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Hey guys, I am a new (keyword being new :) avid addicted fan to these 4x games and wanted to know what this game is like and what it entails. I been playing a lot of space 4x games ( love distant world ) fallen enchantress and warlock and all its downloadable content, civ 5 etc. So please let me know what this game is like and how steep is the learning curve is... Thanks all...
P.S. I am tossed between this game and Europa Univer.
 

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This isn't exactly a 4X game, Grand Strategy would be more appropriate. Europa Universalis games are probably more similar to 4X games since they involve exploring and colonization, but they're still grounded in historical reality, unlike Civilization or space 4X games. Choosing between CK2 and an EU game is personal preference eally. EU is based more on expansion, trade and colonization, while CK2 is based on the feudal system and the personal relations of medieval rulers.

About EU, the latest game is EU3 however the sequel EU4 will be coming out next year, so it also depends if you're willing to hang on for the new version.
 

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One thing you need to understand is that no Paradox developed games are 4x and none of them play anything like a 4x game. Otherwise the Paradox Grand Strategy games have different focuses depending on the historical setting.
CK is about individual characters, dynasties and the feudal system of the middle ages.
EU is about nations and colonization.
Vicky is more about economics and politics as in the era democracy really started and new political ideologies were born.
HoI is all about war, and military.
 

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It's not a 4x game. Closest thing Paradox makes to a traditional 4x game would be the EU franchise, which involves exploration and colonization.

There's a good chance that a 4x fan will like Paradox games, but they are quite different in most ways. The learning curve can be steep (not Dwarf Fortress steep though) so don't be afraid to consult the forums for help.
 

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The most beginner friendly Paradox games are Europa Universalis and CK. Victoria and HoI can be overwhelming for beginners. And as other have said EU is more like 4X and CK has more ole playing element since you play an indicudal character rather than a government.
 

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Well theres no explore in this game (or this era) unless you count taking your army to Jerusalem to see the nasty Fatamid stacks. Both this and EU are on the real world map, that's part of the attraction of the series.

Between your choices, I'd probably play this as EU3 is starting to look dated. EU4 is next year.
 

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Well theres no explore in this game (or this era) unless you count taking your army to Jerusalem to see the nasty Fatamid stacks. Both this and EU are on the real world map, that's part of the attraction of the series.

Between your choices, I'd probably play this as EU3 is starting to look dated. EU4 is next year.

As someone who started playing PDS with Vicky II, I can certainly agree :p tough it is still masterable even for a newcomer.
 

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He did 7 hours after this thread as you can see in the forum on his other thread. A little silly to post a new one, but no crime afaik.