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rman114 said:
rman114 - Sounds like that invasion stuff is pretty rough... Have you started a new game? Still playing France? What is your next strategy?
Played for about a half hour yesterday and here is where I'm at:
I don't think I actually destroyed any retreating armor with my air units, from the last battle in Luxemburg.
My Reims trap seems to be going as planned. I have a good pocket formed with Reims surrounded by troops in every direction except across the border to the North where they are coming from. My weak Reims defense - my 2 divisions (1 CAV and 1 INF) and the 1 Belgian MNT division that were there were attacked and defeated as planned and now in retreat. By the way, I'm not in control of the Belgian troops. We were attacked by about 8 or 9 divisions of which none were armor. I'm assuming they will come on in to the Reims province - that's the plan anyway. Currently hitting them with Interdiction missions from the air. When they come in, I'll hit them with everything I have in land troops. I haven't counted the numbers yet; however, I think I have him outnumbered two to one at least, maybe a little more than that by a few divisions. I'll be attacking from about 5 or 6 different directions. Got HQ support on two sides. I've got 1 Light Armored division. Lots of pre-planning and setup here. I'm serious about this one.
Commiting everything I have now. Haven't used Huntziger's 2nd Armee yet - been holding held him in reserve. Moved him to Troyes to seal the Reims pocket, to attack Northwards into Reims, and to hold the Southern part of the pocket. My armor and an HQ comes from Compiegne where I positioned it earlier. Everything else was like already in place. My other HQ is in Chaumont.
If this works, this is the big one, I'm bringing the kitchen sink. I expect to win and for them to retreat. Then I'll hit them with Ground Attack missions from the air. I've made it to May 23, 1940 so far.
Whuhahahahah! No matter what, at least I'm getting some practice in setting up the opponent
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Hi Commander,
I haven't been able to play in a few days =/. I might be able to play tonight at some point. I'll let you know what happens.
I think i will try a new war. I want to focus on a more offensive strat and put more IC into troops rather than installations. I'll keep you posted.
It seems like your doing well. Keep it up! Can you take control of Belgium or Netherlands?
I haven't been able to play in a few days =/. I might be able to play tonight at some point. I'll let you know what happens.
I think i will try a new war. I want to focus on a more offensive strat and put more IC into troops rather than installations. I'll keep you posted.
It seems like your doing well. Keep it up! Can you take control of Belgium or Netherlands?
rman114 said:
rman114 - Well, in a way this is all about my other setup along the coast....
I've been playing solo as France so far. The "friendly AI" is playing Belgium and Netherlands. I think I'll keep it that way. The Netherlands are about done for. There are lots of German units up there....Yikes! If I wasn't in Belgium, there would be no Belgium. The bad news - Giraud's 7th is in retreat, kicked out of Rotterdam and headed back to Ghent. Blanchard's 1st is hanging in there in Brussels. Those are my two most Northern groups of units. The coastal plan is to continue heading South along the coast with Giraud and abandon Ghent. I'll have Giraud pass through Dunkerque and leave it open. If the AI's Axis units pursue through the Ghent/Dunkerque opening along the coast, I'll try to mash them between units from Calais, Blanchard from out of Brussels, and Giraud wherever I pause him to regroup - maybe Lille. And I have a division in Mons to add the multidirectional attacks - trying to get at least another there as I don't want single divisions anywhere. I'll have the English Channel as a barrier that the Axis cannot retreat to. If Blanchard can move into Ghent I'll actually have them surrounded. I plan to use Shore Bombardment mission from several sea task forces to open a different front that I sorely need. I figure the only way I'm going to win this game is to bring everything I have. I've even brought the Richelieu BB up from the Med to the English channel; if I get to use her for shore bombardment, it will be sweet redemption... I spent a bunch of "IC Days" floating her that I could have spent on land units that I need now
Isn't this ironic... My plan is to surround German divisions in Dunkerque, only if I pull this one off, there will be no place to retreat to. The mighty Richelieu will pound the beaches. "Spotter to Richelieu... Your targets. Soft, infantry. Bearing 170 true, range 12 Kilometers from your position. Rounds 8. Mix of HE and Frag. Intermittent fire at 15 second intervals. Terrain, beach." Sounds good doesn't it? Even if this doesn't work as planned, I'm sure to have some shore bombardment situations arise along the Channel.
So the big picture looks like this.... Hold the middle with Corap's 9'th and other corps size units in a defensive posture in Namur. Have the enemy advance into two different traps down either side of Corap's 9th. One is a land pocket in Reims, the other pins the enemy against the sea in Dunkerque/Ghent. Interesting thing is this is happening simultaneously. Wish me luck!
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CommanderC said:rman114 - Well, in a way this is all about my other setup along the coast....
I've been playing solo as France so far. The "friendly AI" is playing Belgium and Netherlands. I think I'll keep it that way. The Netherlands are about done for. There are lots of German units up there....Yikes! If I wasn't in Belgium, there would be no Belgium. The bad news - Giraud's 7th is in retreat, kicked out of Rotterdam and headed back to Ghent. Blanchard's 1st is hanging in there in Brussels. Those are my two most Northern groups of units. The coastal plan is to continue heading South along the coast with Giraud and abandon Ghent. I'll have Giraud pass through Dunkerque and leave it open. If the AI's Axis units pursue through the Ghent/Dunkerque opening along the coast, I'll try to mash them between units from Calais, Blanchard from out of Brussels, and Giraud wherever I pause him to regroup - maybe Lille. And I have a division in Mons to add the multidirectional attacks - trying to get at least another there as I don't want single divisions anywhere. I'll have the English Channel as a barrier that the Axis cannot retreat to. If Blanchard can move into Ghent I'll actually have them surrounded. I plan to use Shore Bombardment mission from several sea task forces to open a different front that I sorely need. I figure the only way I'm going to win this game is to bring everything I have. I've even brought the Richelieu BB up from the Med to the English channel; if I get to use her for shore bombardment, it will be sweet redemption... I spent a bunch of "IC Days" floating her that I could have spent on land units that I need now
Isn't this ironic... My plan is to surround German divisions in Dunkerque, only if I pull this one off, there will be no place to retreat to. The mighty Richelieu will pound the beaches. "Spotter to Richelieu... Your targets. Soft, infantry. Bearing 170 true, range 12 Kilometers from your position. Rounds 8. Mix of HE and Frag. Intermittent fire at 15 second intervals. Terrain, beach." Sounds good doesn't it? Even if this doesn't work as planned, I'm sure to have some shore bombardment situations arise along the Channel.
So the big picture looks like this.... Hold the middle with Corap's 9'th and other corps size units in a defensive posture in Namur. Have the enemy advance into two different traps down either side of Corap's 9th. One is a land pocket in Reims, the other pins the enemy against the sea in Dunkerque/Ghent. Interesting thing is this is happening simultaneously. Wish me luck!
Hi Commander, how did your plan work out?
I restarted my game, and in the time since we last posted i brought France up to when war begins.
When the germans invaded Poland i made attempts against Suttgart however holding it prooved too difficult. I adjusted my sliders so that i got my units as close to full standing as possible before war began. Their Org is still low though due to low doctrin. I'm doing my best to advance that. 10 German TAC's and CAS are pounding units in Marseille and even with them dug in they were causing lots of destruction. In over-running Stuggart the German's lost 2 or 3 airflotts.
I concentrated production completely on infantry and the maginot wal exists as it did historically.
I'm hoping Italy declares because i should be able to overrun then at the land connection with Italy.
The attacks against Stuggart were large and diverted German units from Poland but i tend to think Poland will still fall. the German response to the attacks against Stuggart left the German Province below that lightly defended and my forces moved right on in. i should now be able to move against Stuggart mor effectively since there are no rivers to ford.
If Stuggart falls i'm not quite sure what to do after. I suppose i'll try moving North attempting to pin German units against Belgium and Netherlands, but also, if Poland falls life could get difficult!
I need to get max Org up, my guess is it takes 2 french '39 to effectively take out one german '39.
I have those odds, but not for a large front, and not for a lot of river attacks. hmmmmm
rman114 said:
Very good and not so good. It'll take a couple of posts to give synopsis. They will follow. You will see from my previous posts I'm giving it all I got - which really isn't enough units. Looked at the army comparisons and it looks like this as of 16 June, 1940:
Germany 222 divisions
Hungary 12 divisions
Romania 18 divisions
Me France 64 divisions (Of course here is where the problem is, duh!)
rman114 said:
Yes! Those darned river attacks have such a high modifier against you. I've encountered this numerous times in my game. Lots of rivers in Northern France, Belgium, and Luxemburg area. Makes setting things up very difficult on you. It does help in defense though, depending on the situation.
Part I
For my Reims/Namur pocket strategy:
Added a simultaneous attack on Namur which is new info.... Used all three of my armor divisions - I need way more than that!
I got my Reims province pocket trap set and was attacked there as expected. My units retreated out and they moved in as expected. Executed a well supported and all out offensive up through Reims from several directions, including 1 LARM from Compiegne.
Concentrated 2 out of 3 of my Light Armored divisions and used them in a simultaneous attack on the Namur province with other units also.
The attacks both succeeded quickly sending the Axis units sent into retreats. You can see there units in retreat in both provinces.
For the attack on Namur I concentrated two of my LARM divisions into an armor corps. Now there is something the French didn't do IRL.
I eventually took Namur. The Soviets have started to mix it.
Sent my armor corps South from Namur into Reims in a moving attack. The Axis counterattacked and later reoccupied Namur. I reoccupied Reims. All that effort and nothing gained. I had them on the run but lacked the resources to really follow up on the attack and perhaps encircle the enemy. No way I could take Liege or Arlon. Pounded the heck out the retreating units with air the whole time, a mix of Interdiction 24 hrs. and Ground Attack only in daylight.
So this part of my plan worked; however, I lacked the resources to properly follow up and complete the encirclement by taking Liege and Arlon. I did execute what I planned with the resources I had very well.
For my Reims/Namur pocket strategy:
Added a simultaneous attack on Namur which is new info.... Used all three of my armor divisions - I need way more than that!
I got my Reims province pocket trap set and was attacked there as expected. My units retreated out and they moved in as expected. Executed a well supported and all out offensive up through Reims from several directions, including 1 LARM from Compiegne.
Concentrated 2 out of 3 of my Light Armored divisions and used them in a simultaneous attack on the Namur province with other units also.
The attacks both succeeded quickly sending the Axis units sent into retreats. You can see there units in retreat in both provinces.
For the attack on Namur I concentrated two of my LARM divisions into an armor corps. Now there is something the French didn't do IRL.
I eventually took Namur. The Soviets have started to mix it.
Sent my armor corps South from Namur into Reims in a moving attack. The Axis counterattacked and later reoccupied Namur. I reoccupied Reims. All that effort and nothing gained. I had them on the run but lacked the resources to really follow up on the attack and perhaps encircle the enemy. No way I could take Liege or Arlon. Pounded the heck out the retreating units with air the whole time, a mix of Interdiction 24 hrs. and Ground Attack only in daylight.
So this part of my plan worked; however, I lacked the resources to properly follow up and complete the encirclement by taking Liege and Arlon. I did execute what I planned with the resources I had very well.
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Part II
Ghent/Dunkirk Coastal Strategy:
Along the coast, I did get the Richelieu BB and two other BB task groups into positions for Shore Bombardment missions. Moved Giraud back from Rotterdam through Ghent and Dunkerque to Lille as planned. What went wrong here was this; I got hammered in Brussels and was forced to retreat Blanchard's 1st Armee to Mons. I was planning to attack out of Brussels to try an encirclement. Had to modify plans slightly. Eventually, the Axis did come through Ghent and into Dunkerque. I did attack into both Ghent and Dunkerque as he advanced and I did get the shore bombardment missions working for me; however, the best modifier to the land battle was something like – 9.20 to the enemy from it.
I expected more from the NGFS, oh well. I was also attacking across a river from Mons which didn’t help. The negative river crossing modifier took away from the positive flanking modifier I had obtained.
Eventually the Axis attacked into Lille - I had to gather and attack with all my ragtag reinforcements in the Paris area just to contain (new group under Gamelin). Even this group lost the battle but they weren't forced to retreat. Gamelin contains - a good thing because there is not much left behind him in Paris.
A good try. I executed what I wanted to do; however, I was left with Calais, Dunkerque, and Lille in enemy hands.
Ghent/Dunkirk Coastal Strategy:
Along the coast, I did get the Richelieu BB and two other BB task groups into positions for Shore Bombardment missions. Moved Giraud back from Rotterdam through Ghent and Dunkerque to Lille as planned. What went wrong here was this; I got hammered in Brussels and was forced to retreat Blanchard's 1st Armee to Mons. I was planning to attack out of Brussels to try an encirclement. Had to modify plans slightly. Eventually, the Axis did come through Ghent and into Dunkerque. I did attack into both Ghent and Dunkerque as he advanced and I did get the shore bombardment missions working for me; however, the best modifier to the land battle was something like – 9.20 to the enemy from it.
I expected more from the NGFS, oh well. I was also attacking across a river from Mons which didn’t help. The negative river crossing modifier took away from the positive flanking modifier I had obtained.
Eventually the Axis attacked into Lille - I had to gather and attack with all my ragtag reinforcements in the Paris area just to contain (new group under Gamelin). Even this group lost the battle but they weren't forced to retreat. Gamelin contains - a good thing because there is not much left behind him in Paris.
A good try. I executed what I wanted to do; however, I was left with Calais, Dunkerque, and Lille in enemy hands.
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rman114 - Conclusion: I think my long term strategy is sending me towards the losing end. It all seems to point to my obsession with the IRL OOB as I built up before conflict.
I didn’t build me enough land units to get closer to the IRL French land units OOB. I did float the BB Richelieu (came close to floating the Jean Bart BB, and BCs Dunkurque and Strasbourg too). There are lots of air units I also produced, about half sit idle because I don't need them, or I don't have them on the priority status. I could get by quite well with half of the air I currently have. Although, I would like to have more and better CAS. As of June 16 he has 222 land divisions and I have 64… This is obviously the issue. I do think I have done rather well for this size of force. Since the start of the 1936 Campaign Game I have only built these Land Divisions:
1 Light Armored
1 HQ
9 Infantry
4 Garrison
This isn't enough as I see now. Aside from the the HQ, I really need double or triple this amount. And Improved Light Armor or Medium Armor would have been really nice.
I can see where in several situations a force of about 6 divisions (1 ARM, 5 INF) could have penetrated and allowed a full encirclement of the enemy. Perhaps the sorely missed BEF I should have given myself. As it is, I checked the Army Comparisons and I never eliminated a single Axis unit with my Reims/Namur pocket or my Ghent/Dunkerque plans (All that for nothing?). It seems it is extremely hard to eliminate enemy units without that full encirclement. I couldn’t kill them with air Ground Attack missions when they were retreating either, and I bombed the heck out of them. All I did was push them back. Now I’ve lost any momentum I had and I lost some provinces too. He has concentrated his units 2 to 1 across from me and sometimes 3 to 1. I have made it to 16 June – not bad I think for what my setup was. Here is my current situation map…
I think this is the start of the eventual collapse I think I'll continue for awhile to see what happens.
I do really want to start a new game with this in mind (keep everything the same with the following adjustments - disregard the Navy, fewer air FTR ESC and INT, more Infantry, more ARM, and enter the BEF). I think with these changes, I could perform large full encirclements and do some serious damage
I didn’t build me enough land units to get closer to the IRL French land units OOB. I did float the BB Richelieu (came close to floating the Jean Bart BB, and BCs Dunkurque and Strasbourg too). There are lots of air units I also produced, about half sit idle because I don't need them, or I don't have them on the priority status. I could get by quite well with half of the air I currently have. Although, I would like to have more and better CAS. As of June 16 he has 222 land divisions and I have 64… This is obviously the issue. I do think I have done rather well for this size of force. Since the start of the 1936 Campaign Game I have only built these Land Divisions:
1 Light Armored
1 HQ
9 Infantry
4 Garrison
This isn't enough as I see now. Aside from the the HQ, I really need double or triple this amount. And Improved Light Armor or Medium Armor would have been really nice.
I can see where in several situations a force of about 6 divisions (1 ARM, 5 INF) could have penetrated and allowed a full encirclement of the enemy. Perhaps the sorely missed BEF I should have given myself. As it is, I checked the Army Comparisons and I never eliminated a single Axis unit with my Reims/Namur pocket or my Ghent/Dunkerque plans (All that for nothing?). It seems it is extremely hard to eliminate enemy units without that full encirclement. I couldn’t kill them with air Ground Attack missions when they were retreating either, and I bombed the heck out of them. All I did was push them back. Now I’ve lost any momentum I had and I lost some provinces too. He has concentrated his units 2 to 1 across from me and sometimes 3 to 1. I have made it to 16 June – not bad I think for what my setup was. Here is my current situation map…
I think this is the start of the eventual collapse
I think I'll continue for awhile to see what happens.I do really want to start a new game with this in mind (keep everything the same with the following adjustments - disregard the Navy, fewer air FTR ESC and INT, more Infantry, more ARM, and enter the BEF). I think with these changes, I could perform large full encirclements and do some serious damage
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Hi Commander.
What do you think of this strategy. Since you can't face them head on you have to try and trick them.
Open up Reims and move units to the sides of the front. Put the bulk of the forces on the point at the border but also try and place blocking units at Paris. The primary goal is to prevent the computer from making it to the sea.
Your maginot line in the east and Switzerland will block the Germans from linking there.
The Germans will funnel into the corridor fan out and maybe push toward Paris. Pound them as much as possible with all those air units you produced with TAC Interdiction and CAS ground attack.
Hopefully they will move more forces into their attacks and thus weaken their hold on Reims. At some point you close the door at Reims focusing as much firepower into taking it and holding it as possible.
This should cut off the Germans that pushed into France. The combination of their attackes, bombardment from the air and being out of supply should make you able to squash a fairly significant encirclement.
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rman114 - Yes, I was thinking about that same type of plan when I was about half way into the attack and realized after a couple of attacks I didn't have the muscle to take Arlon and Liege for the coveted full encirclement.
What I was thinking back then was that it would have been nice to draw his forces deeper into Chaumont. Hold the line at Compiegne and Troyes where I already had some units. If he came in, I could seal the bottom part of the pocket by moving troops from Troyes and perhaps up from Grenoble into the previously empty Dijon. Then all I would have to do is hit Reims again from a couple of angles, force a retreat, and Voila! The Chaumont pocket would be sealed. It's very close to what you proposed - we speak the same language here. I didn't go that way though, I went the way I posted.
Anything at this point is worth a try. Perhaps I can muster up a second plan along those lines. He outnumbers me and can outproduce me in new units 2 to 1, so I need the full elimination plan. The big problem is setup time - meaning I need to get the job done before he beats me to death in the Northeast. There he is only a province away from Paris. So I need to be able to hold the line there, and execute the plan. If it works, perhaps the German AI would shift forces towards the Arlon, Luxemburg, Liege area to compensate and relieve the pressure I'm now feeling near Paris.
BTW, nice drawing rman114.
What I was thinking back then was that it would have been nice to draw his forces deeper into Chaumont. Hold the line at Compiegne and Troyes where I already had some units. If he came in, I could seal the bottom part of the pocket by moving troops from Troyes and perhaps up from Grenoble into the previously empty Dijon. Then all I would have to do is hit Reims again from a couple of angles, force a retreat, and Voila! The Chaumont pocket would be sealed. It's very close to what you proposed - we speak the same language here. I didn't go that way though, I went the way I posted.
Anything at this point is worth a try. Perhaps I can muster up a second plan along those lines. He outnumbers me and can outproduce me in new units 2 to 1, so I need the full elimination plan. The big problem is setup time - meaning I need to get the job done before he beats me to death in the Northeast. There he is only a province away from Paris. So I need to be able to hold the line there, and execute the plan. If it works, perhaps the German AI would shift forces towards the Arlon, Luxemburg, Liege area to compensate and relieve the pressure I'm now feeling near Paris.
BTW, nice drawing rman114.
CommanderC said:
haha thanks. For some reason i really enjoy drawing arrows on those maps lol.
Good look with your plan, hopefully i can get to play tonight.
Anyone tried a inf/milita strategy?
Worked for me, but cant remember if i had build forts...
Worked for me, but cant remember if i had build forts...
GAGA Extrem said:
Haven't really given the Militia much consideration. I did build some GAR units and put them in Metz, Strasbourg, and Mulhouse; figured that frees up more regular INF for use elsewhere and they hopefully wouldn't get hurt there because of the Level 10 forts. Cause when a GAR gets hurt - they disappear!
In my next game I plan on building way more INF and a few more ARM.
Well i played a bit yesterday and here's the deal.
The German's annexed Poland which i knew was going to prevent me from gaining much ground as the Germans reinforce the border with the units from Poland. I made an attempt on Stutggart since i capture Frieberg but that failed.
I have about 65 divisions in Frieberg and the Maginot line province by Luxemborg. Facing them is about 80 German divisions. They made 2 attempts at knocking me out of Frieberg and came close. I had 4 TACs doing interdiction supporting the defence and my other large force made an all out assault both times to take pressure off Frieberg...it worked, barely. luckily the Germans appeared somewhat focused on hitting Belgium and Netherlands but seem a bit confused because...
By Capturing Frieberg the Germans have about 60 divisions bordering that, which is a significant number taken from their forces to hit Belgium and such.
I took control of Great Britain and have been attempting to open a Northern front by Denmark. I made 3 attempts but all 3 failed but luckily i didn't loose the forces. The first 2 times failed because of attempting to land too many divisions and getting a stacking penalty...duh. One time i never landed and was lucky to escape because a large German surface fleet sortied.
Between naval bombers, strat bombers, and a moderate carrier battleship force(i'm glad i had battleships with carrers) i have eliminated a good portion of the German surface fleet.
The assaults, though they failed did have the added pro of pulling German units from the Border with Belgium and Netherlands. I'm hoping by getting my 12 British divisions on a beachhead i could pull some units North and thus pull pressure from Belgium.
I am also increasing my relations with Italy. I have no idea if that means anything because i can't remember when Italy declares against France and allies with Germany. I figure it must happen when Germany Invades Belgium and such. But hey, it's worth a try nonetheless.
If Italy allies with Germany and declares then North Africa will be rough because there are no French units there and a smattering of British militia.
The German's annexed Poland which i knew was going to prevent me from gaining much ground as the Germans reinforce the border with the units from Poland. I made an attempt on Stutggart since i capture Frieberg but that failed.
I have about 65 divisions in Frieberg and the Maginot line province by Luxemborg. Facing them is about 80 German divisions. They made 2 attempts at knocking me out of Frieberg and came close. I had 4 TACs doing interdiction supporting the defence and my other large force made an all out assault both times to take pressure off Frieberg...it worked, barely. luckily the Germans appeared somewhat focused on hitting Belgium and Netherlands but seem a bit confused because...
By Capturing Frieberg the Germans have about 60 divisions bordering that, which is a significant number taken from their forces to hit Belgium and such.
I took control of Great Britain and have been attempting to open a Northern front by Denmark. I made 3 attempts but all 3 failed but luckily i didn't loose the forces. The first 2 times failed because of attempting to land too many divisions and getting a stacking penalty...duh. One time i never landed and was lucky to escape because a large German surface fleet sortied.
Between naval bombers, strat bombers, and a moderate carrier battleship force(i'm glad i had battleships with carrers) i have eliminated a good portion of the German surface fleet.
The assaults, though they failed did have the added pro of pulling German units from the Border with Belgium and Netherlands. I'm hoping by getting my 12 British divisions on a beachhead i could pull some units North and thus pull pressure from Belgium.
I am also increasing my relations with Italy. I have no idea if that means anything because i can't remember when Italy declares against France and allies with Germany. I figure it must happen when Germany Invades Belgium and such. But hey, it's worth a try nonetheless.
If Italy allies with Germany and declares then North Africa will be rough because there are no French units there and a smattering of British militia.
rman114 – WhoooooHooooo! As I last posted I was thinking about a deeper trap in the province of Chaumont because everything I had done to date was just letting me hang in there. Was also thinking about starting a new game and building more units…Well my fellow tactician… Things are looking up. I started to play my game again and decided to do something the same with a different plan that hopefully gets me the full encirclement.
Here is one part of the solution to my problem:
I had my 3 Light Armored Divisions (only armor I have by the way) close together in the Northeast. I had two already together and one separate. I joined them up in Amiens province. Looked really cool to have all that in one spot you know. So I need to replace the Commander now, and I find a Lt. General Juin who just by chance can command up to 3 divisions. He’s also got Offensive Doctrine and the added bonus – Panzer Leader traits. Turns out he is a skill level 4. That makes him the best skill level Commander in my entire command pool. Makes me feel like saying, “That’s Mr. Juin to you…” He, He! There’s part of it; the right units and the right Commander.
Concentrated Armor, prior commander before I replaced him with Mr. Juin
The other part of the solution is just picking a goal and going for it:
I decide to try and encircle the units he has in Calais. Heck I had all sorts of Armees and assorted units up there. I start with a ton of units supporting the attack. Then I select my smaller attacking force and go for it. I strike Lille and get an almost instantaneous victory. In that attacking force is Mr. Juin and his 3 LArm divisions; and two other Armees – Balanchard’s 1st and Girauds 7th, all rested and refit. Total attackers are 12 divisions.
Well Supported Attack
The Attacking Force, Mr. Juin has been given a command and a mission....
More to follow...
Here is one part of the solution to my problem:
I had my 3 Light Armored Divisions (only armor I have by the way) close together in the Northeast. I had two already together and one separate. I joined them up in Amiens province. Looked really cool to have all that in one spot you know. So I need to replace the Commander now, and I find a Lt. General Juin who just by chance can command up to 3 divisions. He’s also got Offensive Doctrine and the added bonus – Panzer Leader traits. Turns out he is a skill level 4. That makes him the best skill level Commander in my entire command pool. Makes me feel like saying, “That’s Mr. Juin to you…” He, He! There’s part of it; the right units and the right Commander.
Concentrated Armor, prior commander before I replaced him with Mr. Juin
The other part of the solution is just picking a goal and going for it:
I decide to try and encircle the units he has in Calais. Heck I had all sorts of Armees and assorted units up there. I start with a ton of units supporting the attack. Then I select my smaller attacking force and go for it. I strike Lille and get an almost instantaneous victory. In that attacking force is Mr. Juin and his 3 LArm divisions; and two other Armees – Balanchard’s 1st and Girauds 7th, all rested and refit. Total attackers are 12 divisions.
Well Supported Attack
The Attacking Force, Mr. Juin has been given a command and a mission....
More to follow...
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The battle lasts for a long time and I even pull one Armee back and send in another rested one – cycling. At one point the AI has four German Arm divisions in there, Yikes! I was under a Belgian Commander for that one for awhile. I had them though, my air and the British bombers had them under a massive Interdiction campaign so their Org was low. Then there was a massive Counter Attack to withstand. One of my Armees I commit to advancing on Lille gets defeated and retreats from the battle (you can see them in one of my screenies, retreating Southwest out of Amiens). Finally I get Lille. When my armor enters Lille, I launch a supporting attack on Calais from Dieppe with Weygand.
All that German Arm being torn up...
Weygand attacks. So this is what is in Calais, or at least part of it.
Oh my....
All that German Arm being torn up...
Weygand attacks. So this is what is in Calais, or at least part of it.
Oh my....
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With Weygand attacking Calais, I attack straight on into Dunkerque with Mr. Juin’s Light Armor. NGFS from the Navy contributed to both the Calais and Dunkerque efforts. I defeated the troops in Calais and my armor eventually enters Dunkerque. That makes everything enemy in a retreat status and a complete encirclement of the troops in Calais. I had done it. Voila! The troops in Calais vanish, gone. Then Juin gets attacked by Arm in Dunkerque. He survives and maneuvers South through Dieppe and back to Amiens to rest and refit.
Juin's attack on Dunkerque
Supported By Giraud
Shows Calais encircled, pinned against the sea - they are gone! Armor battle in Dunkerque - Mr. Juin has more work to do....
Juin's attack on Dunkerque
Supported By Giraud
Shows Calais encircled, pinned against the sea - they are gone! Armor battle in Dunkerque - Mr. Juin has more work to do....
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Juin survives and maneuvers South through Dieppe and back to Amiens to rest and refit. Look at the Org on the 3 LArm divisions.
Juin's Leadership Stats
Not bad for a land force of only 65 Divisions; including only 3 LArm. All of a sudden, things look a little rosy, He, He! I checked the Army comparison spreadsheet and it says Germany dropped from 222 to 210 divisions.
Whooo Hooo!
Juin's Leadership Stats
Not bad for a land force of only 65 Divisions; including only 3 LArm. All of a sudden, things look a little rosy, He, He! I checked the Army comparison spreadsheet and it says Germany dropped from 222 to 210 divisions.
Whooo Hooo!
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I've beaten Germany twice as France. The key seems to be to do nothing but research infantry and industry. Then build a ton of infantry 10x10 so that you COULD have up to 100 infantry. Then just put them all on the maginot line in the biggest groups possible, and push through the Seigfried line. Once your past that you will still have a hard time, but the Germans wont have enough men and you can push through Austria pretty quickly. If at any point in time Italy joins the war just put enough troops on the boarder to hold them until you are done with Germany. In my games once I took Austria I was essentailly stalemated for a while because at that point Germany is pretty much done with Poland and can send the troops your way, but thats ok Becuase you will have enough men to hold them and you can usually encircle them. You will have a HUGE number supperiority. Also I forgot to mention break towards the Atlantic with a second group at the start. So now you have a front that extends from about Kiel on through Slovakia. Here it gets hard becuase you have Hungary and Slovakia on a border, and a revitalized Germany. What want to do is hold the South while continuing a push from the North, and myabe taking a few provinces in the South. From there just hope for the best. When I played it took me almost 2 years from that point, I think Hungary and Slovakia fell before Germany, and Dresden changed hands about 10 times, but once i got them I killed Italy, and the world was safe for Democracy...or something. Oh and one more thing, all of your diplomacy changes from 36 through the end of Germany should be from drafted army to standing army. It will help a little bit. Hope this helps.