Hearts of Iron IV - 37th Development Diary - 11th of December 2015

[novapaddy]

Well the last time I played hoi3, it was in Semper Fi and this was the one thing that pissed me off back then.
I could of course be wrong in my memory, but how can that be... LOL

I would be delighted if the hoi4 aircraft carrier behaved like a real life aircraft carrier and so too with the planes. Cheers

 

[Secret Master]

You know this how? I wasn't aware that they posted the numbers on how long the yearly delays will be etc. Isn't this just a guess on your part?

I think he is just being silly in response to my silly post. It's the SDF-1 being compared to 1944 carrier techs, after all.

 

[mdw1985]

Very very nice DD!!! Customizing my carriers is one of the things i very wished for. But I am wondering, why Japan starts so weak with only 15 military factories and 10 dockyards...

 

[safe-keeper]

You get to choose exactly what types of planes to put on your carrier? That's pretty incredible.

 

[Giovanni1234]

7 years for a cv... no thanks, i will spam DD like hoi 3

 

[mdw1985]

You get to choose exactly what types of planes to put on your carrier? That's pretty incredible.

That's an awesome feature! You can have special carriers for each task. Really really cool!!!

 

[Oakfan]

7 years for a cv... no thanks, i will spam DD like hoi 3

.........thats with one Dockyard. The more factories/dockyards you add to a project, the faster the output. Look at the other carriers and the amount of dockyards assigned.

 

[mdw1985]

.........thats with one Dockyard. The more factories/dockyards you add to a project, the faster the output. Look at the other carriers and the amount of dockyards assigned.

Exactly! Cool thing is, that Japan starts with more resources than i thought. They really lack only aluminium and oil, but have plenty chromium and tungsten...

 

[Johnniemomomo]

I'm wondering how this ties in with the new supply system. Do carriers get launched and sail with full complements of aircraft and never run out so long as you have aircraft in reserve?

 

[Giovanni1234]

.........thats with one Dockyard. The more factories/dockyards you add to a project, the faster the output. Look at the other carriers and the amount of dockyards assigned.

ofc but you know.. Germany lost because they didn't mass-product like URSS and USA..

 

[Heatth]

Exactly! Cool thing is, that Japan starts with more resources than i thought. They really lack only aluminium and oil, but have plenty chromium and tungsten...

No rubber either. Don't you need those for planes? Even in a Naval focus, Japan will need some rubber to compete with the US.

 

[Daelyn75]

The Lexington could hold 90 aircraft. What is this 30 aircraft thing?

 

[blue_yonder]

... it's a normal thing that carrier based ones are a bit less efficient than land based ones : their design is forced to fit the needs of these aircrafts use. Some little sacrifices/orientations are made in the design.

I'd be interested to know a little more about this - not anal detail about real-life planes, but an estimate of what the in-game difference might be. Unless there is a worthwhile disincentive of some kind, it makes sense to have dogs which can bark and wag their tails, as opposed to only bark. So, if a carrier-based fighter dogfights with a land one, model and variants all identical, what percentage edge should apply?

 

[takedown47]

I love how in the screenshot you can still build carriers with no oil.

 

[Oakfan]

The Lexington could hold 90 aircraft. What is this 30 aircraft thing?

On top of increasing deckspace, newer model have increased deskspace from the start.

I assume that the Deck space will increase more by new ship design than by increaseing the deck space on the model you already have.

I assume that 30 a/c is for an early carrier and something like the Essex class will be near 90??

yep.

 

[Daelyn75]

On top of increasing deckspace, newer model have increased deskspace from the start.

Yes, I read those dev responses. They've made the Lexington a carrier one, well I suppose so because they have to go by approximate time the carriers were manufactured. However, I think that if they are going that way, then they should make them a variant to start with, with higher deck space to accommodate the historical number of aircraft that the carriers could hold.

 

[Traks]

Worth pointing out that the actual Zuiho class aircraft carrier for Japan did only carry a compliment of 30 aircraft.

But you as a chief researcher may decide to ignore this decision and finance Zuiho type with 50 or even 60 aircraft, and maybe even order modern Ki-45 aircrafts instead of only Zero models.

 

[Traks]

This did not happen in HoI3. Never.

It happened if carriers in combat were sunk, and never under any other circumstances.

 

[Will Steel]

This is very nice. But, can we decide what aircrafts to put into the carrier?

Take for example - I am Japan and I have a carrier who can hold 20 fighters. I have Mitsubishi A6M Zero, but I also have some other variant naval fighter lend-leased from an ally. Can I put 15 Zeros and 5 of that other aircraft on the carrier, even though they are of the same class?

decksize

Please break the word up next time. I accidentally read it as the word used to refer to length of the male organ.

 

[CaptRobau]

It's more that there's a marked difference between the Zuiho, which was a light aircraft carrier, and the Yorktown which was a fleet carrier. Had they differentiated between the two types they wouldn't have been forced to settle for a middle ground in terms of aircraft.