 in Eutopia city, 1 in Buen Puerto, 1 in Hurteau, 1 in New Lancaster city, 1 in Nueva Córdoba)
Since the only airbase we lost was the one on Isla Real, which is one of the most isolated, and since we know for a fact that our air force is basically immobile, I figure we lost a minimal amount of equipment here -- maybe a couple squadrons of F-5A Freedom Fighters (12 aircraft), and given its remote location possible some recon, rescue and cargo craft -- say two each of C-130, RF-8, and CH-3. (These are probably centralized in squadrons, but it makes sense that some of them would be down there regularly.)
We also lost the Buen Puerto AD battalion -- assuming they're equally divided, with that would go a Hawk battery, 18 Bofors AAA, and 12 81mm mortars. Our training aircraft are all in friendly hands, though (presumably sitting on the tarmac at Eutopia City.)
Military Organization Documents said:
The Navy HQ is in Buen Puerto.
3 naval bases (1 in Buen Puerto , 1 in New Lancaster city, 1 in Hurteu)
2 Carrier groups (in Buen Puerto)
3 ASW groups (1 in Buen Puerto, 1 in New Lancaster city, 1 in Hurteu)
2 Minewarfare groups(1 in New Lancaster city, 1 in Buen Puerto)
2 Submarine groups (1 based in New Lancaster city, 1 in Buen Puerto)
1 Supply group (split between New lancaster city and Buen Puerto)
1 Amphibius group (based in Hurteu)
1 Marine infantery regiment (based in Hurteu)
Here we lost a great deal more. The Buen Puerto naval base is in Tilapian hands, along with most of our capital ships. Tulp's documents may have more specifics; I'm just guessing here, but I figure:
Each carrier group: 1x Essex, 2x Farragut DDG, 3x Knox FF, 1x Perry FF, 1x Upholder, 2x Oberon, entire naval aviation arm (between the two) -- both lost to Tilapia
Each ASW group: 1x Perry, 2x Knox -- one lost to Tilapia (of three)
Each minesweeper group: 5x minesweepers -- one lost to Tilapia (of two)
Each sub group: 1x Upholder, 3x Oberon -- one lost to Tilapia (of two)
One of our supply ships was probably in NLC, the other in Buen Puerto, and the fleet oiler would probably be with the carriers, so also in BP. The Marines and their transports remain in UPE hands in Hurteau. Oh, and the Bismarck was probably at Naval HQ in Buen Puerto, for all the value that has.
So here's how I'm envisioning the current military situation:
St. Esprit: 1 motorized divison (Fort-aux-Francais)
Tilapia: 2 motorized infantry divisions, a supply regiment, command battalion, and intel battalion; a small (grounded) airforce, as above; 2x Essex, 4x Farragut, 3x Perry, 8x Knox, 3x Upholder, 7x Oberon, 5x minesweepers, 1 supply ship, 1 fleet oiler, and the naval air arm (possibly also grounded.)
UPE: Everything else.
... which leaves the UPE in (relatively) good shape in every quarter except for the navy. Again, all supposition, but I think I can make a good case for any of my assumptions.
Now, whether any of the crews or troops are being held against their will is up to the GMs. I tend to doubt it; the military did, after all, refuse to attack the secessionists, and presumably those troops stationed in what are now foreign lands had their families there (though that wouldn't apply to conscripts, I suppose.) In any case, I would imagine a lot of people 'defected' to the new nations on their formation.
ADDENDUM: Also note that one of the Tilapia OH Perries is presumably sitting disabled in Buen Puerto harbor after a catastrophic explosion that no one ever got around to fixing.