Hearts of Iron IV Announced - Victory at all costs

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KostasL

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Whats the point of a sequel without changes?

If you consider HoI4 a sequel to HoI3...then it needs a lot of changes!!!

At first there was the godsent HoI, then HoI2 came and it was really what we expected. A new and improved HoI.
HoI2 was backed up with a few successful expansions...Then HoI3 came and ended this superb series! You should really choose a different name !

Fortunately AoD came and the order was restored. AoD is what HoI3 should be...The newest improved version of the best grand strategy WW2 game !

So, I expect a better game in the HoI tradition...That shall be the successor to the WW2 Grand Strategy Throne!

And most of all i expect you to keep it mod-friendly like all previous HoI games and why not give even more power to the modders !!!
A sophisticated editor won't hurt us either!!! ;)

Looking forward to HoI4 !!!
 

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A sophisticated editor won't hurt us either!!! ;)

Looking forward to HoI4 !!!

Oh yeah.........just were you click on the world map on a province and edit everything directly...*dreaming*
I think the cgm thing was a good start or base for a good editor
 

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Better multicore support and AI that isn't ridiculously bad would make this a guaranteed buy for me. In HOI3 all the AI was capable of doing was fighting a land battle on one front. Even then it was barely competent. Once you opened up multiple theaters the AI would spaz out. Conquering the Soviet Union actually made Germany WEAKER in HOI3 as they would just garrison all of their forces on the Soviet border leaving no resistance for the Western Allies. Then you have the awful naval and invasion AI. There wasn't even a Pacific War to fight. I'm going to hold out hope for now.
 

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Really hope you incorporate many features from DIG and BLACK ICE.

Also give us the freedom to give provinces to allies. Example: When I am taking Soviet land, would like to give some provinces to Romania and Finland. Provinces that they have a claim on.

The sea and air battles/units needs to be worked. Really couldn't figure out how many Air fighter units to put in one group. I always put 3 in a group, but it was a little confusing. Same to say about bombers and ground support. Sea units, I really like the "Capital Ship" thing you guys did, as I always hunt for the capital ships from France and England to sink them, but the battles I feel can be improved.

Let me say again: please incorporate DIG and BLACK ICE features, really enjoyed those Mods

Really looking forward to this!! Long Live the BLUE DIVISION!
 

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Will this have steam workshop? Hopefully this will attract people who haven't tried grand strategy (like eu4 did) so there will be more modders.
 

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Three requests -

1) Make it stable, reliable, work on all platforms. I still after all this time cannot get Their Finest Hour to launch on my desktop PC after numerous re-installs, codec downloads, etc. Absolutely ridiculous. I simply don't have time to 'make' a product work on my standard Win7 PC. I was a huge HOI3 fan until TFH was launched.
2) Multiplayer including 'hot join' should be a focus. HOI3 was amazingly fun for multiplayer games, and we had/have a long-standing group who used to get together 2-3x per week to play HOI3. That is a huge credit to the development team and Paradox....however, multiplayer needs to work seamlessly, easily, and conveniently.
3) Supply, including lend-lease, transport (i.e. supply routes), staging, and major sources should be modeled, and clearly outlined how it works so players have (if they want to) deal with it as a constraint. I do think HOI3 treid to do this fairly well in most cases with a simplified system. Recommend an 'easy' supply mode, and 'advanced' - so players can play as realistically as they want.

Other than that I wish the Paradox team the best of luck - I still occasionally play HOI3 FTM from time to time.

Cheers.
 

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any idea if alpha / beta testers will be add'd anytime soon? or if they are already possibly ongoing as we speak. I know probably everyone looking forward to this would want to apply if possible, I myself love playing as minors more for the challenge then anything else.

-Romian
 

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Make less provinces,but make them in nice shape,not those bulbs from hoi3.Get AI to follow war plans,make it possible to win scenario,got tired of those never-ending campaigns.And make it possible to annex nation,i hate those lines on the map...
 

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Forum members demands:

1) Make sure its released finished, not in beta stage. If in beta, then please release updates asap, like every week.

2) I concur with Dejson, no bulb like shaped countries and please make the map geographically accurate map with accurate borders per country. Also, actual pictures of all countries capitols. I don't like seeing a picture of a pasture or field if I click on Tokyo, Manila etc.

3) Please make sure that the whole HQ "Auto pilot" system works this time. Its no good telling your HQ to be on the offensive and all it does is sit and wait.

4) After this HoI version, please make/bring back East vs West. If possible, a modern day scenario after that.

OMG, not another WW2 game. :blink::angry:

(My own opinion, not to be considered offensive)
 
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Get someone with OCD to look at the splitting of the provinces. Then you will have some neat and good shapes. Those blobs in the game and some splits like Meiringen and Airolo just made the game, look ugly. I wanted to give back Italy italian parts of the swiss but instead almost puked on the screen....

the number of provinces in the territories of russia is too damn high while the amout of provinces in south america(possible theatre with Argentina and some other countries fightin on nazi side and brasilians fighting with american help against them. The number of islands was too damn high too. I know they exist. I know they were some times important but why do all does island chains have such bad provinces. the islands in front of croation would be best of as 2 provinces. northern and southern islands. While I have also seen 2 islands being 2 provinces where nobody cares (just went there because I used the random civs mod and wanted to fix some of the borders)... island hopping in the pacific is a big problem too and I really hope for some kind of modern day or kaiserreich DLC! I would pay full price for that!
 

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I officially hate you all at Paradox! (in a good way) you're seriously going to keep me waiting until q1 2015 for this game???? Didn't you make me suffer enough with CKII?? You will be the death of me... I seriously intend to tell my wife to sue you all if I die due to all this suffering you're putting me through :p
 

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Definitely will be much better if it has a better AI in this one. Just kind of gets depressing sometimes on HoiIII like when I'm waiting forever to land troops in Norway or the UK for example and finally I decide to do it manually. Will be looking forward to seeing how this one does it.
 

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I'm looking forward to how this expands and develops.
Also i still for some reason play HoI DH, i mean like i have over 100 hours, just like CK2 and EU4.
God KaiserReich is one of the best mods.
 

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To add my 2 cents into this mix:

Been playing HOI to HOI3 on and off the past 10 years, yes 10 years counting. I love the WW2 era mainly due to the fact my grandparents lived through both German and Russian occupation and my grandfather had to escape being captured in Poland due to his military background. That said HOI has been fun and very frustrating at times over the whole series.

Now what I think should be included (I know the eyebrows will raise) would be something similar to how Gary Grigsby did with his Grand Strategy series like Uncommon Valor, War in the Pacific, etc. Yes its not for the faint of heart but it truly reflects the headaches of how to get your juggernaut military to gel. Yes it is immensely in depth, but isn't that the point? I mean this HOI3 is nothing more then graphical hoopla and fluff that in my opinion makes no sense. I don't need the sprites and people should learn how to read a symbol (is it that hard? really?), not having to micro manage some things by letting AI do all the work is pointless, (gee I just turn this on and walk away, really? What is the point in that?). Please do not turn this into a kiddy game I am sick of the graphical fanboy crap, make the game what it should be GRAND STRATEGY! That's what you call this game so make it that way without the fluff. I don't care if people wont buy it because it doesn't have eye-candy, I want it to have historical flare and the all inclusive what-if! Give the modders the complete ability to change the aspects of game you have locked down, heck how do you get to this stage of game development without the input from community at such minimal cost because its FREE! So many great mods, yet they could even be better if you didn't limit the scope of their abilities, you profit from this not lose, I don't see the business stance you take Paradox, I truly sad by it.

There are so many things that need changing from HOI3 its hard to list, one of my all time beefs is the map having too many provinces. Totally crazy and useless in most cases. Tech advancement is completely lame and I do mean lame. I see you are finally attempting to make production of types of vehicles interesting, yet all I see is generic rehash with a more graphical flare, sigh. It is a step in right direction but wow its been long time in making and while I wait to see if your choices pan out for the good of all. Crossing Fingers and Toes!

I prefer to keep the "General's" system you had in place regardless of how micro it made it that to me was significant for my playing HOI3, but once again you cater to the mass of whiners about how involved it is. Cough Grand Strategy, right? It is what you are promoting, is it not? Another sigh at making the game stupid simple to reach the nerd kids with no brain cells these days. While the system you have given seems okay its hardly adequate in my opinion to the gist of being historical or grand in nature.

Production system thus far looks promising, yet I fear that it will be more generic stats across the board because all you have done is change the way the old system looks to make new people buy the game. I hold my breath on this. It was quality over quantity that should have brought Germany victory over its foes yet it was meddling from one man that brought Germany to defeat. The game should represent this across the board for all nations, but I feel it will never happen.

Sea battles, sea battles, sea battles, sea battles! Yes what is this feature that has been ignored for countless years at the request of so many people that buy your game? Not saying anymore its too disheartening to even think of playing a War at SEA in HOI period. D4, you sunk my battleship!

Diplomacy is a complete joke and either should be revamped by modders work or just taken out. Since its inception in HOI2 it has been terrible completely bad piece of coding as it has been either too easy to get what you want or impossible to achieve a different outcome of history. This is just more flare at cost of game in whole imho.

Well that's all I can muster from this late hour because I am still gasping at the demise of EvW and the lack of vision on Paradox part on pulling the plug to spin off HOI4. I know business decisions have to be made but this one was a severe kick in the gonads Paradox. You want to keep your player base I would assume and attract more people to your company, pulling EvW was pulling the bottle out of the baby's mouth and letting it starve to death. Very bad indeed.

I wait to see this product in its hype come launch date if it doesn't get pushed back until late 2015.

Yes I was harsh but I am a consumer and I have right to speak my mind, yet I know most of us speak and it falls on deaf ears for the most part. :angry: