Help me understand who will inherit.

[Drabant]

So, France(me), England and Portugal share the same dynasty. England has a 50 year old queen, and no heir, so hovering over her name says her death will result in a "succession war between Portugal and France". Does this mean that Portugal will inherit and I will be the odd guy, who has to fight both of them? When I noticed this I also noticed Portugal had a royal marriage, and I did not, so I got me one of those as well, but it still reads the same.

What determines who inherits?

 

[Sethcanes]

Not sure but I think England will receive an event where they get to choose between either France or Portugal, so it's 50-50 chance for it to choose either of them. Regardless of who they choose there will be a war between France and Portugal and England will fight on whatever side they chose to fight with.

 

[Drabant]

The question is if there is any way I can affect who they chose then?

 

[Xara]

Get higher prestige.

 

[Drabant]

Are you sure that works? And is it the only thing that matters? If you win outright due to higher prestige, I'm more or less done for.

 

[Xara]

Prestige is one of the primary factors determining who the personal union will be awarded to, who will be the attacker (2nd place) contesting it in a succession war, and who will be left out (3rd place+)

 

[Narkis]

Not sure but I think England will receive an event where they get to choose between either France or Portugal, so it's 50-50 chance for it to choose either of them. Regardless of who they choose there will be a war between France and Portugal and England will fight on whatever side they chose to fight with.

There's no event involved. It's purely prestige based, as Xara said.

 

[Pitt The Elder]

Get more prestige, and use the Claim Throne option.

 

[brifbates]

There's no event involved. It's purely prestige based, as Xara said.

Not entirely true, lucky nation status quite clearly has an effect that breaks the normal rules on PU formations. Since Portugal is lucky it is almost a sure thing that they will get the PU.

 

[dstarsboy]

Get more prestige, and use the Claim Throne option.

I don't think Claim Throne will make a difference in this situation. I know if you're the only country in the "Monarch Death Personal Union" list then claim throne will give you a CB, but I am pretty sure that Claim Throne when it states "Succession War" between your country and another won't do anything other than tick people off. Can anyone confirm this?

 

[Xara]

I don't think Claim Throne will make a difference in this situation. I know if you're the only country in the "Monarch Death Personal Union" list then claim throne will give you a CB, but I am pretty sure that Claim Throne when it states "Succession War" between your country and another won't do anything other than tick people off. Can anyone confirm this?

I have used it before and it changed the succession contenders to me + one of the others. Even when I wasn't part of that dynasty.

 

[BierGrills]

If you Claim Throne, than it will say "succession war between France and Portugal"! I tested it 2 times so i can confirm it.

 

[Drabant]

BierGrills, even if you had lower prestige than the other party?

 

[dstarsboy]

If you Claim Throne, than it will say "succession war between France and Portugal"! I tested it 2 times so i can confirm it.

I have used it before and it changed the succession contenders to me + one of the others. Even when I wasn't part of that dynasty.

My question is specifically whether or not you get a CB if you are already one of the countries in the succession war and you Claim Throne.

 

[Schmoekoeksklok]

My question is specifically whether or not you get a CB if you are already one of the countries in the succession war and you Claim Throne.

If you share a dynasty with them, you will get a CB. If you don't, you won't. Doesn't matter what would happen in an eventual succession war.

 

[Xara]

My question is specifically whether or not you get a CB if you are already one of the countries in the succession war and you Claim Throne.

The CB has nothing to do with who is listed to inherit, union, go to war, or whatnot. If you share dynasty and can claim, you get the CB. If you don't share it, you don't get one.

 

[unmerged(809069)]

Succesion order:
- Throne Claimant by same dynasty
- Throne claminat by rm
- Highest prestige of everybody, who has rm or same dynasty
correct me if im wrong pls

 

[Myonline]

afaik you don't get succession wars anymore if you are not of the dynasty. It will simply state that someone from your dynasty will take over affairs

 

[Xara]

afaik you don't get succession wars anymore if you are not of the dynasty. It will simply state that someone from your dynasty will take over affairs

You won't naturally be placed into one, but you can still be part of a succession war if you claim it.

 

[BierGrills]

If you Claim Throne, than it will say "succession war between France and Portugal"! I tested it 2 times so i can confirm it.

I was Scandinava and the oter one was France. They had 99 presige.