Help me understand court language

[Lord Grumbledook]

I tried to wrap my head around the various modifiers and conditions mentioned in the dev diary but I fear this might be one of those cases where it looks like you had to make a deliberate choice, carefully weighing pros and cons against each other, but then it ultimately boils down to a rather simple solution that always fits.

So the way I understand this is that you want to adopt a court language spoken in a court with significantly higher grandeur than yours if your own grandeur is rather low because you will get grandeur based on the difference. So let's say yourt court is ranked 30th -> adopt Greek court language because the BE's court is usually No. 1.

Now in case your own court is ranked rather high - as it will most likely always be for the player - is there any reason not to just adopt your culture's language as court language because only then you get the native language bonus plus an additional bonus for every county in your realm that speaks your court language?

I'm currently the king of Sicily and my court language is d'oil so i get a grandeur bonus because the court of the king of France, ranked lower than mine, speaks the same language, right? Now I wanted to adopt Greek as my court language, partially because my and the BE's court are the two most prestigious courts overall and partially to emphazise a connection the the Mediterranean and the Byzantine heritage for RP reasons.

But... wouldn't it be easier to just adopt Italian as court language because of the mentioned bonuses and because it's my native language? If that's the case... well, it seems to be quite boring. Why would I care about the language some peasants in my country speak? Shouldn't it be more prestigious to speak a rather exotic language? Like French was pretty much the court language in England and Scotland for the same reasons? At least up to a certain point.

 

[naq29]

I don't know about it either but in my game everyone from Irish to Mongols are speaking Greek now.

 

[Slow Bathroom]

From what I can tell the main bonus comes from having a language that is spoken at many courts. Like at the 867 start Arabic gives a bigger bonus than Greek because there are a bunch of Arabic courts but only two Greek ones. The problem is even if you actually know how the bonuses work and are trying to exploit them you're going to get like +10 grandeur from your language at most and if you have a human brain you already have 90 grandeur without even trying.

 

[Beyond Disbelief]

I don't know about it either but in my game everyone from Irish to Mongols are speaking Greek now.

While the AI adoption for the first 100 years seem reasonable as the game progresses yeah it gets weird like that. There should be more clustering effect than Greek-speaking Sapmi's or Arabic speaking Italians.

 

[Allen418]

Eureka! Now I understand!

I have a campaign where I’m staying in confederate partition while traveling around the map, and while reading your post, I realized why my court grandeur was acting so weird, falling from 7 to 0 (!!!) during successions. It’s because as I migrated kingdoms my new ruler would have a kingdom where none of the vassals spoke the court language. Thanks for the post!