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Regarding the Maya and Zapotec: Doubt if they had flags. Mayan warriors often dressed in jaguar skins and had names like Roaring Jaguar, so that animal may be suitable. The Quetzal bird would also be appropriate. The Zapotecs had a lot of symbology based on bats. Well, frogs too, but that seems boring.
 

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Following in the footsteps of Daustin...

If no reasonable semblance of a symbol for the Apache can be found, I'd suggest using a buffalo on that nation's shield.
 

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The Zia sun symbol is one of my favorite. However, I wouldn't think it appropriate for the Apache. The pueblo indians are extremely different from the Apache. Like the difference between Mongols and French farmers. Maybe a burning covered wagon for the Apache
 

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Daustin,

A little tough to justify a symbol for this game derived from something that wasn't introduced to the Apache until after 1820.

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Originally posted by Daustin
Regarding the Maya and Zapotec: Doubt if they had flags. Mayan warriors often dressed in jaguar skins and had names like Roaring Jaguar, so that animal may be suitable. The Quetzal bird would also be appropriate. The Zapotecs had a lot of symbology based on bats. Well, frogs too, but that seems boring.

As for the Maya, it's a pity that we are talking about a period long after the Classic Period. During the Classic, each Maya city-state had a particular emblem glyph which identified the city on Maya inscriptions, such as the knot of Tikal or the snake of Calakmul. These could have been easily converted, but, alas, these are 500 years in the past during the time period we are talking about. It's a pity that I can't find any reference to an emblem for Mayapan (which controled the northern Yucatan until its destruction in 1441), because that would probably be the best bet for having an emblem for the Maya in EU2.
 

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U have to get past the 2000 post mark. He got it because he contributed a lot to the community I think... Check his site.
Lots of custom shields, and about all custom shields used in scenarios are made by Jeremy.
 

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Originally posted by McGuinn
Lesser Armenia:

"Or a lion gules" A red lion on a gold shield.

As the King of Cyprus used the title:
"King of Jerusalem, Cyprus and Lesser Armenia"
he included their coat of arms in his.
Later it can be found in the Grand Arms of Venice.

Heh, it could be that your graphics for the Byzantine scenario might be featured in EU2! That would be really cool.

That's why I'm wondering if the Duchy of Athens will make it in EU2. After all the headache I went through in trying to find its coat of arms for the Byznatine Scenario...
 

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Hmm I was expecting Hannibal Barca to show up with 2000 links :).

I will start looking as well.

Marcus
 

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Originally posted by McGuinn


Yeah, that was a though one, Demetrios.
A lot of work on your part.
If it's not in EUII, perhaps we could add it in a mod.;)
Or do we need the "de la Roche" or the "Acciajoli" coat of arms this time?

NOOOOO!!!! :D

My head started to throb just thinking about having to try and translate French heraldry again! :D

Greven, what countries do you need the leaders for? I have through extensive independent research compiled comprehensive lists of the rulers of the nations of Europe and, now, parts of Central Asia (hopefully, I will get them on the Web someday). These are accurate to the actual day of transfer of power whenever possible, and I will be glad to share what I have with you guys.
 

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Originally posted by Demetrios


Greven, what countries do you need the leaders for? I have through extensive independent research compiled comprehensive lists of the rulers of the nations of Europe and, now, parts of Central Asia (hopefully, I will get them on the Web someday). These are accurate to the actual day of transfer of power whenever possible, and I will be glad to share what I have with you guys.


Wow! Great job Demetrios. Is that going back to 1419 or even earlier? I was waiting to see what you had before I responded to Suvorov's request in the Scenario forum on this. If you still would like help on compiling whatever rulers are still needed, please let me know. And I, for one, would love to see it on the web.
 

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Heh, they go back as far as is possible, Ami Hund. I've got legendary rulers of Greek city-states in the 1200s BC. I may complain about having to translate French Heraldese, but the headaches from that were nothing in comparison to compiling all the rulers of Republican Rome - two consuls a year for nearly 500 years, not including a fair number of replacement consuls and dictators, and of course Roman names were ludicrously long anyway. It tooks months just to do that alone.

For the most part, the only European states I don't have done are those that were centered on African or Asian lands, most notably the Byzantine and Turkish states. Although Constantinople/Istanbul is in Europe, these nations usually possessed more territory in Asia than in Europe, so I will compile them when I get around to doing Turkey (which, being physically mainly in Asia, I haven't gotten to yet). There are a few minor gaps here and there, such as the cantons of Switzerland before 1700, or the burgomeisters of Frankfurt and Lubeck before 1500 (or of any other German Free City other than Hamburg or Bremen, such as Augsburg or Ulm, for which I have no information whatsoever). The most irritating gap, the Bishops of Metz, Toul, and Verdun, was recently filled, although I only have first names for many of them.