Hearts of Iron IV - 43rd Development Diary - 5th of February 2016

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Paradox HUGE mistake that you are making is that it´s not Democratic, but Liberal/liberalism. It´s a comum but horrible ideological mistake made by a lot of people comparing liberalism with democracy, since liberalism is a form of understanding that power of the state should be minimal or decreased and democracy is a understanding that power should be divided among people(should it be decreasing the state power or dividing the power of the state is a different concept discussed by the liberals and socialists.

Finally thanks, but i would appreciate the correction.
 
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Then finally I am happy to let you know that our Beta submission was approved yesterday, so we are now officially in Beta. I can't give you any release dates yet, but this is one of the last big steps to nailing one down and saying that the project is on course.

Anyway, we have been working on HOI4 for a long time so you can imagine that this feels really great, and we plan to celebrate with beers and cigars tonight as is appropriate :)

Oh, I am happy. Thank you, podcat.
 

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Paradox HUGE mistake that you are making is that it´s not Democratic, but Liberal/liberalism. It´s a comum but horrible ideological mistake made by a lot of people comparing liberalism with democracy, since liberalism is a form of understanding that power of the state should be minimal or decreased and democracy is a understanding that power should be divided among people(should it be decreasing the state power or dividing the power of the state is a different concept discussed by the liberals and socialists.

Finally thanks, but i would appreciate the correction.
I have no idea what you're talking about and I get the feeling you don't know what you're talking about either.
 
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Paradox HUGE mistake that you are making is that it´s not Democratic, but Liberal/liberalism. It´s a comum but horrible ideological mistake made by a lot of people comparing liberalism with democracy, since liberalism is a form of understanding that power of the state should be minimal or decreased and democracy is a understanding that power should be divided among people(should it be decreasing the state power or dividing the power of the state is a different concept discussed by the liberals and socialists.

Finally thanks, but i would appreciate the correction.
What you are thinking about is ideological theory. What the implementation in HOI4 is, is about abstraction from ideological practice, i.e., how does decision making works (but in the end, HOI4 is all about dictatorship, because one player makes most of the decisions for particular nation). Liberalism is kind of interesting concept, although in most cases I consider it quite dishonest(generally because it starts by refusing monarchy/aristocracy but then doesn't make obvious/honest conclusion from that - that there shouldn't be any significant inheritance allowed and any gifts even in family should be almost completely taxed). But I'm getting off-topic here - in terms of government democracy is far more accurate then liberalism.
 
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Question: Can NAPs be re-newed while they are still active? As in: I signed a NAP with someone on jan 1st 37, which means by 1938 that someone would be allowed to declare war on me, if i dont have enough troops at our mutual border. Would it be possible for me to ask that someone for another NAP in, say, oct. 37 in order to prolong the agreement?

Overall, i like the DD, but this part leaves me a bit skeptical if it is the ideal solution. I kind of like ´lex lothos´ as i call this NAP-rule since it was introduced in HoI3 and i also use it for Axis&Allies now (USSR-JAP-NAP) - but i wonder if for HoI4, NAPs should maybe not expire unless (unilaterally) canceled (which would then start an expiration-timer) and instead of making a DOW impossibe, should rather multiply the world tension caused by the DOW? But i guess wether this makes sense depends on the impact of world tension beyond a certain level...
 
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Then finally I am happy to let you know that our Beta submission was approved yesterday, so we are now officially in Beta. I can't give you any release dates yet, but this is one of the last big steps to nailing one down and saying that the project is on course.

This is awesome news. Thank you. Anticipation is over 9000 now :)
 

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I tried for the beta and was rejected :) Maybe it is for the best. It will be a surprise !
 

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Question: Can NAPs be re-newed while they are still active? As in: I signed a NAP with someone on jan 1st 37, which means by 1938 that someone would be allowed to declare war on me, if i dont have enough troops at our mutual border. Would it be possible for me to ask that someone for another NAP in, say, oct. 37 in order to prolong the agreement?

This is a really great question.

In SP, I imagine it won't matter much. (The AI would probably just say no all the time.) But in MP, I could see it being a big deal.

It calls to mind the whole Soviet NAP with the Japanese.

"No, we aren't going to renew the NAP."

"Pretty please?"

"Nope. Oh, and by the way, we're crossing the border now. LOL!"
 
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I don't know, @Secret Master, I can imagine an AI Poland leaping at the chance for an NAP with Germany in 1939 if it meant the Germans were trying to be nicer.
 

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I don't know, @Secret Master, I can imagine an AI Poland leaping at the chance for an NAP with Germany in 1939 if it meant the Germans were trying to be nicer.

Well, I think in SP that the AI will be encouraged to go the historical route. So, unless Germany has activated national focuses related to making Poland a buddy, they will instead bet on the guarantee from the UK.

If Germany has activated the relevant focuses, then we're well past a NAP and on the path to putting Poland in the Axis. (Which is fine by me; I know I'll probably do it my second game as Germany.)
 

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Well, I think in SP that the AI will be encouraged to go the historical route. So, unless Germany has activated national focuses related to making Poland a buddy, they will instead bet on the guarantee from the UK.

If Germany has activated the relevant focuses, then we're well past a NAP and on the path to putting Poland in the Axis. (Which is fine by me; I know I'll probably do it my second game as Germany.)

Would be interesting to see a German Polish Pact against the SU, send all of those Divisions equipment for the Polish AI and maybe not worry about the western border at first just launch a joint invasion of the SU and try to get Japan on your side marching in from the East.