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Do you still get the spiritualist attraction if you don't activate the relic?
It’s a passive effect.

Which is weird because that makes it the only relic with a detrimental passive (if you’re not spiritualist).
 
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I thought you had to be Spiritualist to get it? I get it almost all the time, and I also always play spiritualist.
i think its so "common" because it can only spawn for a human player.

definitely not only spiritualist can get it at any rate i have gotten it as gestalts and synth ascended materialists
 
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Well, I mean if you don't have Holy Guardians FE, they won't spawn at all.

I hate those guys, so I pretty much just reroll a new map if they turn up, and I rarely get this chain/relic.
 

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While destroying it would be neat...I cannot imagine the Spiritualist FE would be all that pleased with you. At all. As it is you cut off the head of their prophet to prove you did in fact find the guy's tomb, although they're ok with that much (heavens know why), but I cannot see them taking you desecrating the grave all that well.

Maybe an option at the end of the digsite might work although. "Seal the tomb back up. We were never here, we shall not speak of this again."

Then have an event fire where the Spiritualists contact you telling you they respect your decision to not disturb his slumber and get the +opinion via an event modifier, just no Relic (so no holy worlds either, but at least they're less likely to go stomp you either)
 
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Maybe an option at the end of the digsite might work although. "Seal the tomb back up. We were never here, we shall not speak of this again."

Then have an event fire where the Spiritualists contact you telling you they respect your decision to not disturb his slumber and get the +opinion via an event modifier, just no Relic (so no holy worlds either, but at least they're less likely to go stomp you either)

They ask for the location to make it another holy world and terraform it.
They also pay you handsomely "What could be a valid price for a primitive world? Maybe a billion energy? Who cares, just give it to them."
 
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They ask for the location to make it another holy world and terraform it.
They also pay you handsomely "What could be a valid price for a rpprimitive world? maybe a billion energy? Whoc ares, jsut give it to them."
and we cry as 999950000 energy has to be shunted away from our now full capacitors
 
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I've stopped doing the dig site because it completely negates the threat of one of the awakened empires. I also get the dig site nearly every game because I have the galaxy set up to try and encourage a War in Heaven, so with 2-3 FEs, there's a high chance one of them is the spiritualist. I think it would be fine if it was an occasional dig site, but it seems to be guaranteed if the spiritualist FE is in play, which devalues the feeling of finding the relic.
 
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Sidenote, I never mind finding the head because I'm weirdo who tries to collect factions like pokemon

(its really hard to get all factions in same game :p And then avoid them being wiped out)
 
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I personally like factions too, but I can never get more than 4 or 5 per game with normal gameplay.
Getting supremacy and isolationists at same time pretty much require you to either switch governing ethics or being authotarian and then giving enslaved species residence rights.

I think authoritarian is hardest faction to get without starting with it iirc.

(hardest thing really is keeping them around beause factions get really easily wiped out especially when wars start)
 

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Wait wait wait, can we go back to the moment where everybody somehow agreed that there is an abundance of free relic worlds? Are we playing different games? I rarely ever find a relic world. And even if i find one, its because i got the precursor with the relic world. What are you doing that there are so much relic worlds?
 
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Yes i know, but still.. i cant remember having so many relic worlds in 2020. I think even since back when they where introduced, i only got like less than a hand full in my games. And never ever had i moer than one in the same game.
 
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Yes i know, but still.. i cant remember having so many relic worlds in 2020. I think even since back when they where introduced, i only got like less than a hand full in my games. And never ever had i moer than one in the same game.
When Ancient Relics came out the Alien Logs/Rubricator chain was happening basically every game, it was quite silly.

On topic, I'm really hoping the relics balance pass experiments mentioned in a dev diary pan out and the ethics attraction is changed to something else.
 

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Yes i know, but still.. i cant remember having so many relic worlds in 2020. I think even since back when they where introduced, i only got like less than a hand full in my games. And never ever had i moer than one in the same game.
They were quite common when they were first introduced. Like many features, they were showcased at first, then the devs reduced the chance of them showing up to make feel more special. Though you can still stumble across multiples. In my current DS game, I have three relic worlds. The Rubricator world, the Omnicodex world, and the Miniature Galaxy world.
 

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  • Hearts of Iron IV: Expansion Pass
  • Stellaris: Humanoids Species Pack
  • Stellaris: Apocalypse
  • Cities: Skylines - Parklife
  • Stellaris: Distant Stars
  • Shadowrun Returns
  • Shadowrun: Dragonfall
  • Battle for Bosporus
  • Cities: Skylines Industries
  • Crusader Kings III
  • Stellaris: Megacorp
  • Crusader Kings II: Holy Fury
  • Prison Architect
  • Imperator: Rome Sign Up
  • Cities: Skylines - Campus
  • Stellaris: Ancient Relics
  • BATTLETECH: Season pass
  • Stellaris: Lithoids
  • BATTLETECH: Heavy Metal
  • Prison Architect: Psych Ward
  • Hearts of Iron IV: La Resistance
  • Stellaris: Federations
  • Surviving Mars
  • Crusader Kings II: Charlemagne
  • Crusader Kings II: The Old Gods
  • Crusader Kings II: Sons of Abraham
  • Crusader Kings II: Sword of Islam
  • Cities: Skylines
  • Crusader Kings II: Way of Life
  • Pillars of Eternity
  • Cities: Skylines - After Dark
  • Crusader Kings II: Conclave
  • Cities: Skylines - Snowfall
  • Stellaris
  • Stellaris: Galaxy Edition
  • Stellaris: Galaxy Edition
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Cadet
  • Crusader Kings II: Reapers Due
  • Tyranny: Archon Edition
  • Stellaris: Digital Anniversary Edition
Ok, very intersting. I must have played less during this time and therefore never noticed it.

However: "The Rubricator world, the Omnicodex world, and the Miniature Galaxy world." Two of these i dont even know existed. I still feel like i am playing a different game xD. Or missing access to some super secret DLC money cant buy