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I have been at war saxony and friends/ bohemia constentally for the last 15 and now that i have finally achieved piece with both of them at the same time a new alliance has Dow on me with a powerful hannover while im stuck with 2 provinces not connected to me with no way of supporting them besides the little army i have there and i can olny support a maximum of 12k to begin with.
 

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You've been force annexing your neighbours? I'm guessing that your Badboy rating is pretty high and you might find it easier to force vassalise those nations and diploannex them later.
 

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i force annexed olny 2 of my neighbors in the beginning but thats all i could do annex those 2 from the start they were already vassels of bohemia so i couldnt make them, my vassels. the two provinces on the left were taken from bohemia in a defensive war
 

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While it definately is WATK, I don't know whats going on with the Minimap. :confused:

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DarkThree said:
i force annexed olny 2 of my neighbors in the beginning but thats all i could do annex those 2 from the start they were already vassels of bohemia so i couldnt make them, my vassels. the two provinces on the left were taken from bohemia in a defensive war

Force annexing two nations early on is too much for a one province nation
 

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Hi there!

I was looking at a similar situation not so long ago, but as an aggressive Teutonic Order looking for a meal. Let me think:

Forceannexing Oels and Oppeln was probably inevitable. Keep in mind that I think Oppeln is a Polish core, as well as Bohemian ... at least every time I fight the Poles they gun for that province. Oels is also a Bohemian core. Lausitz might be a Saxon core. You've just managed to torque everyone off, haven't you?

Your left two provinces are expendable. If you can't defend them...then don't worry about them. I'll be the first to say that sucks, but it sounds like you need to lower your BB anyway.

Where's YOUR alliance? Do you have one? If not, GET one .. even if it means joining someone else. You're not strong enough by yourself to deter your neighbors. Given your list of enemies, I'd suggest Brandenburg or Bavaria, maybe Poland if they don't hate you too much. Poland especially will try to drag you into wars on the other end of the world: Fine, honor the alliance then sit there in Liegnitz with your troops. "Let you and him fight."

By oh....a few months after the end of this war, you want to be at your full support limit for troops. I don't care how you get there: Loans are probably overkill, but War taxes and putting your treasury slider to the right come to mind. Yes, both breed inflation and that is BAD...but you need all the deterrent you can get.

Good luck! Liegnitz is a tough nut to crack.
 

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Dell19 said:
Force annexing two nations early on is too much for a one province nation

Eh: He had little choice. They're RIGHT next to him (the two provinces just to his right), and they all start the game vassalized to Bohemia. If he didn't act quickly, they'd have acted on him. In that TO game I was just mentioning, Oels destroyed Liegnitz fairly early.
 

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CatKnight said:
Eh: He had little choice. They're RIGHT next to him (the two provinces just to his right), and they all start the game vassalized to Bohemia. If he didn't act quickly, they'd have acted on him. In that TO game I was just mentioning, Oels destroyed Liegnitz fairly early.

I was thinking that annexing just one of them would make more sense. The 6BB is unlikely to be worthwhile and like you say someone else will probably annex them instead. Once they have been annexed then you can take those provinces.
 

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im allied with hungry but they dont seem to be too useful so your right i should allie with poland they are friendly to me and they have a large alliance (including brandenburg and sweaden) im already at my maximum supportable amout which is olny 12k :( ... poland doesnt have a core on opplen but in every war i've been in so far everyone always tries to take opplen. i've had it occupied by hesse bohemia austria poland bavaria and others ive forgotten about.
 

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kolmy said:
WATK with a mymap minimap?
Isn't that minimap spanning Korea to Kamchatka, though? Not exactly central Germany...
 

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Culise said:
Isn't that minimap spanning Korea to Kamchatka, though? Not exactly central Germany...
The MyMAP minimap has Eurasia and Africa on the left side, and the Americas on the right side, unlike WATK's map, so it'll look pretty confusing...
 

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kolmy said:
WATK with a mymap minimap?

Culise said:
Isn't that minimap spanning Korea to Kamchatka, though? Not exactly central Germany...

seedcatcher said:
The MyMAP minimap has Eurasia and Africa on the left side, and the Americas on the right side, unlike WATK's map, so it'll look pretty confusing...

that must be it yes. Must be hellish to figure out.

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That's not normal for WATK though, WATK uses the 'basic' minimap. How'd that get there?
 

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That's not normal for WATK though, WATK uses the 'basic' minimap. How'd that get there?

I wanted to play WATK but i couldnt uninstall eu2 [to get mymap off] then reinstall because i lost the cd so i just downloaded WATK and copy and pasted files hoping they would overwrite the Mymap ones but i guess they didnt work for everything.

Does liegnitz start with a couple of leaders [ like Zizka] or is it just my WATK/Mymap game :confused:
 

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I just installed Watk and tried Brieg-Liegnitz. It doesn't start out with any leaders.

It's actually a jolly hard little country to play. It is poor, has low manpower, has a big country to the south that hates it, and other bigger countries around it waiting to gobble it up. I didn't survive during two of my three attempts. In one case the Bohemians destroyed me, in another I ended up without allies and the Poles promptly declared war (I had annexed Oels and had about 5.5 bb). Third attempt I'm in an alliance with Poland and Lithuania. The trouble with this is that if I start a war against Brandenburg (who own Lausitz), then the Poles will come and besiege with 40,000 troops, so decimating my army through attrition and ensuring the province falls to them. Very hard to know how to proceed, since I don't want to acquire provinces with which I have no land border.