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I'm going to do it. For the moment I'm working on this http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showpost.php?p=10465695&postcount=13
and I miss the pics of

Tannu tuva
Kyzyl airport
Start year 1952 – 1970
Skill level 1, aeronautics, management and aircraft testing.

You could replace that with the Tuvinian Air Force team that I proposed.;) If you really feel like it you can give my TT Aeronautics as well.

http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showpost.php?p=10539991&postcount=463

I managed to download the Korean pack. Please find below the teams:

My proposal would be to reduce the skills by 2 for teams skilled 6 (with very few exceptions) and by 1 for those teams skilled 4 and 5

Wow....:eek:

That makes Korea almost better then Japan...
 
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Well the original was not bad either. Out of 9 teams 3 were skill 6:

Code:
13500;Daewoo Shipbuilding;T13500;5;1930;1970;naval_engineering;naval_artillery;electronics;technical_efficiency;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
13501;Defense Construction Agency;T9800;6;1930;1970;mechanics;artillery;general_equipment;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
13502;Hyundai Heavy Industries;T13502;6;1930;1970;mechanics;technical_efficiency;rocketry;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
13503;Korea Maritime University;T13503;4;1930;1970;naval_training;naval_engineering;management;mechanics;seamanship;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
13504;Korean Air Aerospace Division;T13504;4;1930;1970;aeronautics;electronics;technical_efficiency;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
13505;Kyongseong Precision;T13505;4;1930;1970;mechanics;industrial_engineering;management;technical_efficiency;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
13506;Laboratory of Army Research and Development Command;T9800;5;1930;1970;mathematics;chemistry;mechanics;management;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
13507;Samsung;T13507;6;1930;1970;electronics;management;artillery;aeronautics;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
13508;Seoul National University;T13508;4;1930;1970;management;chemistry;mechanics;mathematics;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
13509;Seoul Military Academy;T10401;4;1930;1970;centralized_execution;small_unit_tactics;large_unit_tactics;small_unit_tactics;training;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
 

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Well the original was not bad either. Out of 9 teams 3 were skill 6:

It seems they based those skills on their modern reputation...


In other news I have visited a forum looking for Romatet photos, somebody replied with the same photo...:rofl:
 

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Well the original was not bad either. Out of 9 teams 3 were skill 6:

Code:
13500;Daewoo Shipbuilding;T13500;5;1930;1970;naval_engineering;naval_artillery;electronics;technical_efficiency;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
13501;Defense Construction Agency;T9800;6;1930;1970;mechanics;artillery;general_equipment;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
13502;Hyundai Heavy Industries;T13502;6;1930;1970;mechanics;technical_efficiency;rocketry;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
13503;Korea Maritime University;T13503;4;1930;1970;naval_training;naval_engineering;management;mechanics;seamanship;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
13504;Korean Air Aerospace Division;T13504;4;1930;1970;aeronautics;electronics;technical_efficiency;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
13505;Kyongseong Precision;T13505;4;1930;1970;mechanics;industrial_engineering;management;technical_efficiency;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
13506;Laboratory of Army Research and Development Command;T9800;5;1930;1970;mathematics;chemistry;mechanics;management;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
13507;Samsung;T13507;6;1930;1970;electronics;management;artillery;aeronautics;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
13508;Seoul National University;T13508;4;1930;1970;management;chemistry;mechanics;mathematics;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
13509;Seoul Military Academy;T10401;4;1930;1970;centralized_execution;small_unit_tactics;large_unit_tactics;small_unit_tactics;training;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x

Those 3 are the exceptions I meant
 

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Well the original was not bad either. Out of 9 teams 3 were skill 6:

Code:
13500;Daewoo Shipbuilding;T13500;5;1930;1970;naval_engineering;naval_artillery;electronics;technical_efficiency;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
13501;Defense Construction Agency;T9800;6;1930;1970;mechanics;artillery;general_equipment;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
13502;Hyundai Heavy Industries;T13502;6;1930;1970;mechanics;technical_efficiency;rocketry;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
13503;Korea Maritime University;T13503;4;1930;1970;naval_training;naval_engineering;management;mechanics;seamanship;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
13504;Korean Air Aerospace Division;T13504;4;1930;1970;aeronautics;electronics;technical_efficiency;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
13505;Kyongseong Precision;T13505;4;1930;1970;mechanics;industrial_engineering;management;technical_efficiency;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
13506;Laboratory of Army Research and Development Command;T9800;5;1930;1970;mathematics;chemistry;mechanics;management;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
13507;Samsung;T13507;6;1930;1970;electronics;management;artillery;aeronautics;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
13508;Seoul National University;T13508;4;1930;1970;management;chemistry;mechanics;mathematics;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
13509;Seoul Military Academy;T10401;4;1930;1970;centralized_execution;small_unit_tactics;large_unit_tactics;small_unit_tactics;training;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x


13500 Daewoo Ship Building is established in 1973, the 4th Republic Era(President is Park Chung-hee). look here. http://www.dsme.co.kr/

13501 Defense Construction Agency <- Exactly, WHAT IS THIS? No one of Koreans know about it. I think it's ADD(Agency for Defense Development).
it is established in 1970, at Seoul. http://www.add.re.kr/

13502 Hyundai Heavy Ind. <- it is also established 1970. First company of Hyundai was started in 1937. at Seoul. but... forget it. somebody of left-wing in Korea. said "President Park's Volkwagen.". Yes, Park helped this company very well.
http://www.hyundaigroup.com/

13503 Korean Maritime Academy <- it's need fix. in Korea, official name is Korea Naval Academy. http://www.navy.ac.kr/english/intro/intro_aim.jsp
it was established in 1946. but there's no ship for navy.

NOTE : Shon Woon-il is first CNO in Korea. In 1927, he was learned at German Navy with help of Nationalist China. and 1930, he was arrested in Korea with Japanese. because he was connector of Provisional Government of the Republic of Korea. after 1945. he became CNO of Korea.
Shin Soon-seong is first nany leader of Korea Empire. from 1903 to 1912, he was captain of Yang-Moo(means 'earnig army's power for nation', English merchantdise ship. it was very old and trick of Japan, used in Russo-Japan war as cargoship.) and Kwang-Je(means 'earning light', made at Kawasaki Shipbuilding). In 1905, Eulsa Treaty. he and his ship was treaten but he did his best. so he could saved her to 1912. but died in 1944.

13504 Korean Air Aerospace Division <-sorry, ROKAF IS MADE IN 1949.

and before that, in USA, Califonia, Kim Jong-lim and Roh Baek-lin was established Willows School in 1920. but Roh was died in 1926. Kim is first million-dollar man of Korean who lives in USA, so he can help Korean liberators.
Kwon Ki-ok is first Korean woman flyer (at official). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kwon_Ki-ok

13505 Kyeongseong Precision is GoldStar (now, LG Electroics. http://www.lge.com/us/index.jsp ). it was established in 1958.
at my zipfile, Lucky is brother of Goldstar, started in 1947, but it's CEO Ku In-hwe was made his first company(ancestor of Lucky, name is Ku In-hwe store, was grocery.) in 1933. so it was inserted.

13506 Laboratory of Army Research and Development Command <- Sounds like ADD. but i don't know about it. sorry.

13507 Samsung <- it is nice. Yeah, really it was.

13508 Seoul National University <- Started 'Kyeong-seong Empire University' made of Japanese hands. and it's okay.

13509 Seoul Military Academy <- NOBODY KNOWS WHERE IT IS?
so it have to replace Ji Chung-cheon. (who is same man 'Lee Chung Chon'. 'Lee' is his fake familyname.)
 
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Don't worry. We are happy that a native is here to help us. Paradox made fantasy TTs for many countries. They usually of the type: Capital Industrial Combine, Ministry of Defence, XY's Navy, etc. Best to replace them with real organisations and factories.
 

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My proposal would be to reduce the skills by 2 for teams skilled 6 (with very few exceptions) and by 1 for those teams skilled 4 and 5

oh, please... let's negotiate it.

at least,
1 of Nuclear (merge to Seoul Univ. is ok, Choi is one of president of there. http://www.useoul.edu/about/ab0205.jsp)
2 of Industry (Supung and Woo is great.)
1 of Infantry (Samsung, or IAF.)
1 of Air (Korean Air is very good, it was started 1936.)
1 of Navy (exactly, Jinhae is greatest.)
2 of Army Doctrine (Ji and Lee is great. Park is... don't do that! :eek: )
1 of Air Doctrine (Kwon is better. Park is worst.)
1 of Navy Doctrine (Shon is great.)


and after i uploaded, Yuhan Corp is requested. http://www.yuhan.co.kr/Eng-Main.asp
and look here, too. New Il-han(who established Yuhan Corp. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Il-han )
 
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oh, please... let's negotiate it.

at least,
1 of Nuclear (merge to Seoul Univ. is ok, Choi is one of president of there. http://www.useoul.edu/about/ab0205.jsp)
2 of Industry (Supung and Woo is great.)
1 of Infantry (Samsung, or IAF.)
1 of Air (Korean Air is very good, it was started 1936.)
1 of Navy (exactly, Jinhae is greatest.)
2 of Army Doctrine (Ji and Lee is great. Park is... don't do that! :eek: )
1 of Air Doctrine (Kwon is better. Park is worst.)
1 of Navy Doctrine (Shon is great.)


and after i uploaded, Yuhan Corp is requested. http://www.yuhan.co.kr/Eng-Main.asp
and look here, too. New Il-han(who established Yuhan Corp. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Il-han )

Above it is posted the list of the TTs and it is coded. http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showpost.php?p=10547680&postcount=544

Please post in this thread the coded list according to your opinon and the reasons.
 

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Code:
13500;Seoul Univ.;t13500;1;1924;2000;nuclear_engineering;mathematics;nuclear_physics;management;chemistry;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
13501;Korea Univ.;t13501;1;1905;2000;electronics;mathematics;mechanics;training;management;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
13502;Supung Hydroeletric Plant;t13502;2;1937;2000;general_equipment;mechanics;industrial_engineering;technical_efficiency;management;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
13503;Woo Jangchun;t13503;3;1920;2000;chemistry;mechanics;management;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
13504;Korean Air;t13504;3;1936;2000;aeronautics;electronics;technical_efficiency;rocketry;artillery;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
13505;Samsung;t13505;3;1938;2000;artillery;mechanics;chemistry;electronics;technical_efficiency;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
13506;Lucky;t13506;2;1933;2000;artillery;mechanics;chemistry;electronics;training;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
13507;Ji Cheongcheon;t13507;2;1919;2000;infantry_focus;large_unit_tactics;decentralized_execution;individual_courage;training;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
13508;Lee Jongchan;t13508;1;1937;2000;combined_arms_focus;small_unit_tactics;centralized_execution;technical_efficiency;training;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
13509;Kwon Kiok;t13509;1;1907;2000;aircraft_testing;bomber_tactics;decentralized_execution;fighter_tactics;combined_arms_focus;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
13510;Son Wonil;t13510;1;1930;2000;seamanship;large_taskforce_tactics;naval_training;centralized_execution;carrier_tactics;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x

Fixed as your wish ^^
and pictures' name(3rd column) are renamed as Txxxx.

13500 Seoul Univ. is made in 1924, 'Govern with Culture' Era (1920s) by Japan. it is first university of Korea and nowaday, biggest and most famous national university in Korea.
13501 Korea Univ. is made in 1905. it was started as 'Bo-seong Precision School'. Nowaday, it is a member of S.K.Y Group (like IVY league, Seoul, Korea, Yonsei.)
13502 Supung Hydroeletric Plant is made up in 1937, by Japan at Amrok (Yalu) river(N.korea). it is biggest hydroplant in korea.
13503 Woo Jangchun is famous botanist in Korea and Japan. he is inventor(?) of 'no-seed watermelon'.
13504 Korean Air (at Korean, 조선항공공업주식회사 Joseon Aero-industry Inc.) is established in 1936, with three DC-3 plane. it was managed to japan in 1944, but after liberated it became 'Korean Air'.
13505 Samsung is one of most famous Korean company in the world. started in 1938.
13506 Lucky is started in 1949. and became one of most sucsessfull chaebul of Korea. but it's CEO Ku In-hwe was made his first company(ancestor of Lucky, name is Ku In-hwe store, was grocery.) in 1933. so it was inserted.
13507 Ji Cheongcheon was Chief of Korean Liberate Army. educated at manchuko, but for nation, be one part of Provisional Government of the Republic of Korea. and died 1957 at Korea.
13508 Lee Jongchan is educated at Japan Military Arcademy at 1937. and do his work in manchrian and southern asia. at 1950, he became Commander of Capital Guard Corps.
13509 Kwon Kiok was first women pilot of Korea. learned at Yunnan Airforce academy in 1925, and practice bombing Japan. in 1937, she was one of Nationalist China's army's officer. and died in 1988.
13510 Son Wonil is first CNO in Korea. In 1927, he was learned at German Navy with help of Nationalist China. and 1930, he was arrested in Korea with Japanese. because he was connector of Provisional Government of the Republic of Korea. after 1945. he became CNO of Korea.
 
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13500;Seoul Univ.;t13500;1;1924;2000;nuclear_engineering;mathematics;nuclear_physics;management;chemistry;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
13501;Korea Univ.;t13501;1;1905;2000;electronics;mathematics;mechanics;training;management;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
13502;Supung Hydroeletric Plant;t13502;2;1937;2000;general_equipment;mechanics;industrial_engineering;technical_efficiency;management;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
13503;Woo Jangchun;t13503;3;1920;2000;chemistry;mechanics;management;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
13504;Korean Air;t13504;3;1936;2000;aeronautics;electronics;technical_efficiency;rocketry;artillery;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
13505;Samsung;t13505;3;1938;2000;artillery;mechanics;chemistry;electronics;technical_efficiency;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
13506;Lucky;t13506;2;1933;2000;artillery;mechanics;chemistry;electronics;training;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
13507;Ji Cheongcheon;t13507;2;1919;2000;infantry_focus;large_unit_tactics;decentralized_execution;individual_courage;training;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
13508;Lee Jongchan;t13508;1;1930;2000;combined_arms_focus;small_unit_tactics;centralized_execution;technical_efficiency;training;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
13509;Kwon Kiok;t13509;1;1907;2000;aircraft_testing;bomber_tactics;decentralized_execution;fighter_tactics;combined_arms_focus;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
13510;Son Wonil;t13510;1;1930;2000;seamanship;large_taskforce_tactics;naval_training;centralized_execution;carrier_tactics;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x

Fixed as your wish ^^
and pictures' name(3rd column) are renamed as Txxxx.

Sorry do you notice that you assigned skill 1 or 2 to the TTs?
 

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Cardus. There are some language problem here. We can short it out. May I later suggest a setup that we can agree on?
 

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Cardus. There are some language problem here. We can short it out. May I later suggest a setup that we can agree on?

Obviously yes. The point is that I don't bother at all if the TTs are 10 or 40. What I'm aiming at is to get "right" skills and specialities for "real" TTs. For this reason if gpg0109 is able to help us it would be beneficial for the project.
 

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He knows Korean history, and their proposition is historically accurate, and the vanilla is not as he pointed out.
 

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Sorry do you notice that you assigned skill 1 or 2 to the TTs?

argh, i think 3~4 is enough but you were said...

My proposal would be to reduce the skills by 2 for teams skilled 6 (with very few exceptions) and by 1 for those teams skilled 4 and 5

and, i should make Lee Jongchan to more powerful because he made first breaktrough of 38 Line in Korean War. agree with me?


and i'll refresh and upload PRK's TT as fast as i can make.
 

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For: http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showpost.php?p=10545536&postcount=518

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Link with proper naming convention: http://www.2shared.com/file/10071671/ab07e37d/TT_AUS.html


For this link: http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showpost.php?p=10545647&postcount=519
I found another picture of Jean Charles Romatet without the copyright:
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If you want to use it, here is the picture for the techteam:
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And http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showpost.php?p=10545828&postcount=520 & http://www.2shared.com/file/10050217/d14b7d17/pics.html are in the correct format.
 

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He knows Korean history, and their proposition is historically accurate, and the vanilla is not as he pointed out.

Exactly for this reason I want him on board.

argh, i think 3~4 is enough but you were said...

Please have a look at the vanilla set up of the Korean TTs. That set up is not correct from the historical point of view but it is a point of reference for skills. We assume that the vanilla set up is balanced. For this reason if you see, for example, that industry is rated 6 and chemistry 4 please try to stick to it in your proposal. If you cannot because, for example, Lee Jongchan was very good and made an important breakthrough please explain here the reason why you want to deviate from the vanilla set up.

and, i should make Lee Jongchan to more powerful because he made first breaktrough of 38 Line in Korean War. agree with me?

Yes, please see above.

and i'll refresh and upload PRK's TT as fast as i can make.

Please do it.
 
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Thank you very much Stalkov

For this link: http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showpost.php?p=10545647&postcount=519
I found another picture of Jean Charles Romatet without the copyright:
038_Romatet.jpg


If you want to use it, here is the picture for the techteam:
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or
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And http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showpost.php?p=10545828&postcount=520 & http://www.2shared.com/file/10050217/d14b7d17/pics.html are in the correct format.

No because this is a WWI pic
 
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Wrap up

I think that with some few more additions we have almost done ver 1.1. Please find below the list of tasks that should be done within this week end at the latest:
1) Add Siam if cegorach is in time with pics and coded TTs (otherwise let us postpone it to ver 1.2)
2) Add Corvuz Crovax proposals if he is in time with pics and coded TTs (otherwise let us postpone it to ver 1.2)
3) Code Korea and add 1 team to Tannu Tuva
4) Code Slovenia http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showpost.php?p=10510907&postcount=237 (please provide feedbacks)
5) Add 3 more teams to Austria
6) Add the pictures which are missed
7) Complete the tests/checks

Please let us concentrate on the points above mentioned because we need to close this version.
 
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