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arkdeniz

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Normally foreign lands (being those you don't have cores on) will give you 20% of their usual amount of IC.

The +15% minister will boost that 20% to 35%. He's rather useful.
 

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Gah, I never knew that. I interpreted +15% to mean taking you from 20% to 23%. It's +15 percentage points, not percent. :wacko:

I still prefer the one who gives manpower though.


I always used to make this mistake too, it is not so clearly explained in-game...

For the second, it really depends on the country you are playing.....
 

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yeah, the prince of terror is awful to have in peacetime-he gives you +10% consumer goods demand:(
 

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yeah, the prince of terror is awful to have in peacetime-he gives you +10% consumer goods demand:(

Consumer goods demand isn't that bad. He's better then the efficient sociopath at any rate. Look on the bright side, you have a higher consumer goods demand yes, but at least you can use the money generated from it for trade. With the Sociopath you're losing .10 manpower. I'd take Prince of Terror anyday of the week.
 

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Consumer goods demand isn't that bad. He's better then the efficient sociopath at any rate. Look on the bright side, you have a higher consumer goods demand yes, but at least you can use the money generated from it for trade. With the Sociopath you're losing .10 manpower. I'd take Prince of Terror anyday of the week.

Who has the "effecient sociopath"? Don't recall seeing that sort in the listings. Is that a nation specific guy or is it part of that "man of the people" (iirc) dude that cuts domestic spending by a decent percent?
 

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Who has the "effecient sociopath"? Don't recall seeing that sort in the listings. Is that a nation specific guy or is it part of that "man of the people" (iirc) dude that cuts domestic spending by a decent percent?
Huh? The Efficient Sociopath is the guy who increases Foreign IC use by +10% but reduces manpower growth by -10%. Essentially, exactly what it says: efficient, but a genocidal sociopath. And possibly the worst Minister of Security choice in the game up there with Corrupt Kleptocrat. As for who has them, if I recall correctly there are some in Nazi Germany for rather obvious and best left unstated reasons.

Man of the People, on the other hand, is a great guy. Foreign manpower +10% and manpower +10%. Absolutely necessary for a manpower-strapped country. His character description is also perfect for someone who wants to roleplay a relatively benign regime.

The guy who cuts consumer goods demand by -10% is the Crime Fighter. Who, well, fights crime well, so the populace likes the government and doesn't need as much pampering. This leaves more IC for other uses (but also mean you aren't making as much money). He also makes you reduce dissent faster at the same amount of IC because of that benefit.

All the exact information (though not discussions) can be found at the HOI2wiki.
 

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Thanks Irenicus.

I don't pay much attention to the titles of the dudes I put in charge. Never noticed the sociopath one though. That's probably because I tend to quick scan the bonus/malus lines and that's it. That sort of dude wouldn't have much use in my sorts of games, rping or not.