Help start the 18thC mod happen!

[Strategist]

We asked it real nice

But well, first youll probably need to have something to show your serious

And well I am working on a downloadable scenario file... Are the maps you painted on for the 1740 borders?

 

[Kaiser Franz]

well its actually for the 1792 scenario...but i have acunning plan..what we do is show case our work using the 1792 map etc (because its a lot easier than a 1740 map) after this we can start to work on the 1740 map.

Do the 1792 map i painted on and the scenario files for download...soon
then if we can get a sub-forum we could start to focus more on the more difficult side of the mod like 1740 borders, events, parties etc

what say you?

 

[unmerged(36950)]

hi to all! I found useful info about savoy army of 1747 if you are interested these are the info:

In 1747, under Carlo Emanuele III, the infantry was made of 32 regiments, for a total of 55 battalions. 18 were piedmontese regiments (8 of national ordinance and 10 provincials), wich include 25 batalions, while 14 were the foreigner regiments, which include 30 battaglions.
1 battaglion was made of 800 men.
Total infantry force of savoy kingdom: 800 * 55 = 44000 men
national infantry:800 * 25 =20000men
foreigner infantry:800 * 30 =24000men
The name of piedmontese regiments: Fanteria Aosta, Fanteria Savoia,Fanteria
svizzero Bernese, Fanteria Torino, Corpo Reale di Artiglieria, Fanteria Saluzzo, Fanteria Casale, Fanteria Monferrato, Fanteria Lombardia

the cavalry:
2 regiments(Piemonte Reale Cavalleria and Savoia Cavalleria)
each one of 650 men

the dragons:
4 regiments(Dragoni di Sua Maestà, Dragoni del Genevese, Dragoni di Piemonte e Dragoni della Regina)
each one of 650 men

 

[unmerged(36950)]

ops if forget the names of foreigner infantry:
Alemans regiments: Baden d'Urlach, Brempt, Vangenheim
French regiments: Ghimittier,Audibert,Marolles,Fleury
Varius regiments: Corsica, Lombardia, Sicilia, Valguarnera, Gioini

 

[Strategist]

OK, I have the files already, I only need to build a map... I have currently a clear map, with Prussia and some other German countries...

 

[Kaiser Franz]

good..good it is falling as i have foreseen it!

And thanks a lot for the OOB RomaAcqui! Orders of Battle are hard to get, especialy when they are at least 150 years old!

Sub-Forum...here we come!

 

[Rey]

I can also make some leaders pics

 

[Kaiser Franz]

thanks Rey! You couldn't do a few pilot, test pics could you? do Von Blucher, Marshal Ney and Frederick the Great if you can....i'm sure you'll do great!

 

[Buke]

What do you think about techs that are unresearchable for the Allies until certain events (defeat in 1805, 1806, 1809 perhaps) fire - this will give the French a competitive advantage.

The US Civil War scenario frequently results in a WW1 style war for me - playing as the South I had to turn virtually everyone into a soldier pop to sustain the war effort. However, increasing MP cost and other resources would be the way to go.

What about goods - many of them would not be producable in the 18th or early 19th century like machine parts - obviously we need to get rid of tanks and planes, but the fundamental problem is that we want to limit industrialisation without making economies collapse - seems very difficult unless you increase the price of steel or other secondary goods.

You might have better luck by just giving some advanced tech to France some advanced tech thru certain event chains. For example you could set an invention like “Corp level Movements” to fire for all nations after 1800 but in say 1792 France would get an event giving them this tech, thus they would have atleast 8 years of advantage over the others.

Now your comment about the Civil war and converting every POP is the whole problem, try making it very costly to convert pops into soldiers thru high cost in money and some goods like guns and clothes that you cane make very slow to make. Anything to make conversion to soldiers time consuming and costly for anything other than one or two pops at any one time.

As for goods I’m less sure as I’ve worked far more with HOI than VIC but you could experiment with limiting factories to 5 or 6 low profit types and increasing costs and time to build as well as increasing RGO profits. From what I understand the AI tries to maximize its economy to the fullest so if RGOs are more profitable than factories the AI may build few factories.
That will take some trial and error.

 

[Zuckergußgebäck]

but i have acunning plan..

Is it as cunning as a fox who has just been appointed proffessor of cunning at Oxford univesity?

 

[Kaiser Franz]

ah..Black Adder..my favourite...sniff..sniff....

Did the war start because a guy named Archy Duke shot an Ostrich?
No i think you mean the Arch-Duke of Austro-Hungary was shot!
No there definatly was an Ostrich!

 

[Zuckergußgebäck]

Did the war start because a guy named Archy Duke shot an Ostrich?
No i think you mean the Arch-Duke of Austro-Hungary was shot!
No there definatly was an Ostrich!

That´s so wrong!

I´ve heard that the war started because someone named Archy Duke shot an ostrich because he was hungry
I think you mean that smeone shot the arch-duke of austria-hungary.
No, there was definately an ostrich involved.

 

[Kaiser Franz]

Oh and Zuck...Storm of Steel has been updated!

 

[Kaiser Franz]

That´s so wrong!

I´ve heard that the war started because someone named Archy Duke shot an ostrich because he was hungry
I think you mean that smeone shot the arch-duke of austria-hungary.
No, there was definately an ostrich involved.

well! Am I supposed to know all the quotes!?

Row...Row...Row your boat gently down the stream..
Jump off!
Trousers down!
Isn't life a scream!
Woof!

 

[Zuckergußgebäck]

Row...Row...Row your boat gently down the stream..
Jump off!
Trousers down!
Isn't life a scream!
Woof!

Row, row, row your boat gently down the stream
If you see a crocodile
don´t forget to scream!

(OK, let´s stop this nonsense and move along with the mod, shall we?)

 

[Kaiser Franz]

I think we should move along...
Zuck..any comments on the techs for limiting the size of a division? Any ideas for techs, we should just stick to military techs for now though.

 

[Zuckergußgebäck]

I don´t think techs can limit the size of a division.

Let´s start with the economy, shall we?
What do we need:
*Railway replacements
*Factory replacements
*Resource replacements

Railways can be canals/roads
Factories that needs to be removed/replaced: Aeroplane F. Automobile F. Machine parts F. Telephone F. Steamer shipyard
Resources that needs to be removed/replaced: Finished products of the above.

 

[Rey]

Ok here are some pics:

Frederick II of Prussia (Frederick the Great)

Marshal Ney (France)

Marshal Murat (France)

Cheers

 

[Kaiser Franz]

OH MY GOD! they are great! I love them.....its sooo beautiful...sniff..sniff.

As Head of Grpahics you can do any leader you want! just find a good pic of them and do it! Just go out there and do your business!

 

[Kaiser Franz]

I don´t think techs can limit the size of a division.

Let´s start with the economy, shall we?
What do we need:
*Railway replacements
*Factory replacements
*Resource replacements

Railways can be canals/roads
Factories that needs to be removed/replaced: Aeroplane F. Automobile F. Machine parts F. Telephone F. Steamer shipyard
Resources that needs to be removed/replaced: Finished products of the above.

good enough for me...
the most important techs at the moment we need to focus on are industry/transport and the military, culture can eventualy be worked on but for now we need to get these important techs out of the way.

What do you think of some of the army techs i came up with? they are just rough ideas, but we could improve them. Navy might be as hard as comig up with tech ideas for the army.

For the moment, the map and events are the most important, but we shouldn't forget the techs, as a 18th Century mod without the right techs would be stupid.