Instead of being drawn to the beautiful lines of japanese ships wouldnt having more ships than you could possible count be a tempting offer?
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what pacific? we'll dump so many ships into the ocean that we can walk an army from Los Angeles to Tokyo.
It'll be like a hydra. Cut off one battlefleet and two more shall take its place
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what pacific? we'll dump so many ships into the ocean that we can walk an army from Los Angeles to Tokyo.
It'll be like a hydra. Cut off one battlefleet and two more shall take its place
Hmmm...
Sounds like an exaggeration to me...
Probably just Seattle.
LOL this was funnyCut off one battlefleet and two more shall take its place
i appreciate your effort on laughing known that you'll loose
good spirit sir
and you think of sinking our ships ? with what ? with sticks ?
damn by the time you reach your harbors they will be long gone friend.
your ships sit at the bottom of the ocean
bow to the MIGHT IMPERIAL NAVY
long live the Emperor
the sun rises on the pacific
Maybe the
british nation and the Sovjet Union can fight together against the germans and his alliesBut us Soviet Generals learn fast! Soon we shall be knocking on the lair of the Fascist beast and the Fuhrerbunker will host free live concerts of Downfall!
Super pumped for this, might be an issue being Australian, but I think my Monday mornings can survive this.
Where is my glorious heroic leader? I see he has been put down but I haven't seen a hair of him on the thread. We cannot hope to win without him!
But us Soviet Generals learn fast! Soon we shall be knocking on the lair of the Fascist beast and the Fuhrerbunker will host free live concerts of Downfall!
Super pumped for this, might be an issue being Australian, but I think my Monday mornings can survive this.
Where is my glorious heroic leader? I see he has been put down but I haven't seen a hair of him on the thread. We cannot hope to win without him!
Comrad, I'm looking toward a wonderful soviet-german-friendship
Aren't we all comrades in our heart? ^^And your leader... don't know, he signed in, but I miss him, too :/
And we need more germans, guys! Es ist Zeit für das dritte Reich!
Germany hasen't even done anything and you want to break out a war!
World, see the british agression! Nations of the world: Unite for freedom!
Im here
I just waited to see how the thread evolves and waited on more people to join in.In the meantime I have some plans how the leadership of the Soviet Union is to be assigned (Which I will post not now but soon
)Comrad, I'm looking toward a wonderful soviet-german-friendship
We could see about it, Germany is not the imperialist nation it used to be however I will not tell you the whole policy of the Soviet Union openly and if you are asking for a diplomatic agreement you can send me a PM.
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Another heroic addition to our glorious nation! There's a bottle of Vodka waiting for us in Berlin!
We sould love to share a bottle of Vodka with the Soviets, but only if they are willing to partake in Sake!
We would be pleased to, provided we sit down to have a heart to heart chat regarding this Nomonhan business.
Here is my suggestion for positions of the Soviet Union:
Technical Specialist: The technical specialist control all research (including doctrines), control the assignment of tech teams, control all production as well as designing all models.
Chief of the army: This position control the creation of new divisions, control the makeup of division templates and control the assignment of all ministers of the army (but not for air and naval forces).
Chief of the navy and airforce: This position control the airforce and the navy as well as the assignment of air and naval force ministers.
Foreign and intelligence minister: This position handle most diplomatic actions as well as all espionage actions.
Leader: This postion controls everything in the goverment position (laws and certain ministers) and work together with the foreign minister to make diplomatic agreement. The leader also chose national focuses. The leader can also do the things the other ministers can but that ability should not be used often and then used it will mainly be to mess up stuff
Everything else such as making battleplans are controlled by all ministers in some way (maybe a few generals per player).
All ministers are expected to write down what they do, try to write so it feels somewhat real like the technical minister could for example write the specification of the equipment. Don't try to play as effective as possible, try to play in a way that make a good story. If you feel you got the wrong position and wan't to change in mid game we can most likely write a story how the change happened so don't worry
This should make Soviet union an bureaucratic nation that is not particularly effective (but then it is about role playing).
If you have any suggestion fell free to post them
Technical Specialist: The technical specialist control all research (including doctrines), control the assignment of tech teams, control all production as well as designing all models.
Chief of the army: This position control the creation of new divisions, control the makeup of division templates and control the assignment of all ministers of the army (but not for air and naval forces).
Chief of the navy and airforce: This position control the airforce and the navy as well as the assignment of air and naval force ministers.
Foreign and intelligence minister: This position handle most diplomatic actions as well as all espionage actions.
Leader: This postion controls everything in the goverment position (laws and certain ministers) and work together with the foreign minister to make diplomatic agreement. The leader also chose national focuses. The leader can also do the things the other ministers can but that ability should not be used often and then used it will mainly be to mess up stuff
Everything else such as making battleplans are controlled by all ministers in some way (maybe a few generals per player).
All ministers are expected to write down what they do, try to write so it feels somewhat real like the technical minister could for example write the specification of the equipment. Don't try to play as effective as possible, try to play in a way that make a good story. If you feel you got the wrong position and wan't to change in mid game we can most likely write a story how the change happened so don't worry
This should make Soviet union an bureaucratic nation that is not particularly effective (but then it is about role playing).
If you have any suggestion fell free to post them
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Still wanna play? Maybe take a major, but if it's important for you to play romania, too, it should be fine ^^
It can be good to note that my history knowledge of this period is limited, however this is about alt history
Denkt, here's an alternative, if useless and impractical, but perhaps more historical suggestion.
I think firstly that almost certainly the Soviets should be handled in exactly the same way as the other Dictatorships are, Comrade Stalin makes all the decisions, woe betide anyone who screws up or refuses (the turn over for Soviet generals could be rather high, though it'd be no fun for people playing). That said, Stalin isn't quite as incompetent as Hitler and as the war progressed, Stalin gave more and more freedom to his generals, who rewarded him with victories, whilst Hitler went the opposite way, with him taking more and more power for himself as the fighting went on and deteriorated for the Germans, exacerbating the problems they faced.
(obviously with 20/20 hindsight, the fuhrerbunker won't be quite so deranged as it was, even through roleplay, I hope...)
The way Soviet high command (or as they called it, the Stavka) was that they controlled basically everything (pretty simple) and issued directives etc, however, when there was a vital operation or defence taking place, then they'd send a Stavka representative with full powers to do whatever was neccessary (iirc) to restore the situation or else plan it to a successful conclusion. A good example of this was the early stages of the siege of Leningrad where Zhukov was sent in to restore the situation there.
The way I see a semi realistic Soviet Union working is that the various armies and fronts will all be under ai control and when a really crucial situation arises then a Stavka representative (one of us) goes in and handles everything division by division (because it's simply impossible to keep everything under control on the eastern front).
Also, there were a ton of Fronts and Armies, especially toward the end of the way, I'm imagining it so that 3 guys have command of say the Northern Front, Western (Central) Front and Southern Front, roughly similar to Army groups A, B and C for Operation Barbarossa on the German side. Then you'd have one guy at Stavka handling where everything (replacements etc) are sent and then comrade Stalin in charge.
It's not unrealistic to have Stalin handling technology as well, as well as production. He spends the war working ridiculous hours (like all the leaders) fuelled on alcohol and you find his scribble on everything related to production and technology. He famously wrote : "the Il-2 is as important to the Red Army as Bread and Air" in response to factories not reaching their production quotas. That said, the top guy might find himself overworked if that's the case. Depends how we go. Maybe we need to start preparing to fuel him on alcohol too.
No idea how to work this, but particularly later on in the war, Stalin went out of his way to promote competition between generals, though might make for a less than enjoyable experience for us players.
Sorry, this is hardly even a suggestion, but here's how it sort of worked in reality.
I also have a feeling that the Airforce was subordinated to the Red Army... but I can't confirm...
I think firstly that almost certainly the Soviets should be handled in exactly the same way as the other Dictatorships are, Comrade Stalin makes all the decisions, woe betide anyone who screws up or refuses (the turn over for Soviet generals could be rather high, though it'd be no fun for people playing). That said, Stalin isn't quite as incompetent as Hitler and as the war progressed, Stalin gave more and more freedom to his generals, who rewarded him with victories, whilst Hitler went the opposite way, with him taking more and more power for himself as the fighting went on and deteriorated for the Germans, exacerbating the problems they faced.
(obviously with 20/20 hindsight, the fuhrerbunker won't be quite so deranged as it was, even through roleplay, I hope...
)The way Soviet high command (or as they called it, the Stavka) was that they controlled basically everything (pretty simple) and issued directives etc, however, when there was a vital operation or defence taking place, then they'd send a Stavka representative with full powers to do whatever was neccessary (iirc) to restore the situation or else plan it to a successful conclusion. A good example of this was the early stages of the siege of Leningrad where Zhukov was sent in to restore the situation there.
The way I see a semi realistic Soviet Union working is that the various armies and fronts will all be under ai control and when a really crucial situation arises then a Stavka representative (one of us) goes in and handles everything division by division (because it's simply impossible to keep everything under control on the eastern front).
Also, there were a ton of Fronts and Armies, especially toward the end of the way, I'm imagining it so that 3 guys have command of say the Northern Front, Western (Central) Front and Southern Front, roughly similar to Army groups A, B and C for Operation Barbarossa on the German side. Then you'd have one guy at Stavka handling where everything (replacements etc) are sent and then comrade Stalin in charge.
It's not unrealistic to have Stalin handling technology as well, as well as production. He spends the war working ridiculous hours (like all the leaders) fuelled on alcohol and you find his scribble on everything related to production and technology. He famously wrote : "the Il-2 is as important to the Red Army as Bread and Air" in response to factories not reaching their production quotas. That said, the top guy might find himself overworked if that's the case. Depends how we go. Maybe we need to start preparing to fuel him on alcohol too.
No idea how to work this, but particularly later on in the war, Stalin went out of his way to promote competition between generals, though might make for a less than enjoyable experience for us players.
Sorry, this is hardly even a suggestion, but here's how it sort of worked in reality.
I also have a feeling that the Airforce was subordinated to the Red Army... but I can't confirm...
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