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Here is a link for slavic graphics:http://www.angelfire.com/on3/slavia/graphics.html
Most of them are Russian and Serb.

 

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Will Brazil be a revolter????

 

[Vulture]

Well Greven, for monarchs you could use this site, it is quite accurate
http://web.raex.com/~obsidian/regindex.html

 

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Greven,

Can you please post a list of ALL new nations (aside from American Indians) that will be included in EU2?

Thanks.

Crook

 

[Vulture]

Greven, I mailed you a few monarch lists mate.

 

[Savant]

Oh My God!

If anyone have any links or pictures for any of these countries/tribes, we'd be really grateful.

Gelre, Magdeburg, Münster, Perm, Suzdal, Armenia Minor, Huron, Creek, Apache, Shawnee, Leni Lenape, Zapotec, Maya, Chimu, Kongo, Songhai, Benin, Zimbabwe, Mali, Ashanti, Manchu, Vijanyanagar, Vientiane, Laung Prabang, Taungu, Arakan.

I will have to buy three copies of EU 2 also!! Son of a ___ !!!

 

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Originally posted by VultureGFF
Greven, I mailed you a few monarch lists mate.

Thanks I'll look at them at work on monday.

/Greven

 

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Greven,

I just sent you the rulers/leaders for Delhi Sultanate.

Crook

 

[Vulture]

Originally posted by Greven


Thanks I'll look at them at work on monday.

/Greven

Okidoki
I sent the ones of Gelre, Suzdal, Armenia Minor, Vijanya*summink , Vientiane & Arakan

 

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What about Benin?????

 

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Re: Re: Colonial Heraldry

Originally posted by Bylandt
Post-colonial, rather. Of course it's not medieval. Black Africa had no concept of heraldry.

Untrue; it simply took on different forms than what we currently consider heradlry. E.g., the aforementioned cheek tattoos/scars.

Information on Africa from this period is extremely sketchy. And I doubt you will find common symbols used by a complete tribe.

I would not despair quite so easily; since we're dealing in all cases here with centralized kingdoms (such as the Ashanti Empire, Kingdom of Mali, etc.), it should be not be impossible to find some symbology or simmilar which was used to identify that particular Empire. You just need to dig a little deeeper and into more specialist literature.

Johan, following is an Encyclopædia Britannica Article that should give you a lead for the Ashanti.

Asante empire

Asante also spelled Ashanti West African state that occupied what is now southern Ghana in the 18th and 19th centuries. Extending from the Komoé River in the west to the Togo Mountains in the east, the Asante empire was active in the slave trade in the 18th century and unsuccessfully resisted British penetration in the 19th.

In their struggle against the suzerain state of Denkyera and lesser neighbouring states, the Asante people made little headway until the accession, probably in the 1670s, of Osei Tutu. After a series of campaigns that crushed all opposition, he was installed as Asantehene, or king of the new Asante state, whose capital was named Kumasi. His authority was symbolized by the Golden Stool, on which all subsequent kings were enthroned.

 

[Viking]

Originally posted by Greven
Perm = Sibiria in Russia
Suzdal = Vladimir in Russia

/Greven

Vladimir is muscovy. The state which was later muscovy was actualy originally the state of Vladimir. The capital was moved over the river to get it into safer position vis a vis the mongols. It is the same country as muscovy/russia.

 

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Originally posted by Viking


Vladimir is muscovy. The state which was later muscovy was actualy originally the state of Vladimir. The capital was moved over the river to get it into safer position vis a vis the mongols. It is the same country as muscovy/russia.

Not in my sources. They say Muscovy was a small state when Suzdal was one of the most powerful russian states in the area.

/Greven

 

[Sir James]

A brief synopsis of the Taungu dynasty in Burma:

http://www.asiatour.com/myanmar/e-01land/em-lan41.htm

Assuming it is intended to make the Taungu the main Burmese state, I would say the peacock is the most appropriate flag.

http://www.fotw.net/flags/mm-old.html#peacock

I have also seen versions that show the peacock head-on, and much more stylised, rather than part-profile like the fotw flag. Will try and get a photo or scan.

 

[Sir James]

Another Burma peacock:

http://homepages.force9.net/rothwell/burmaweb/burif.htm

 

[Demetrios]

Originally posted by Greven


Not in my sources. They say Muscovy was a small state when Suzdal was one of the most powerful russian states in the area.

/Greven

Greven, the Grand Prince of Vladimir was the most important title in northern Russia; whoever held it had power and prestige over his fellow princes. After 1389, the title and lands of the Grand Prince of Vladimir were always held by the Prince of Moscow. If you don't believe me, check whatever lists of rulers you have; you'll notice that Moscow and Vladimir were always held by the same person during this period. Suzdal was a separate state, true, but it was held by a close relative of the Prince of Moscow, and, indeed, was at times united with Moscow. By 1419, Moscow was supreme in northeastern Russia; states such as Suzdal, Nizhniy Novgorod, Uglich, Galich, Bryansk, Zvenigorod, and Beloozero were pretty much vassals of Moscow/Vladimir. Only Tver, Novgorod, Pskov, and (to a point) Ryazan were idependnet of Muscovite control by that point.

 

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http://www.lenape.org/aboutlenape.html has a graphic that looks like a leaf on a turtle's back. Don't know how "official" it is.

 

[Johan]

Thanks for all help

 

[Vulture]

Aaaaaah no problem mate... Always willing to help with EU
We profit from it of course, since we will play the masterpiece
Aren't we egocentric? LOL

 

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I think Demetrios' idea of using a glyph for the Maya is good. There should be glyphs for most animals in that area. Don't know much about Zapotec glyphs since I've seen mostly pottery from tha area.