A question: have somebody been able to defeat USA then playing as Japan?
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Hearts of Iron IV - 42nd Development Diary - 29nd of January 2016
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What makes you think that the pic was taken in 1936?
We saw a 1939 pic and a battle of Midway in the DD.
Agreed, there are like NO options at all for allying with the UK (Who are pretty much just a slightly less militarized copy of the UK). Let's remember that Japan was all in all a democracy officially until atleast 1940 but that the constant incompetence to rail in Right wing killers led to the failure of law. I am disappointed that the Hokushin Ro has been almost completely neglected as to what it actually does, how to accomplish anything with it knowing how bad Japan was in heavy industries and resources, but most of all the complete silence on sucking up indonesia and such from netherlands without ending up in conflict with the USA. Why can't Japan unite with the US against communism and facism for example? Why is this not an option? Yes I know it would make a pretty boring game since that would basically have Japan sit and do about nothing at all. Actually, never mind the last ones, but it would be nice for some more diplomatic options with the US. It has also not been discussed just how Japan is supposed to deal with the US. Spoilers*
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Click on the "show only Dev responses" on the upper right corner.
Then you will see that Podcat did a screenshot dump in response to a question about the game state in 1936.
Also, notice that all of those divisions, including the cavalry, are in the “Japan” theater. This suggests that the war in China hasn't started.
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Damn, now you are really teasing....
In HOI3 I played one game as Germany and one as USSR. I quit both of them after 10 minutes. Then I revert back to my empire.
For the glory of Japan!
In HOI3 I played one game as Germany and one as USSR. I quit both of them after 10 minutes. Then I revert back to my empire.
For the glory of Japan!
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I wish there was a "Candy" Option which allows me to bribe the US to stay out of my lawn >.< Curse you, Americans. (Were going to lose the war anyways once the Commies use Land reform and swarm the Countryside with peasants, but still, Curse you )
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So if China refuses the Chinese border incident event, what territory does Japan get? Beiping and Tianjin?
How long can China keep refusing war with Japan, what do they lose, or can they only do this once?
If they refuse does Chaing Kai Shek get removed as leader.
Does this mean Japan can start war with China 70 days after the game starts?
How long can China keep refusing war with Japan, what do they lose, or can they only do this once?
If they refuse does Chaing Kai Shek get removed as leader.
Does this mean Japan can start war with China 70 days after the game starts?
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THIS.
I really hate it when Devs don't learn their history, now I might be jumping to conclusions, but as I understood it, anything after Xi'an was basically unacceptable for Chiang Kai Shek to concede. If he has to make the choice of conceding more territoty AKA Beiping or Beijing, then his political career is basically screwed. How do we simply "Puppet" China without even going to war with it? I don't get it.
Also, is it possible to start the war immediately if you say focus on just the Marco polo idea?
I might just be raging cus I had huge expectations on Japan. While they were probably boastful, I still wish there were more options for China to start the war, like Inciting Li Zongren to fight Chian Kai Shek and then assist him in taking over China. Then you could fight Li for control over all of china rather than just puppet him. Maybe no of these options would be possibly to credibly depict, atleast not atm, but I really want to understand what decision was made when the option for Chian Kai Shek to actually surrender more land is available. The only reason (And now I am being generous) for him to accept succeeding more land, is if he was positive he wouldn't have a serious backlash at home for doing so and instead choose to make some more stable peace with Japan to sort out their differences?
Or perhaps the Puppet thing simply means you make a deal with chiang kai shek and get some territory that you puppet but do not invade China. That might be ok I guess, but I am still confused what the whole Deal with the Warlords come into the picture, anyways, I am just venting some of my pented frustration cus I wanted to see more awesome intrigues since I am a sucker for that. Didn't mean to hate on anyone, I am sure the game will be great.
But why the Indian National Army and Improved National Spirit? The latter I have no idea what it means, but I am guessing somewhere along the lines of ASEAN COSPHERE, still think it is confusing that you can go for those, or atleast the Indian INDIAN before taking care of indochina and SIAM, but hey, free country, right?
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Looks good! There has been some improvement on the naming of naval vessels from the last time we saw, so that is nice. A6M2-N needs to be fixed though, as other people have mentioned. "N" is the IJNAS designation for "seaplane." Therefore, it is literally A (carrier fighter) 6 (version 6) M (designed by Mitsubishi) 2 (variant 2) -N (design converted to a seaplane). Same deal with the N1K2-J. It was a seaplane fighter (N) converted to a land-based one (-J).
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Gah! They are all army planes! Where is the Zero?enjoy stats
enjoy arguing what planes would fit better
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It will be probably be the carrier variant of the Ki-27.
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Well from WWW we know, that it is like that for GB
Gladiator --> Nimrod
Swordfish --> Shark (Okay both were used on carriers in real life.)
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I'm curious what dealing with the warlords does.
I think you need to depose of Chiang Kai Shek and the KMT power structure before you can start to deal with specific members of KMT government.
Can I deal only with the non Russian, Soviet leaders? When Stalin is still in charge. I'm confused.
Also what does the puppet choice do? Not go to war but China becomes a Japanese puppet? So confused.
I think you need to depose of Chiang Kai Shek and the KMT power structure before you can start to deal with specific members of KMT government.
Can I deal only with the non Russian, Soviet leaders? When Stalin is still in charge. I'm confused.
Also what does the puppet choice do? Not go to war but China becomes a Japanese puppet? So confused.
I'm a bit surprised Japan has no options to align with the Allies or the US or USSR instead of Germany. Though I guess thats what the Puppet Route is about.
I wish they would adress this since it seems very vital to how the game will progress, but I won't cross my fingers on it being answered. Believe me though, I really want to know myself.
As I understand it, the NANSHIN RO or Strike south will probably focus on taking care of UK Netherlands and of course, the US. The way I see it, aslong as you don't do NANSHIN RO then the war with the US can be avoided. Having said that, it makes the Indian National army and Improved National spirit a tricky questions because it doesn't say whether these lead to direct conflict with the West or not or simply just hurts the West without directly fighting them. I really wish we could see what each of them do, but again, from what I can tell only the NANSHIN RO will be direct action against the US. It feels really vague as the HOKUSHIN RO since you can get rubber from Indochina and this synthetic oil from your industries. Who knows, maybe American AI chooses to fight Japan directly and lead to war anyways, who knows. Also, what the hell is synthetic oil? From what I can tell it is pretty much just normal oil without the crude materials, but that costs significantly more, hench the rise in need of time to develop that focus. It might work and prevent an AGGRESSIVE conflict with the US, but again, it will take time, time Japan might not have, then again if Japan decides to be more nice and choose to not actively pick enemies left and right, it might work out in the long run; maybe not as fun as a ORTHODOX game, but definitely a more realistic one. (LOL realism.)