Heir to the Throne - New Countries
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Actually this above shows when it happened. But to be 100% fair:
Seems like 1600 was the first time they wanted to unite as a unitary state so a decision or some cores appearing after 1600 might be right? Although
Also
The late feudalism that has hit its peak at the balkans conveniently in the period of Ottoman takeover, was now coming to an end and I belive this should be the real reason to accept the idea of unitary states wanting to appear based on common culture, religion, language etc.
And I believe this supports the idea of 1600 as a date to trigger the appearence of the Romanian state idea. However I think it should trigger only if you control Moldavia, Wallachia and Transylvania. Maybe as a decision? It would otherwise appear alongside other romanian countries which would be like Greece and Byzantium co-existing.
Seems like 1600 was the first time they wanted to unite as a unitary state so a decision or some cores appearing after 1600 might be right? Although
Also
The late feudalism that has hit its peak at the balkans conveniently in the period of Ottoman takeover, was now coming to an end and I belive this should be the real reason to accept the idea of unitary states wanting to appear based on common culture, religion, language etc.
And I believe this supports the idea of 1600 as a date to trigger the appearence of the Romanian state idea. However I think it should trigger only if you control Moldavia, Wallachia and Transylvania. Maybe as a decision? It would otherwise appear alongside other romanian countries which would be like Greece and Byzantium co-existing.
I will add a form Romania decision (much like the other unifying decisions) to the first patch for HttT (whenever that will be.)
Careful. You speak heresy.
Careful. You speak heresy.
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Also, fix up romanian provinces please. Wallachia should not be called Wallachia, it should be called "Oltenia". Wallachia was the principality not the land. Split up the Silistrian province, it is stupid, it was only united under the Ottomans. Also, split the provinces of Basarabia and Modolva. They are two different things entirely. Hate seeing Modolva's capital in Basarabia.
And make Transylvania Romanian in culture. IIRC it is Hungarian currently.
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Also, fix up romanian provinces please. Wallachia should not be called Wallachia, it should be called "Oltenia". Wallachia was the principality not the land. Split up the Silistrian province, it is stupid, it was only united under the Ottomans. Also, split the provinces of Basarabia and Modolva. They are two different things entirely. Hate seeing Modolva's capital in Basarabia.
And make Transylvania Romanian in culture. IIRC it is Hungarian currently.
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Oh, no, no. I am not touching the Balkans.
o
polskaGOLA don't get too excited I can personally assure you it's not going to end well
Doomdark
My heresy is supported with evidence I'll just ask this - PLEASE don't use the contemporary romanian flag
I can personally assure you it's not going to end well Doomdark
My heresy is supported with evidence
I'll just ask this - PLEASE don't use the contemporary romanian flag
Than who is in control of touching provinces?
Pass him this map:
Edit: it seems in my last post I mixed up Oltenia and Muntenia. lol
Provinces you need to change are Modolva/Basarabia, make them seperate, and Dobrogea. Should include Cuadrilater.
Pass him this map:
Edit: it seems in my last post I mixed up Oltenia and Muntenia. lol
Provinces you need to change are Modolva/Basarabia, make them seperate, and Dobrogea. Should include Cuadrilater.
I think you should be able to unify the balkans in one uniform country! o
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I think you should be able to unify the balkans in one uniform country!
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That's right RUN
Although that idea is actually pretty historical. Many bulgarian rulers had the goal of uniting all the slav territories or in game-terms same culture group
This is the closest they got. But still the idea is there.
The problem is that nobody wanted to unite the balkans under 1 country named differently than the uniter.
Except the commies
that did unite some parts under Yugoslavia. (or in english Southslavic land)
Nationalism is an undying zombie, isn't it? Chainsaw and shotgun, please...
Hmm? Unless they are reffering to the minority Szekely population, Hungarians weren't in Transylvania.
leave my Hungary alone
the culture of those provinces is majority hungarian, for atleast until the ottoman invasion of serbia/wallachia as circa at that time were the immigrations
When hungary was funded one of the first hungarian tribes that settled was in Transylvania.
However, I am not opposing the idea to have a Romania but without a core on Transylvania (there are various ways to ceate a core onhn a province ingame anyway), or that there might be a hungarian decision to settle slavs and romanians in the kingdom for base tax big increase with the negative that the culture of the provinces change
the only thing what I wonder about is what date romanian as culture appears, ignoring the idea that they might be roman or what, the lands were since the roman era settled with proto-bulgarians, hungarians, pechengs, cumans, mongols and a lot other diferent people before the remnants got mixed up and formed the romanian culture
but as Doomdark said, lets not debate history (even if Doom said so, I have to point out that hungary is not in the balkans, and for most of the timeframe of the game hungary/polands/prussia(teutons) were considered to be part of west europe even) as it doesn't end well usually in the end
ironicly he is not even romanian, and polish people are usualy friends of the hungarians
o.o
the culture of those provinces is majority hungarian, for atleast until the ottoman invasion of serbia/wallachia as circa at that time were the immigrations
When hungary was funded one of the first hungarian tribes that settled was in Transylvania.
However, I am not opposing the idea to have a Romania but without a core on Transylvania (there are various ways to ceate a core onhn a province ingame anyway), or that there might be a hungarian decision to settle slavs and romanians in the kingdom for base tax big increase with the negative that the culture of the provinces change
the only thing what I wonder about is what date romanian as culture appears, ignoring the idea that they might be roman or what, the lands were since the roman era settled with proto-bulgarians, hungarians, pechengs, cumans, mongols and a lot other diferent people before the remnants got mixed up and formed the romanian culture
but as Doomdark said, lets not debate history (even if Doom said so, I have to point out that hungary is not in the balkans, and for most of the timeframe of the game hungary/polands/prussia(teutons) were considered to be part of west europe even) as it doesn't end well usually in the end
ironicly he is not even romanian, and polish people are usualy friends of the hungarians
o.o
Ok. He says something without giving proof. And then Herbert slams him and you jorian not only build on that but proceed to say again a generalization claim "polish people are usualy friends of the hungarians"
What I'm trying to say is that instead of telling him "back up what you say" you are doing this. You are not trying to solve but you are escalating the problem. Think about it.
are there more playabliity with native americans and are there easier and harder paths to westernization and or modernisation
Any link to Wikipedia would do.
Transylvania's nobility and rich were Hungarians, Germans and Szekely tradionally, The population was divided obviously, with Romanians being the most numerios.
And what does me being Polish have to do with this?
This i hate, people just lump as with Eastern Europeans like Russians just because we are slavic, (Or in your case, culturally western slavic like us) or because of the cold war. The Cold war is over andwe should be called our old definition again, Central Europeans.
Another mistake of PI is putting us in Eastern tech group for some reason. We should be in latin tech group. Although IIRC they said it's because of game balance or something.
Transylvania's nobility and rich were Hungarians, Germans and Szekely tradionally, The population was divided obviously, with Romanians being the most numerios.
And what does me being Polish have to do with this?
This i hate, people just lump as with Eastern Europeans like Russians just because we are slavic, (Or in your case, culturally western slavic like us) or because of the cold war. The Cold war is over andwe should be called our old definition again, Central Europeans.
Another mistake of PI is putting us in Eastern tech group for some reason. We should be in latin tech group. Although IIRC they said it's because of game balance or something.
I suppose Jerusalem can only be formed when you release nation/create vassals? but since Judea is Muslim it would be a Muslim state wouldn't it?
Oh, also the Pope can form ITA as the Kingdom of God
Is this a joke, or you can now form papal Italy?