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I think there should be ways to speed up westernising - at the cost of raising militancy and consciousness. Or maybe some way to direct your aristocrats to be less reactionary.
 

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YEAAAAAH! 16th April, here we come! :D

I was a bit worried when this was delayed, but happy that it would come with so many amazing features, it feels like we will have to learn Victoria II all over again.

Regarding the questions about the GG players, they confirmed in previous threads that they will release a GG version as well. Only future releases (base games, I mean) are going to be Steam only. If you have any other game that was released in GG back then (like HOI3), Paradox will release any future expansions on GG as well.
 

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Does the Capitalist AI know enough to take advantage of the factory bonuses for related good? Or are they still going to just put up whatever, wherever they please?

Also, has anything been done to prevent the industrial crash whenever you load a save game?
 

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So until now making factories that consume the resources made in that province had no advantage whatsoever? Because that's always how I made my factories, it seemed logic... now I feel robbed of the time I spent deciding on what would be the best factory for each province :( Oh well... Hopefully capitalists will know to take the resources produced into account when choosing factory types. Also can capitalists decide not to build a factory if certain conditions are not met in a province? Like in my current game the Lesser Antilles has a grand total of 3 craftsmen, but this doesn't dissuade capitalists from building factory after factory that invariably gets shutdown.

Regardless, this expansion seems really amazing, good work PDS!

Yea....I've been doing that all this time too, lol. I genuinely thought it made a difference, so you're not alone.

I like but......ports in every province. All ports look the same :|
 

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There's 1 thing i request for the next patch: Something to indicate which raw material is being produced by a state in Factories tab.
It's more convenient knowing that Lowlands is producing coal just by looking at the state in Factories tab so i can build a steel factory right there without checking it through the tooltips or the map.
 

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YEAAAAAH! 16th April, here we come! :D

I was a bit worried when this was delayed, but happy that it would come with so many amazing features, it feels like we will have to learn Victoria II all over again.

Regarding the questions about the GG players, they confirmed in previous threads that they will release a GG version as well. Only future releases (base games, I mean) are going to be Steam only. If you have any other game that was released in GG back then (like HOI3), Paradox will release any future expansions on GG as well.

I always thought that GG was a subsidiary of Paradox. Quite surprising to find that future base games will only be Steam. While I do use Steam for certain games when there is no other option, GG has always been my favorite since it is less restrictive and invasive than Steam. Anyone having tried running a game without internet on Steam when you haven't yet set it up as an offline game? The day my internet was gone I wasn't able to play anything Steam despite trying to change it to offline mode in the settings. Well, well, GG you will be missed sorely.
 

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I always thought that GG was a subsidiary of Paradox. Quite surprising to find that future base games will only be Steam. While I do use Steam for certain games when there is no other option, GG has always been my favorite since it is less restrictive and invasive than Steam. Anyone having tried running a game without internet on Steam when you haven't yet set it up as an offline game? The day my internet was gone I wasn't able to play anything Steam despite trying to change it to offline mode in the settings. Well, well, GG you will be missed sorely.

GG used to be Paradox's subsidiary, but gained independence last year. As far as the Steam-only policy in new games there are a few reasons for that: mainly the new DLC system and Steam's popularity as a platform. In old Paradox games each player had to have exactly the same version for there to be a proper multiplayer session, moreover one could not miss out on an expansion if one wanted the benefits of the next. There were also problems with Steam versions installing and running ALL the expansions no matter which one the player wanted to play.

So for CK2 Paradox decided to change the business model a bit and now you get major changes included in free patches with a DLC model for additional content, that is included in every game, but unlocked for those who are willing to play them only - meaning that now everyone has the same version of the game no matter what DLC they chose to buy and run, so all versions are intercompatible.

When that was announced, there was an outrage of fans not willing to go to Steam for precisely those reasons you've mentioned. That outcry made Paradox create a second version of CK2 that runs DLC via the GG store and is independent from Stem.

The problem was, it didn't sell.

For all the outrage and boycotting, pledges and petitions that happened, not enough people were actually willing to buy the non-Steam version for Paradox to profit from it. Meanwhile Steam titles sold through the roof.

So while I too would wish Steam was avoidable, I fully understand why Paradox chose to change the way of doing business, and I will continue to support them as long as they provide quality entertainment.
 

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A puppet is the general term for satellite/dominion. Dominions are colonies/overseas while satellites are not?

I made France a dominion once as the German Empire..

EDIT: Actually, it may have been a satellite, but I'm quite sure i was dominion.
 

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GG used to be Paradox's subsidiary, but gained independence last year. As far as the Steam-only policy in new games there are a few reasons for that: mainly the new DLC system and Steam's popularity as a platform. In old Paradox games each player had to have exactly the same version for there to be a proper multiplayer session, moreover one could not miss out on an expansion if one wanted the benefits of the next. There were also problems with Steam versions installing and running ALL the expansions no matter which one the player wanted to play.

So for CK2 Paradox decided to change the business model a bit and now you get major changes included in free patches with a DLC model for additional content, that is included in every game, but unlocked for those who are willing to play them only - meaning that now everyone has the same version of the game no matter what DLC they chose to buy and run, so all versions are intercompatible.

When that was announced, there was an outrage of fans not willing to go to Steam for precisely those reasons you've mentioned. That outcry made Paradox create a second version of CK2 that runs DLC via the GG store and is independent from Stem.

The problem was, it didn't sell.

For all the outrage and boycotting, pledges and petitions that happened, not enough people were actually willing to buy the non-Steam version for Paradox to profit from it. Meanwhile Steam titles sold through the roof.

So while I too would wish Steam was avoidable, I fully understand why Paradox chose to change the way of doing business, and I will continue to support them as long as they provide quality entertainment.

I too am :mad::sad: that future games will be Steam-only, but I also understand why they're doing it. But for now, I will enjoy HoI3 and V2 from GG. I got the free EU3 on Steam, but I haven't really played it yet. I have yet to see if it's a pain to apply the beta patch to the Steam version. I hope that with future Steam-only games, it will be easy to do mods, beta patches, etc.
 

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Last time I bought something on GamersGate I got screwed over, so I'm not buying from there anymore.

I had to buy Crusader Kings II again (this time on Steam) in order to have native Linux support.
 

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Last time I bought something on GamersGate I got screwed over, so I'm not buying from there anymore.

I had to buy Crusader Kings II again (this time on Steam) in order to have native Linux support.

Oh the irony, having to use a closed DRM/platform in order to have support for an open source OS.:rolleyes:

What people seem to forget is that you're NOT buying anything from Steam, read the TOS it's pretty clear. You're RENTING a license that can be revoked at any time withour prior notice at Valve's will.
Granted I know it just doesn't happen, but still it's there...:glare:
 

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The game is proprietary software anyway, so I see no harm in using a closed platform.

Oh, and about the "renting" part, every single proprietary software works like that. What you buy is a license to use it, the software itself belongs to the copyright owner.
 
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I too am :mad::sad: that future games will be Steam-only, but I also understand why they're doing it. But for now, I will enjoy HoI3 and V2 from GG. I got the free EU3 on Steam, but I haven't really played it yet. I have yet to see if it's a pain to apply the beta patch to the Steam version. I hope that with future Steam-only games, it will be easy to do mods, beta patches, etc.

If I am not mistaken, the Paradox games don't use DRM. If applying patches/mods is, for whatever reason, hard to do on Steam, just copy the game folder to outside Steam. It will still work and applying patches/mods there should be no different than with a non-Steam game.