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May 26, 2008
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Just starting play the game a couple hours ago and I'm having a problem. How do I conquer a province with my armies without getting them to cede control to me? I'm having troubles with Ager Bruttius and Tarentum. I moved my armies, defeated theirs, took out the garrison in the fort... and somehow still didn't have control of the province. How does this work? I'm new to this line of games.
 

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Just starting play the game a couple hours ago and I'm having a problem. How do I conquer a province with my armies without getting them to cede control to me? I'm having troubles with Ager Bruttius and Tarentum. I moved my armies, defeated theirs, took out the garrison in the fort... and somehow still didn't have control of the province. How does this work? I'm new to this line of games.

Switch to political map (the icon with a banner in the bottom-right corner of the screen). Is the province crossed by red lines (i suppose you are Rome)?

If so you captured it, but you need a peace treaty to gain full control on it. Click on Tarentum, then open the diplomacy screen. Select sue for peace and then demand tribute.

From there you are able to ask for your desired province (and maybe some money as well!)
 

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It should be noted here that each province is worth a certain amount of warscore, so you'll have to achieve a warscore higher than the province value to have any chance at all of getting it in a peace deal, and usually far higher to have a good chance of the AI agreeing to give you the province. For instance, if you occupy every province a country has, you get 100% warscore, but you'll only get them to agree to give up maybe 5 or so of their provinces (if they have that many).
 

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Furthermore, keep in mind that you cannot annex nations with 2 or more provinces. This means that you can only get Anger Bruttius from Magna Grecia in your current war. So, it will take another war for you to annex them and add Tarentum to your empire.
 

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battlecry said:
It should be noted here that each province is worth a certain amount of warscore, so you'll have to achieve a warscore higher than the province value to have any chance at all of getting it in a peace deal, and usually far higher to have a good chance of the AI agreeing to give you the province.
Not true. In my last war as Rome I got a 60% peace deal with a 30% war score. Before that, I got something like 40% with a 20% warscore.

The secret is, first, wipe out your enemy's army and their manpower. They'll agree to very unfavourable peace deals then.

Secondly, use someone with high charisma and +DIP character traits to present your demands. There is a random chance involved in whether the enemy will accept a deal greater than the warscore, and a good diplomat will increase that chance.

If you fail, wait a month and ask again.
 

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Not true. In my last war as Rome I got a 60% peace deal with a 30% war score. Before that, I got something like 40% with a 20% warscore.

The secret is, first, wipe out your enemy's army and their manpower. They'll agree to very unfavourable peace deals then.

Secondly, use someone with high charisma and +DIP character traits to present your demands. There is a random chance involved in whether the enemy will accept a deal greater than the warscore, and a good diplomat will increase that chance.

If you fail, wait a month and ask again.

That happened to me as well. As Rome, I'm fighting an alliance between Egypt and the Seleucid Empire. We are warrying since decades and Egypt and Seleucid Empire are always to 0 manpower. Once you destroy a couple of their big stacks the Seleucids become very reasonable.

Just to make you an example, I got Bithyinia (sp?, worth 30%) just with a 5% warscore. I sent my best diplomat and it worked.
 

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Folgore80 said:
That happened to me as well. As Rome, I'm fighting an alliance between Egypt and the Seleucid Empire. We are warrying since decades and Egypt and Seleucid Empire are always to 0 manpower. Once you destroy a couple of their big stacks the Seleucids become very reasonable.

Just to make you an example, I got Bithyinia (sp?, worth 30%) just with a 5% warscore. I sent my best diplomat and it worked.

Yes once they are low on manpower and beat a few large armies you can ask a lot more than your what your warscore display, I'm on my sixth war against the seleucids and I can consistently get provinces worth 100% warscore when my actual warscore is actually between 30 and 40%, I don't pay much mind to wich diplomat I send either, but it usually takes few tries before they accept

It seems the AI takes a lot of other factors than the warscore in peace deals, if it think it's fighting an hopeless war, it'll accept almost anything, ditto if they're in a second war and losing badly, it works the other way too, I notice that if I am in another war, it's much harder to get them to agree to a peace treaty
 

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Yeah I guess I forgot to mention that part. Sorry.
 
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This has probably been asked a million times, but is there a way to completely destroy a faction? I noticed Magna Craeca disappeared near the beginning of my first game, but I don't know why. Is it just tied into actual history?
 

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If you get them down to a single province you can annex them completely in a war.

Zenitram said:
This has probably been asked a million times, but is there a way to completely destroy a faction? I noticed Magna Craeca disappeared near the beginning of my first game, but I don't know why. Is it just tied into actual history?