Hearts of iron 4 wrongs

[dasreich]

There are some mistakes that must be corrected in the vote.
The number of soldiers is wrong. For example, even if we take over all of Europe with Germany, in 1941, we have about 3,000,000 soldiers. But in reality only 3,500,000 troops were stationed for barbarossa in 1941. Or Russian has 6,000,000 troops. This is wrong. The Russians must have more than 10.000.000 soldiers in the war.

 

[amalric de g.]

Before you post such "facts" and demand a change, first it´s a game so your numbers didn´t matter. Second your numbers are wrong irl. You as the guiding spirit of a nation, say SOV decide how many Divisions you field, you don´t have to stick with the historical numbers, so why should the AI stick to them?

 

[Stenen Jan]

This has always been the case in HoI. For performance or balancing reasons you just have to accept that HoI WW2 will likely be fought with fewer men on the battlefields. For me - and I imagine most players - this isn't an issue at all.

 

[Shatter12]

iirc most things, production items, etc. Make up multiple of one product. Someone did a test with the USA a while back, and even they couldn't hit the goals for plane production even with literally all military factories on planes and trading for all resources.
TL;DR 1 hearts of iron 4 "item" (gun, plane, tank, etc.) Makes up multiple "items" in real life.

 

[tazaaron]

HOI has never portrayed the men and women in the rear, just combat units. So if you take the 3 men in the rear for every 1 in a combat unit the numbers are correct.

And 3 is being generous, there could be as many as 8 for every man in a combat unit so in this case there would be to many.

 

[Fulmen]

Indeed like @tazaaron said, rear area formations are mostly unrepresented.

 

[spartansociety]

I think this is the first post I have read on here where basically everyone has agreed.

 

[Alex_brunius]

There are some mistakes that must be corrected in the vote.
The number of soldiers is wrong. For example, even if we take over all of Europe with Germany, in 1941, we have about 3,000,000 soldiers. But in reality only 3,500,000 troops were stationed for barbarossa in 1941.

You can get way more manpower then that...

I didn't take Portugal, Italy, UK or Ireland in this screenshot ( so not quite "all of Europe" ), but still get over 11 million total manpower as Germany:

 

[kettyo]

You can get way more manpower then that...

I didn't take Portugal, Italy, UK or Ireland in this screenshot ( so not quite "all of Europe" ), but still get over 11 million total manpower as Germany:

What are those two things "Volkssturm" and "non-discriminatory conscription"? I guess it's not part of the base game.

 

[Alex_brunius]

What are those two things "Volkssturm" and "non-discriminatory conscription"? I guess it's not part of the base game.

Very much part of the base game. Both are in the mobile warfare doctrine.

 

[kettyo]

Very much part of the base game. Both are in the mobile warfare doctrine.

Thanks. Maybe never went so far in the doctrine.

 

[LiberiusX]

Thanks. Maybe never went so far in the doctrine.

It's on the bottom left side of the mobile warfare tree. I never take it, but that doesn't mean anything.