HELP ME A secret cult converted a good third of my vassal in the ERE!!

[machupingu]

Seljuks I can handle, strategos I can crush, but I can't find a way to stop my greek subjects from converting to the Miaphysite faith!!! And to get things worse, almost all of these heretics have the "true believer" modifier which prevent me from converting them back!

 

[WJS]

Join them!

 

[Vokasak]

Imprison and burn

 

[Kapitalisti]

Insanely inconvenient religious shenanigans seem fitting for the ERE. I mean, this is the empire that had blood on the streets over the hugely important issue of precise proportions of divinity in Jesus.

 

[machupingu]

Imprison and burn

If only things were that simple...
Actually, most of these miaphysites aren't directly under the emperor, they are vassals of vassals. It's very difficult to touch them without disturbing the entire chain of command.

 

[machupingu]

Insanely inconvenient religious shenanigans seem fitting for the ERE. I mean, this is the empire that had blood on the streets over the hugely important issue of precise proportions of divinity in Jesus.

That would be true during the iconoclast cris yes, but in my bookmark (1066) the dust has finally settled down.

 

[Patriarch of Bub]

They are pretty much harmless, i would let them be.

 

[Vityviktor]

I remember when some Cathar cult did the same in my Asturias. It was very hard to fight back... So I joined them. That was fun.

 

[Vetgirig]

Join them. Then form a new cult. For the original religion. Fight fire with fire...

 

[beartjah]

If it's only 1/3 of the empire it's a convenient excuse to get some free revocatiobs/rearrange any internal border gore. So purge any heretics that are direct vassals. The indirect vassals are problems for your vassalsearch to deal with, they're better to have out in the open rather than building up more strength for the cult in secret till its an actual threat...

 

[Nyrael]

In future, turn this stupid, unrealistic feature off unless you yourself intend to use it. Not sure what can be done for this campaign other than basically start a Spanidh Ibquisition (they won't expect that)

 

[Urzhail64]

If you can't beat them...join them.

 

[fall back]

If they aren’t going to cause problems then they don’t matter get rid of troublemakers it’s better than having a cult run amok

 

[WJS]

Yeah, the golden lining of a secret society emerging is that it isn't secret anymore.

 

[SBerger]

Seljuks I can handle, strategos I can crush, but I can't find a way to stop my greek subjects from converting to the Miaphysite faith!!! And to get things worse, almost all of these heretics have the "true believer" modifier which prevent me from converting them back!

I had something like this happen when I was king of England when the Cathars made their move, I revoked pretty much half the titles in the Island and marched 50k troops into Normandy to revoke the rest. Blood and steel fixes things pretty quickly. And on the bright side, with all the titles I revoked and handed out, I got myself a good chunk of loyal vassals for some years.

 

[Prince Ire]

Play with secret religious cults turned off.

 

[MK1980]

force convert or revoke the affected direct vassals. ignore the sub vassals below them. they are not your problem.

 

[Rags17]

If it's only 1/3 of the empire it's a convenient excuse to get some free revocations/rearrange any internal border gore. So purge any heretics that are direct vassals. The indirect vassals are problems for your vassals each to deal with, they're better to have out in the open rather than building up more strength for the cult in secret till its an actual threat...

Revoke title from your direct vassal, hand out to Zealous Cruel substitute. God will do the rest.

In future, turn this stupid, unrealistic feature off unless you yourself intend to use it. Not sure what can be done for this campaign other than basically start a Spanish Inquisition (they won't expect that)

Seriously, how is this any different to starting as the ERE in the 769 start ? Apart from this time being Miaphysites rather than Iconoclasts it sounds almost identical to me.

I say RP the hell out it - go with the flow, try and manage a cosmopolitan realm or go medieval on some assess and start cracking heads.

Some day someone will write a book about your exploits !

 

[Vokasak]

force convert or revoke the affected direct vassals. ignore the sub vassals below them. they are not your problem.

Force converting is how these problems usually start.

 

[jonjowett]

Insanely inconvenient religious shenanigans seem fitting for the ERE. I mean, this is the empire that had blood on the streets over the hugely important issue of precise proportions of divinity in Jesus.

That would be true during the iconoclast cris yes, but in my bookmark (1066) the dust has finally settled down.

Historical side-note: I think that Kapitalisti was referring to the various monophysite disturbances (because he says "precise proportions of divinity") - eg. around the time of Justinian I.