Help Contribute with new minister and leaders

[Pioniere]

It might be too late but I like to make a thread that gives us opportunity to come with tips and suggestion for what paradox can use as new ministers and leaders. I have read that paradox have added some new already but a suggestion or two wont hurt.
I think the all the ministers should be as historical as possible. One or two fictional army leaders I think we can survive. Some countries in this game would not need any new ministers or army leaders others would do. I hope other user at this site would have some interest in this. I have a thoughts about fascist leaders for France.

 

[Pioniere]

Pierre Laval

As the french say this mans name could be written in any direction... from fare left to far right.

He is already in the game but I think we can have him as fascist leader for German/Italy dominated Vichy France?
http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?t=410902

 

[bestmajor]

hehe, i think its too late already

but as you seem to be motivated, why dont you bring up an armaments mnister for NATCHI?

currently the minister is the very same who rules shanxi (well and Shanxi has two german nazi generals, interesting, no?)

however this would be cool.

or another navy minister for menjiang as he's a german as well and was never ever somewhere in asia ....

deleting Zborzil / L2749 in austria would also be nice as he is Odilo Globocnik, historically ( http://www.aeiou.at/aeiou.encyclop.g/g473007.htm )

and tons of others, dead, fakes, etc

simply too late i think

 

[Pioniere]

Fernand de Brinon

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fernand_de_Brinon

Fascist
I have been recommended him as fascist leader for Vichy France. he would be minister for foreign affairs.

 

[Pioniere]

vichy france as facist or national socialist

Marcel déat

Fascist
Minister of armament

Joseph Darnand

national socialist

ruthless Minister of Security

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Darnand

Eugène Deloncle

Engineer
he can be division leader for Vichy France.
MJ. general
Start level 1 max 4

Raphaël Alibert

national socialist
Vichy Minister of Justice

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raphaël_Alibert

Louis Darquier de Pellepoix, - possible Ministry of Security candidate
national socialist

Hubert Lagardelle, Vichy Minister of work - Minister of Armament with a trait related to unions would be nice.

Georges Loustaunau-Lacau, former Army Major, former secretary of Pétain

Military Intelligence director



Maurice Delaunay

Charles Maurras, Fascist ideologue and founder of the Fascist-Royalist Action Française.

Jean Bichelonne, Vichy Minister of Production. A Minister of Armament with Administrative Genius trait would be fitting.

 

[bestmajor]

brinon

maybe look here:

http://www.stonyroad.de/forum/showthread.php?t=9156&page=2

a patch is never to late it arrives prissily when it needs to

is this really necessary?

 

[Pioniere]

is this really necessary?[/QUOTE]

sorry

thanks for the very nice picture you got there.

 

[unmerged(87183)]

LOL, Johan needs to see that!

If we can gather a dedicated bunch, this could probably be added in future patches for AoD.

 

[Pioniere]

LOL, Johan needs to see that!

If qwe can gather a dedicated bunch, this could probably be added in future patches for AoD.

If you find something form your good books dont hesitate. I need to rest now. good night.

 

[Pioniere]

We do need army leaders for the china warlords even if they are a bit fictiv the best would be if someone find handful of histrorical persons to be used.

 

[Kovakanki]

I have done some research on Finnish ministers, especially fascists, communist/leftist and also post-ww2 people. I'd be glad to contribute for patch, otherwise I migth release my work as a little mod.

 

[kunadam]

There was an old thread with the same intention.
Any suggestion and amendments are welcome.
Leader and minister pics should aslo be renamed to conform the M_TAG_Name.bmp or L_TAG_Name.bmp format.
Alternatively the old HoI2 format can also be used: Name_tag.bmp


ps. As you might have seen from other threads PI now think about release in March or so, meaning there is plenty of time for contribution.

 

[Tormentor]

I asked this question in the old thread but noone answer me, so I repost it here...
"you are doing a great job but I have one question... I hate the aievents in hoi2 where ai replace ministers on the basis of his needs like a bonus on strategic planes or stuff like that...And you can see fascist minister in USA or UK. So i was wondering if aod will be free from those unrealistic events..."

 

[kunadam]

I think there is a range of ideologies that is available for any given government except is there is no one to hold the position.
So for fascist ministers you need to be quite right winged and autocratic.

 

[bestmajor]

And you can see fascist minister in USA or UK.

same like germany where you can see the democratic ministers eg for army and navy.

this is hard coded AFAIK (but i doubt you see the ones with the wrong ideology eg as foreign minister). only a few ministries are affected.

and those who contributed leaders/ministers never worked on events

 

[Tormentor]

I ALWAYS see fascist ministers in USA (chief of army) and england and social conservative ministers in italy...however the point is that I'd like to see historical ministers in cabinet...

 

[unmerged(87183)]

I ALWAYS see fascist ministers in USA (chief of army) and england and social conservative ministers in italy...however the point is that I'd like to see historical ministers in cabinet...

We had a few Right Wing leaders in our government at the time...

 

[Tormentor]

ok but...the point is that if i change ministers i get a dissent malus but ai changes ministers depending on his needs without dissent...however I ask this because everyone here is trying to makes historical mod as much as realistic as possibile changing the name of every divisions and stuff like that and instead political issues seems to be not considerate... I think if we add ministers we should also be sure to not see Kenneth Althaus as chief of army in 1936... however if noone change these ai events I'll do it by myself manually...

 

[secretalex125]

Well,seeing that already the Tech Team pack can very easily act as a tech team patch for HoI2,I say that doing the same idea of an patch with Ministers would be pretty cool.

 

[kunadam]

Tormentor: Do you know where are they located in the AI files? If you find them it can be changed, if not, then it is hard coded and the modding community cannot do anything about it.

I'm very sure, that human players cannot change to very different minister set, so it is probably something in the code.